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[GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330847]

Thu, 12 April 2018 02:32

BobDunahugh

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As many know. I had a new engine water pump fail on Interstate 40. That had about 1000 miles on it. The front ball bearing locked up. The pump was a ball/ball type. This Cardone Select pump is a roller/ball bearing type. Thus a roller bearing at the front to carry the belt load. Plus the 6 pump veins have the full disk attached to the back. I got it from Jim K at Applied. He said that he would have it here in Tucson today. He did that. And it's absolutely correct. Bob Dunahugh

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330848 is a reply to message #330847]

Thu, 12 April 2018 05:45

Ken Burton

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What is the diameter of the impeller?

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330850 is a reply to message #330848]

Thu, 12 April 2018 09:40

Matt Colie

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Ken Burton wrote on Thu, 12 April 2018 06:45

What is the diameter of the impeller?

Ken,
I haven't measured mine, but it is about as big as fits in the casting.
OK,
I decided to stop being lazy. I walked all the way out to the shop and across the shop to mine that is waiting to be installed.

4.250 inches with a closed back.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330853 is a reply to message #330847]

Thu, 12 April 2018 11:41

BobDunahugh

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Ken. 4.25. But the bearing type is the big deal. Bob Dunahugh

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Subject: The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H

As many know. I had a new engine water pump fail on Interstate 40. That had about 1000 miles on it. The front ball bearing locked up. The pump was a ball/ball type. This Cardone Select pump is a roller/ball bearing type. Thus a roller bearing at the front to carry the belt load. Plus the 6 pump veins have the full disk attached to the back. I got it from Jim K at Applied. He said that he would have it here in Tucson today. He did that. And it's absolutely correct. Bob Dunahugh

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330857 is a reply to message #330848]

Thu, 12 April 2018 13:19

mghamms

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Anyone know what the H means in the part number?

1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330860 is a reply to message #330857]

Thu, 12 April 2018 14:51

77Royale

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Looks like the H stands for Heavy Duty.

The part number without the H comes back as standard duty.

77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330874 is a reply to message #330850]

Thu, 12 April 2018 23:44

Ken Burton

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Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 12 April 2018 09:40

Ken Burton wrote on Thu, 12 April 2018 06:45
What is the diameter of the impeller?

Ken,
I haven't measured mine, but it is about as big as fits in the casting.
OK,
I decided to stop being lazy. I walked all the way out to the shop and across the shop to mine that is waiting to be installed.

4.250 inches with a closed back.

Matt

Excellent. I do not need one but that is what I would go after if I ever need one.
I would order one but I already have enough spares around that I'll never use.

Thanks Matt.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #330883 is a reply to message #330847]

Fri, 13 April 2018 09:34

TR 1

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So does anyone know if there are other pumps that meet the Roller/ball bearing requirement besides the Cardone Select?

The Tuff Stuff pumps were mentioned... What about Flow Kooler? Any others?

Mark S. '73 Painted Desert, Manny 1 Ton Front End, Howell Injection, Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes, Fort Worth, TX

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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #340242 is a reply to message #330847]

Tue, 22 January 2019 00:08

BobDunahugh

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I bought 2 this past year. Both were new. No core required. From Jim K at Applied. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #340279 is a reply to message #340242]

Tue, 22 January 2019 21:09

BobDunahugh

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Ken Burton made a good point about calling Applied. In the e-mail below. I to covered that in my e-mail below this morning.. I always know that when I get any GMC parts from Jim at Applied. It's the correct part. We desperately need these vendors to keep our GMC's on the road. Without them. We could end up with our GMC's as large flower pots in the front yard. Bob Dunahugh

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I bought 2 this past year. Both were new. No core required. From Jim K at Applied. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] The engine water pump to get, CARDONE Select 55-21118H [message #340298 is a reply to message #330847]

Wed, 23 January 2019 13:02

jhbridges

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For whomever asked, the H is the one with roller bearings in front. Without the H, 455 pump with ball bearings front and back. Do not forget the H.

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