[GMCnet] Transmission fluid in penetrate mixture [message #328589] |
Thu, 25 January 2018 13:30 |
emerystora
Messages: 4442 Registered: January 2004
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I’ve often wondered why people use transmission fluid for this. Transmission fluid is a kerosene base stock with corrosion inhibitors, rubber swell additives, and anti-foam additives.
The additives are not needed for a penetrating application so why not use a kerosene / acetone mixture. Much cheaper than transmission fluid.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jan 25, 2018, at 10:33 AM, John Wright wrote:
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> Bob,
> I did an actual test on the different mixes of ATF and Power Steering Fluid. See the following:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5305-loosening-rusted-bolts.html
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> Regards,
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> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLakerTech Editor
> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> 75 Avion Under Reconstruction
> Michigan (On Location in Tucson)
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>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 12:47 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
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>> Bob,
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>> Here you go:
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>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p40657-penetrating-oil-test.html
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>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Dunahugh
>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 5:38 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMCNet Portional Value.
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>> What is the value of this mix? Why? Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission fluid in penetrate mixture [message #328592 is a reply to message #328589] |
Thu, 25 January 2018 14:09 |
77Royale
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I know there are a few gas stations here that sell it at the pump. Usually 3-4 dollars a gallon. Otherwise, its home depot, lowes, menards for a 15 dollar a gallon non soot can of it. Sell it next to the kero space heaters, but I cant imagine those places in warmer climates carry them in stock.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission fluid in penetrate mixture [message #328599 is a reply to message #328592] |
Thu, 25 January 2018 18:11 |
Emery Stora
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Diesel fuel is kerosene. About any service station sells it for probably under $3.00 / gallon.
Emery Stora
> On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Wayne Rogewski wrote:
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> I know there are a few gas stations here that sell it at the pump. Usually 3-4 dollars a gallon. Otherwise, its home depot, lowes, menards for a 15
> dollar a gallon non soot can of it. Sell it next to the kero space heaters, but I cant imagine those places in warmer climates carry them in stock.
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission fluid in penetrate mixture [message #328600 is a reply to message #328589] |
Thu, 25 January 2018 18:43 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Diesel and kerosene stink. ATF is a much better lube than either I'd admire to see your result with either though.
.--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission fluid in penetrate mixture [message #328623 is a reply to message #328622] |
Fri, 26 January 2018 10:40 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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I'm thinking that changing the mix will not help. The recommended mix is Power Steering Fluid or ATF and acetone. Shake well before using. Any diesel that you do find will be #2. ATF or PSF which has been tested is closer to kerosene or #1 diesel. (Good luck finding #1) The PSF or ATF is available everywhere. You are not mixing up a lot of it. For convenience I just use Kroil or in a pinch Liquid Wrench. (I know I said incorrectly PB blaster before.)
You are not using very much of it. The thing is to get it to penetrate. So heat expansion and uneven cooling contraction will help a lot when applying whatever penetrating oil you are using.
The special vice grips are nice but you are working on getting the nut loose from the line. So be very careful and do NOT do anything more that bust the nut SLIGHTLY loose with them. Any more than that will twist and break the line off.
As I first said: patience, patience, patience.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission fluid in penetrate mixture [message #328627 is a reply to message #328625] |
Fri, 26 January 2018 11:37 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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Get a small cigarette lighter recharge container of Butane. Those torches are in the discount chinese tools bins and usually near the front door. The come 2 to a package and are in a bubble pack about 6"x8"
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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