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| Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #327255] |
Mon, 18 December 2017 11:31  |
Paige
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Needed ~ experienced GMC lover to help "check it out". I found a coach but have NO real experience with Classic GMCs. Research is good but it's no match for hands on knowledge. Area NC, Tenn, SC, Georgia border.
Bob in Lexington, NC can REALLY check all systems but I would have to buy it first. Hence..... my situation.
Paige C Covington
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330691 is a reply to message #330120] |
Sat, 07 April 2018 15:18  |
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GMC2000
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GMC2000 wrote on Sun, 18 March 2018 01:02
is the Admin reading this?
guess not..
Ive found a Coach and it looks good, plan to buy it this week then start modifications and such to suit us. I would like to start a thread here in this subforum, sort of a photo journal to share and document the 'before, during, after, and beyond' stages.
I dont care to do this in the mixed email subforum here because of how the threads quickly become a mess with email stuff and somehow multiply into other threads.
I could start a blog on this project if it pans out as expected but the interactivity of forums such as this one are perfect for these things (AKA Build threads) however, for the reasons Ive mentioned, the email subforum just doesnt suit some of us and I have no plans to use it for such a purpose.
I think a new subforum on this forum specifically for build threads would be fantastic! (if mixed in email, is not)
if I can not get any input here about this, I may do that elsewhere on another forum not specific to GMC Motorhomes but that would be a shame IMO.
perhaps I should try to establish contact with the one whos contact info is batman61@gmail.com about this and I may but Im here now and this is also just a way of testing the waters if you will.
here's to the future!
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330692 is a reply to message #330691] |
Sat, 07 April 2018 16:29 |
lqqkatjon
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I still do not understand your issue with the main forum page, but I guess because the audience is much larger so you get many opinions.
The main forum however is where the owners who have driven hundreds of thousands of miles and owned there gmc's for 30+ years are.
Generally build photos are referenced in the forum, but usually photos are stored at Www.gmcmhphotos.com.
This forum has helped thousands. There is also many that "lurk", and may not post, yet will send a private message or email or call to answer a question, or in sone cases have provided me with parts. The forum is not just a refernce it is a social base of owners willing to go out of there way to help each other out.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330693 is a reply to message #330692] |
Sat, 07 April 2018 18:09 |
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GMC2000
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hey lqqkatjon, here is a few examples of "Build Threads":
http://www.gmc4x4.com/forum/57-build-threads/
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/
http://zilvia.net/f/forumdisplay.php?f=131
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/forumdisplay.php?76-Build-Threads-33-HotRod&s=c369a79b6b91c3bbb2a5450ed1222553
one can find them for nearly every automotive forum.
It hard to describe how beneficial these threads are to each of their respective communities to those who are not familiar with how they work.
I think they (Build threads and How to threads) would have happened here own their own because its just how forums evolve and grow except for whatever the reason here, the 'GMCNet' subforum prevents this type of interaction due to the clustermuck the email integration causes in so many ways.
for instance, if one were to want to edit a quote to single out and direct a reply focused on one aspect of a post like this:
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 07 April 2018 16:29I still do not understand your issue with the main forum page,
Im trying my best to explain this now
lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 07 April 2018 16:29
but I guess because the audience is much larger so you get many opinions.
I like opinions, especially constructive ones
lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 07 April 2018 16:29
Generally build photos are referenced in the forum, but usually photos are stored at Www.gmcmhphotos.com.
I think I have seen a few photos posted on the main forum but it seems rare. perhaps it is because they dont show up in the email format, Im not sure eitherway.
lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 07 April 2018 16:29
This forum has helped thousands. There is also many that "lurk", and may not post, yet will send a private message or email or call to answer a question, or in sone cases have provided me with parts. The forum is not just a refernce it is a social base of owners willing to go out of there way to help each other out.
thats how most forums seem to work.
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add some photos to that mix and it can be so much more!
now I must also admit though, searching this forum and finding relevant info on any particular subject relating to these GMCs has been a most tedious, time consuming process and then when you do find something directly related to your inquiry, it could be so simple yet its magnified by all the email re-re-re qoutes, headers, etc., etc.. so much unnecessary clutter that it becomes more complex. pages and pages to read that would have been minimal without all that. its a task that Ive all but given up on and I havnt even gotten started on a GMC Motorhome yet.
all that doesnt have to change, but it sure would be nice to know if one or a few members on the forum and not email list could start new threads here in the sandbox without risking them being 'deleted periodically' just to see how well it goes/works.
I think the idea to combine an existing email list and the newer, evolving technology of the time, forums, was a brilliant one! but its just holding this community as a whole back now in a big way and even stunting more growth of it IMO.
I hope what Ive written here helps to show just a few of the many ways how that is.
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330694 is a reply to message #330693] |
Sat, 07 April 2018 18:45 |
tphipps
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Get someone who knows GmC's to look at the coach. In your area, I would recommend Chuck Boyd. He is an excellent mechanic guy, who has worked on many GMC's. This will cost cash, but his opinion is worth the effort. He is on the forum. Look him up under members and send him a P.M.
We are here to help you along the way.
Tom, having a good time at International, other than coach A/C just quit.
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330758 is a reply to message #330745] |
Mon, 09 April 2018 17:10 |
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Matt Colie
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GMC2000 wrote on Mon, 09 April 2018 13:53the ball is rolling on the GMC Im looking at buying!
Ive found on this page http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html it indicates this forum is a 'mirror' of the "GMCNet".
I havnt been able to find a forum for these that is strictly a forum, is there one?
also has a facebook 'group' listed but thats not a website I participate on at all.
then I went to the GMC registry http://www.gmcmhregistry.com/index.html figuring I could look up this GMC but it requires a request for info. I was expecting more, there is a statistics link on there but very little on it. I wonder if a redacted list of coaches is available with only active VINs with no other private info so folks can see how many of them and what year models and such they are? it would be interesting.
I gotta be brutally honest, this whole 'community' is seeming to be more of a private and or closed sources clique than an freely distributed, open sourced, information clearing house for what ever reason. if there is no other forums for these and the ones who administrate here have no interest in the larger picture, perhaps a new one, more suitable to new folks is needed?
Unknown Person,
There is a whole lot about this community that you have not yet realized. The group is old. It is so old that it predates modern forums. What did happen is that the old e-mail system that was on a private bulletin board for a server. That got migrated, and later, the forum overlay was put on it. That behaves just like any of the other forums I read. But, by the same token, I can (and do get) a digest to a remote mail client in the case I should miss something that is important. While and at the same time, those that want to read the traffic, but have slow connections, (some are still on a dial up service and thereby limited to about 56K) so if they were stuck with a forum interface, the thread would be closed before they could even read it. And, if I chose to, I could turn the e-mail service back on so my phone could get it and not be overloaded.
Next squawk:
Because this is an old community, it had to start out closed. All of us have had @ddresses mined and so were quickly drowned in spam. As for the available information being closed. Most of it is available to all, but some is restricted to save the band width for those that need it. All that takes to get access to all is a no-fee membership. The only advertising carried (except at the forum header) is by our committed suppliers. We are very grateful for what those people do for our community and if we can provide them this, nobody here will ever complain. Those same suppliers have pulled the very personal bunns of each and every one of us out of a fire at one time or another.
And no, you can't look up a coach by VIN on the registry. But, if you are a member of the community and you should call the gentleman that is the current keeper of said registry, he can give you what history he has on that coach. Again, it is done this way to protect the privacy of the members of the community.
Now, if you run across a coach that is available and interesting to you, come back here with what ever particulars you can collect and ask. It is a pretty good bet that someone will know that coach and be able to tell you a lot about it. At last count, there were about 8000 coaches out there and while there are only a few thousand users here, we cover a lot of ground.
Should you become a member of our community, you will find it a vast collection of helping and supportive people, and should you ever need the assistance of the community, it is an amazing thing. There are not many like this.
Oh, and yes, most of us use real names because if you are an owner, you will meet other owners and it feels real stupid to say, "Oh, that is who you are". It is more difficult to stretch out to help others you don't know than it is those you do. But both have happened here.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330764 is a reply to message #327255] |
Mon, 09 April 2018 20:29 |
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GMC2000
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Unknown Matt,
yes, data mining is serious business these days and I wont be putting my name on here for that reason, also dont use email mostly for the same. Ive noticed it has been requested of newer folks on here frequently.
curious thing happened today on the forum. I came here on a completely new computer, has never even been on this forum and when I got here I noticed that I was logged in! very 'phishy' I realize it is IP based issue but no other forum Ive ever been a part of does this.
anyway, you're welcome to call me 'friend' but 'GMC2000' might be better to avoid any confusion. anything else is just rude to say the least. why is it that new comers are expected to 'trust' others that they dont even know with personal info anyway? something doesnt feel right about that.
perhaps old dogs set in their ways and thats all it is. I would hope so but that certainly doesnt make it any less concerning.
and I really dont see why one would want to add info in a registry that they have no access to. what am I missing?
funny thing about forum meet ups! Im a founding member and moderator of more than one and when we have get togethers in real life, we dont even use names half the time and its actually pretty fun to use screen names face to face in real life FWIW
Im certainly not new school but Im not so old school I cant adapt to anything new. however, I dont adapt to anything when its forced or shoved upon me and I know Im not the only one that way.
sure would be nice to get the Admin to chime in on some new ideas here. where is the Admin anyway? thats also highly unusual.
can anyone here see any of this from an outside perspective and relate to it?
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330781 is a reply to message #330764] |
Tue, 10 April 2018 08:46 |
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Matt Colie
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If you want to be known as GMC2000, that is fine with me, but the lack of a filled in sigfile will be an inconvenience to the those in group that might choose to try to offer assistance. Without knowing who you are, what your coach is or where you are, it is a little difficult. And, yes, there is a lot of trust that happens in this community. It is great that way.
I guess that this is just a friendlier group than most that you know. But part of our problem is that it is truly international and not even just North American. We have had four flags at a convention.
The auto-log always happens with me with any of my devices because I always open the site with the same browser and they are all synced for logins.
In complete honesty, being in the registry will hopefully be of no value to you. We keep that so there is a record of where coaches are and who the current owner is. If the coach will never be lost, stolen or sold, then there is no concern at all. As is, I can call the man that has the registry and ask for the owner of any VIN I come across. This is a help if someone I know is buying a coach in a closed sale. Someone known to me may be able to supply some history that has importance. It is also nice to be able to tell a perspective supplier that there are X-many coaches still in use. There were two incidents that I was involved in. Both were sales from estates. One was picked up by an acquaintance at way less than current value because I was able to offer an informed opinion as to its true condition. Another was just the opposite. The heirs were convinced that they had valuable item that was not. I was able to advise a buyer to pull back.
It is unlikely that the moderator of anybody else will chime in. We are currently in "Sandbox" which is a section that is left open for people to try out posting and look at how the sigfile publishes. Most members never even look here, and the e-mail readers can even see it without opening the forum with a browser.
Well, I have work to do and other people to annoy.
I wish you luck and I do hope we meet at a convention/rally at some point.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #330815 is a reply to message #330781] |
Wed, 11 April 2018 05:49 |
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GMC2000
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more about the registry @ gmcmhregistry.com
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 10 April 2018 08:46
In complete honesty, being in the registry will hopefully be of no value to you. We keep that so there is a record of where coaches are and who the current owner is.
are you more than a registrant of the GMCMHregistry?
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 10 April 2018 08:46
If the coach will never be lost, stolen or sold, then there is no concern at all. As is, I can call the man that has the registry and ask for the owner of any VIN I come across. This is a help if someone I know is buying a coach in a closed sale. Someone known to me may be able to supply some history that has importance. It is also nice to be able to tell a perspective supplier that there are X-many coaches still in use. There were two incidents that I was involved in. Both were sales from estates. One was picked up by an acquaintance at way less than current value because I was able to offer an informed opinion as to its true condition. Another was just the opposite. The heirs were convinced that they had valuable item that was not. I was able to advise a buyer to pull back.
seems way too easy for this type of situation to be politically motivated. a potential influence racket even. it also conflicts with this page http://www.gmcmhregistry.com/Policy.html
where it is stated "We do not sell, trade, barter, furnish or otherwise share information."
but then, on this page http://www.gmcmhregistry.com/About.html it reads "The purpose through maintaining this registry is to locate and connect with other GMC owners and to trade anecdotes, ideas, and service or parts supplier information."
hmmm.. we are all at a time when people are looking at everything more critically, and for good reason too. Im one of those but only because those ahead of me, by 'trusting' strangers, put whole generations in situations of perpetual debt, etc. so now, many of us are more distrustful than ever. can you blame us? really has nothing to do with GMCs except that the same old ways extend into every facet of our societies.
hey, check this out: when you break it down [The Word], "Registry" something interesting appears
have a look at this: https://glosbe.com/la/en/regis
"regis
Type: verb, noun;
en.wiktionary.org
second-person singular present active indicative of regō "you rule, you govern" "you guide, you steer" "
how cool is that?
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 10 April 2018 08:46
It is unlikely that the moderator of anybody else will chime in. We are currently in "Sandbox" which is a section that is left open for people to try out posting and look at how the sigfile publishes. Most members never even look here,
its a special place.. lol
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 10 April 2018 08:46
and the e-mail readers can even see it without opening the forum with a browser.
presuming a typo here (I do this often aswell) but thats why I like it here better. and would like to use it to its full potential.
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 10 April 2018 08:46
Well, I have work to do and other people to annoy.
I wish you luck and I do hope we meet at a convention/rally at some point.
Matt
well thanks then, maybe someday! one of my goals is to go full-time with a GMC at some point.
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| Re: Advice on buying my first GMC coach? [message #331000 is a reply to message #330996] |
Sun, 15 April 2018 22:00 |
Dennis S
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GMC2000
I started a new thread on the main page to answer your question regarding interior finishes.
It's a link to albums by the GMC historian.
Good luck with the new coach.
Be curious to see how you proceed.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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