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 Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326335 is a reply to message #326333] |
Sat, 25 November 2017 18:43   |
powerjon
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Will,
You need to put a signature line that list your location, year of coach, model and other information.
JR Wright
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GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
Also you can get used cabinets from Cinnabar, be prepared to spend a little, but way less expensive that have cabinets made if you do not possess the skills to do it yourself.
JR
> On Nov 25, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Will Albers wrote:
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> I really thought I purchased a premium coach, but I'm sad to say I was taken. :( The more i dig, the more I find extensive water damage. At this
> point, its going to need a new interior and some work on the floorboards. See this link for the latest on the floor:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/2aAvYpOjHiwu58xo1
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> In need of the following in Detroit from a Palm Beach. Anything you can do to help is appreciated:
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> Kitchen cabinet base. Any tips on having something made?
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> Closet wall next to kitchen. Its ready to crumble. Is it worth while placing a sheet of ABS against it to try to keep it from falling apart? By the
> way, what would leak from above the forward side of the closet, and down the inside of the closet drawers next to the stove top?
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> Headboard and foot board. Any tips, or plans on new is appreciated
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> I needed all upper cabinets, and i mean ALL. Big THANKS to a local - Nicole Griffin - She saved my ass by offering her uppers. They are in better
> shape than mine
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326339 is a reply to message #326336] |
Sat, 25 November 2017 22:07 |
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Matt Colie
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Will Albers wrote on Sat, 25 November 2017 20:15I'll give Cinnabar a call on Monday. Hopefully my signature is now updated as well!
Will,
Two things:
Call Cinnabar, but you really need to look at what you need. All that stuff is so simple that, with a shop like you have a just a little direction, you can make better - faster than you can buy.
Oh, do not use the existing wood as patterns, you can so better if you rescue a refrigerator box for someone's trash to use the large pieces for patterns. A lot of the reason the water damage looks bad is that the coach was fit in particle board and that and any small amount of water is a big issue.
If you need guidance or moral support, you know how close by I am.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326340 is a reply to message #326339] |
Sat, 25 November 2017 22:46 |
jimk
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I would not jump into spending money at a shop till you have had a chance
to have others evaluate the damage as some are not as bad as it seem.
Also fix the leak first before doing interior work.
Sometimes the leak can be from the plumbing.
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Will Albers wrote on Sat, 25 November 2017 20:15
>> I'll give Cinnabar a call on Monday. Hopefully my signature is now
> updated as well!
>
> Will,
>
> Two things:
>
> Call Cinnabar, but you really need to look at what you need. All that
> stuff is so simple that, with a shop like you have a just a little
> direction,
> you can make better - faster than you can buy.
>
> Oh, do not use the existing wood as patterns, you can so better if you
> rescue a refrigerator box for someone's trash to use the large pieces for
> patterns. A lot of the reason the water damage looks bad is that the
> coach was fit in particle board and that and any small amount of water is a
> big
> issue.
>
> If you need guidance or moral support, you know how close by I am.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326341 is a reply to message #326340] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 05:05 |
Will Albers
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Thanks Jim, I didn't think about plumbing... I've been looking up and out!
I'll look into that today!
On Nov 25, 2017 11:47 PM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
> I would not jump into spending money at a shop till you have had a chance
> to have others evaluate the damage as some are not as bad as it seem.
> Also fix the leak first before doing interior work.
> Sometimes the leak can be from the plumbing.
>
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
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>> Will Albers wrote on Sat, 25 November 2017 20:15
>>> I'll give Cinnabar a call on Monday. Hopefully my signature is now
>> updated as well!
>>
>> Will,
>>
>> Two things:
>>
>> Call Cinnabar, but you really need to look at what you need. All that
>> stuff is so simple that, with a shop like you have a just a little
>> direction,
>> you can make better - faster than you can buy.
>>
>> Oh, do not use the existing wood as patterns, you can so better if you
>> rescue a refrigerator box for someone's trash to use the large pieces for
>> patterns. A lot of the reason the water damage looks bad is that the
>> coach was fit in particle board and that and any small amount of water
> is a
>> big
>> issue.
>>
>> If you need guidance or moral support, you know how close by I am.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326342 is a reply to message #326339] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 05:04 |
Will Albers
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As always Matt, you are a godsend! The moral support is as appreciated as
the technical.
Emotional weekend from what was to be a nice floor install, into what was
seen within the photos, but I appreciate the kitchen advice. That is the
silliest package of cabinets and rotted wood turned mouse hotel. I agree
that I could build a better mousetrap, but a little cost here and there
allows for labor elsewhere.
On Nov 25, 2017 11:08 PM, "Matt Colie" wrote:
> Will Albers wrote on Sat, 25 November 2017 20:15
>> I'll give Cinnabar a call on Monday. Hopefully my signature is now
> updated as well!
>
> Will,
>
> Two things:
>
> Call Cinnabar, but you really need to look at what you need. All that
> stuff is so simple that, with a shop like you have a just a little
> direction,
> you can make better - faster than you can buy.
>
> Oh, do not use the existing wood as patterns, you can so better if you
> rescue a refrigerator box for someone's trash to use the large pieces for
> patterns. A lot of the reason the water damage looks bad is that the
> coach was fit in particle board and that and any small amount of water is a
> big
> issue.
>
> If you need guidance or moral support, you know how close by I am.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326345 is a reply to message #326341] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 09:22 |
Will Albers
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Found majority of leaks are the windows themselves. While there are the
occasional drips from the top, the lower back corner of the large windows
pour water.
I've found the drains are clear, and it's not overflowing into the screen
channel. Would that imply it's seeping through the window seals themselves?
I'm comfortable removing the windows if need be, but is there some way I
can seal the edge externally? I watched it done on YouTube, but I'm curious
if it can be done in colder weather. I'd prefer this method for the toll
windows vs removal and reinstallation
On Nov 26, 2017 6:05 AM, "Will" wrote:
> Thanks Jim, I didn't think about plumbing... I've been looking up and out!
> I'll look into that today!
>
> On Nov 25, 2017 11:47 PM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>
>> I would not jump into spending money at a shop till you have had a chance
>> to have others evaluate the damage as some are not as bad as it seem.
>> Also fix the leak first before doing interior work.
>> Sometimes the leak can be from the plumbing.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Matt Colie
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Will Albers wrote on Sat, 25 November 2017 20:15
>>>> I'll give Cinnabar a call on Monday. Hopefully my signature is now
>>> updated as well!
>>>
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> Two things:
>>>
>>> Call Cinnabar, but you really need to look at what you need. All that
>>> stuff is so simple that, with a shop like you have a just a little
>>> direction,
>>> you can make better - faster than you can buy.
>>>
>>> Oh, do not use the existing wood as patterns, you can so better if you
>>> rescue a refrigerator box for someone's trash to use the large pieces
>> for
>>> patterns. A lot of the reason the water damage looks bad is that the
>>> coach was fit in particle board and that and any small amount of water
>> is a
>>> big
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> If you need guidance or moral support, you know how close by I am.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much water damage on new coach [message #326349 is a reply to message #326348] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 12:36 |
jimk
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Will,
Keep in mind that the overhead lights are contributors to leak.
The older lens crack and the gasket that seal the lense along with the base
are contributors.
On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Kingsley Coach
wrote:
> Will
>
> I'm not asking just saying....there is work involved in every GMC. You may
> not have been "taken" depending on what you paid for it. On the other
> hand, maybe you were!
>
> Send John Shotwell the TZE number please and join the Black list..if you
> need info or email addresses, just ask me...
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike from NS
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> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Charles Boyd
> wrote:
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>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7119-water-leaks.html
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>> 76 Crestmont
>> East Tennessee
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> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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The more i dig, the more I find extensive water damage. At this point, its going to need a new interior and some work on the floorboards. See this link for the latest on the floor: 
