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[GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321966] Sat, 12 August 2017 12:53 Go to next message
Olly Schmidt is currently offline  Olly Schmidt   United States
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In 2015 I removed all original insulation from the ceiling of my 26' to
replace it with more modern stuff. Some photos on the photo site show
details.

Today, we found out what a difference the old and the new bring. While
the ceiling is only slightly warm, the driver side next to the bunk beds
is very warm. I'd say at least 5-10Kelvin difference. This means for me:
The 23' will receive a full insulation ceiling and walls.

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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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'76a Eleganza II, Oasis, LV, NV
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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321971 is a reply to message #321966] Sat, 12 August 2017 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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It's also the same as ONE DEGREE CELSIUS (formerly "centigrade).



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From: Gmclist on behalf of Rob Mueller
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 16:20
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation

G'day,

For those of you not familiar with the Kelvin scale:

1 Kelvin is equal to 1.8 degree Fahrenheit.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:54 AM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Value of insulation

In 2015 I removed all original insulation from the ceiling of my 26' to
replace it with more modern stuff. Some photos on the photo site show
details.

Today, we found out what a difference the old and the new bring. While
the ceiling is only slightly warm, the driver side next to the bunk beds
is very warm. I'd say at least 5-10Kelvin difference. This means for me:
The 23' will receive a full insulation ceiling and walls.

--
Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA


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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321972 is a reply to message #321966] Sat, 12 August 2017 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

For those of you not familiar with the Kelvin scale:

1 Kelvin is equal to 1.8 degree Fahrenheit.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:54 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Value of insulation

In 2015 I removed all original insulation from the ceiling of my 26' to
replace it with more modern stuff. Some photos on the photo site show
details.

Today, we found out what a difference the old and the new bring. While
the ceiling is only slightly warm, the driver side next to the bunk beds
is very warm. I'd say at least 5-10Kelvin difference. This means for me:
The 23' will receive a full insulation ceiling and walls.

--
Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA


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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321973 is a reply to message #321972] Sat, 12 August 2017 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Zero degrees Celsius is 273 degrees Kelvin. Kelvin scale starts at Zero which is defined as ABSOLUTE ZERO where all molecular activity has ceased (minus 273 C).


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Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
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'76 ex-Palm Beach
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Rob Mueller
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 16:20
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation

G'day,

For those of you not familiar with the Kelvin scale:

1 Kelvin is equal to 1.8 degree Fahrenheit.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:54 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Value of insulation

In 2015 I removed all original insulation from the ceiling of my 26' to
replace it with more modern stuff. Some photos on the photo site show
details.

Today, we found out what a difference the old and the new bring. While
the ceiling is only slightly warm, the driver side next to the bunk beds
is very warm. I'd say at least 5-10Kelvin difference. This means for me:
The 23' will receive a full insulation ceiling and walls.

--
Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA


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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321977 is a reply to message #321972] Sat, 12 August 2017 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olly Schmidt is currently offline  Olly Schmidt   United States
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Rob Mueller schrieb/wrote
> For those of you not familiar with the Kelvin scale

oops, sorry. Kelvin was used as that is the base to calculate
temperature differences whenever some heatpump guy is talking to me :-)

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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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'76a Eleganza II, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321978 is a reply to message #321966] Sat, 12 August 2017 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote on Sat, 12 August 2017 13:53
In 2015 I removed all original insulation from the ceiling of my 26' to
replace it with more modern stuff. Some photos on the photo site show details.

Today, we found out what a difference the old and the new bring. While the ceiling is only slightly warm, the driver side next to the bunk beds is very warm. I'd say at least 5-10Kelvin difference. This means for me:
The 23' will receive a full insulation ceiling and walls.

--
Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt


Peer,

Nothing in the above statement is in error.
What is confusing to some it the difference between one degree Kelvin and one Kelvin degree.
One of these is a sensible (measurable) temperature and the other is a variation in the sensed temperature.

I used to have this discussion with lab techs all the time.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321979 is a reply to message #321977] Sat, 12 August 2017 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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No problem Peer, there is always someone who can translate

Mike in NS

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC <
posde@theinternet.de> wrote:

> Rob Mueller schrieb/wrote
>> For those of you not familiar with the Kelvin scale
>
> oops, sorry. Kelvin was used as that is the base to calculate
> temperature differences whenever some heatpump guy is talking to me :-)
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
>
> '76a Eleganza II, CA
> '73 Sequoia, VA
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #321999 is a reply to message #321966] Sun, 13 August 2017 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My physical chemistry prof always reminded us, there are no 'degrees kelvin', there are kelvins.

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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #322000 is a reply to message #321978] Sun, 13 August 2017 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe 1 Celsius degree = 1 kelvin degree. It is just where they start counting.

Absolute 0 or freezing point of water.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] Value of insulation [message #322120 is a reply to message #321966] Mon, 14 August 2017 21:41 Go to previous message
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Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote on Sat, 12 August 2017 12:53
In 2015
Today, we found out what a difference the old and the new bring. While
the ceiling is only slightly warm, the driver side next to the bunk beds
is very warm. I'd say at least 5-10Kelvin difference. This means for me:
The 23' will receive a full insulation ceiling and walls.


Some of us have expended significant effort insulating walls and ceilings. So I'm glad to hear that it makes a difference no matter what scale is used to measure.

JP

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