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Thu, 27 July 2017 09:57  |
kstockwell
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Hi all
I'm interested getting a full body paint job on my rig; remove and reinstall the awnings, redo the roof seals, install the roof visor, maybe install the large side windows- whole shebang outside. And, maybe have the captain chairs, two inside chairs and large cushions for the couches re-upholstered.
Existing paint job is a 10 footer, the awnings weren't removed, plenty of overspray. Not awful just not as good as it could be.
Is there anyone in the northeast who can do this? Preferably 200-300 miles from me in southern VT?
Jim Bounds is 1300 miles away
Cinnabar is 625 miles away (through canada)
I'm assuming this is $10-15k depending on my add ons and "we need to address this". Is that a reasonable expectation of cost?
kelly
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
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| Re: full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321182 is a reply to message #321176] |
Thu, 27 July 2017 11:43  |
77Royale
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There are a lot of variables to play with, and I am by no means an expert. Ive read 10-15K is in the ballpark if you can find a shop thats interested and has a large enough booth.
One color, or two, or multiple colors and stripes. Single stage, or base coat / clear coat.
How much are you comfortable spending on a gallon of paint? 100 a gallon or 600+ a gallon. Metallic, pearl, solid.
Im pretty sure some folks on here are professional painters. Jim B has documented a few of his techniques and those are nice as well.
I painted my coach this spring, so my costs are vastly different, but I clocked in a good 90+ hours just in the prep work before I opened a can of paint. Thankfully I did not have roof damage, or any leaks when I started so that was a bonus.
I probably spent 15 hours just cleaning, scrubbing and removing old sealers before I actually started "prep" work.
It may be worth going to paint shop locally and seeing if they can fix or address your concerns via buffing/cleaning prior to a full blown paint job. That is unless you cant stand the color.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321184 is a reply to message #321182] |
Thu, 27 July 2017 12:03 |
Justin Brady
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I just had mine painted (in illionis) and the cost was 11K which was the family discount price. Real cost should have been pushing 20.
That was to take every speck of paint off down to bare metal and start fresh. If your paint is in good shape already then it will be closer to 8-10 realistic price.
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
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| Re: [GMCnet] full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321185 is a reply to message #321184] |
Thu, 27 July 2017 12:19 |
James Hupy
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Kelly, QUALITY paint jobs, including normal amount of prep, removing lights
and moldings and trim, but, not entire paint removal, one or two colors,
will start around $ 10,000.00. Fancy work will run the cost up from there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 27, 2017 10:04 AM, "Justin Brady" wrote:
> I just had mine painted (in illionis) and the cost was 11K which was the
> family discount price. Real cost should have been pushing 20.
> That was to take every speck of paint off down to bare metal and start
> fresh. If your paint is in good shape already then it will be closer to 8-10
> realistic price.
> --
> Justin Brady
> http://www.thegmcrv.com/
> 1976 Palm Beach 455
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| Re: full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321188 is a reply to message #321176] |
Thu, 27 July 2017 13:56 |
jhb1
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Drive it to JimB for the winter see the mouse have a small vacation take cheap flight back home pick it up in the spring
John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
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| Re: [GMCnet] full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321196 is a reply to message #321185] |
Thu, 27 July 2017 21:51 |
kstockwell
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That's what I want, take all the parts off it and then sand it. I didn't think all the paint needed to come off.
Thanks all!
kelly
[quote title=James Hupy wrote on Thu, 27 July 2017 13:19]Kelly, QUALITY paint jobs, including normal amount of prep, removing lights
and moldings and trim, but, not entire paint removal, one or two colors,
will start around $ 10,000.00. Fancy work will run the cost up from there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
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| Re: [GMCnet] full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321203 is a reply to message #321196] |
Fri, 28 July 2017 10:30 |
Justin Brady
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Kelly, it depends on the condition of the paint. Mine looked okay from a distance but once we started sanding we found pinholes and solvent pop everywhere and would never have been able to get a good paint job over it. S
If your paint job is in better shape then you just have to thoroughly clean and scuff the factory paint to bond to the new.
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
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| Re: full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321221 is a reply to message #321176] |
Fri, 28 July 2017 20:34 |
Larry
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My coach was a patchwork of different shades of white. Basic underneath was the original factory paint. That factory paint is tough stuff and I see no reason it should be cleaned down to bare metal. It was prepared and painted by Topeka Graphics in Topeka Indiana. Done in 2011 and rarely stored under cover, it has held up well and still looks good up close. A couple of suggestions...If you are adding a visor, ask them to paint the underside of the visor black. If in a light color, at night, it will reflect the light coming from the forward running lights and can be quite distracting. In addition, the visor needs to be Glued and mechanically fastened. If not, forward travel with a strong head wind will in time loosen it. I had the black belt line painted white, but have found that paint is now coming off in some spots. Make sure that you get colors and formulas of the paint used. Eventually something is going to have to be touched up or maybe a "T" skirt replaced, or a hot water heater replaced and cover needs to be painted. It will make things easier to get a rattle can that matches.
Here are photos of the paint job when I picked it up.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/our-coach/p35273-our-newly-painted-coach.html
Based on what people are paying now, the price at Topeka was a steal. Unfortunately, word is that they are no longer doing GMC's....but might be worth asking. JWID
Oh...and one more thing. I think Jimmy K said it best when he recommends paint it as if you are gong to sell it.
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321228 is a reply to message #321221] |
Fri, 28 July 2017 22:48 |
sgltrac
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Several good points Larry.
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 6:35 PM Larry wrote:
> My coach was a patchwork of different shades of white. Basic underneath
> was the original factory paint. That factory paint is tough stuff and I see
> no
> reason it should be cleaned down to bare metal. It was prepared and
> painted by Topeka Graphics in Topeka Indiana. Done in 2011 and rarely
> stored under
> cover, it has held up well and still looks good up close. A couple of
> suggestions...If you are adding a visor, ask them to paint the underside of
> the
> visor black. If in a light color, at night, it will reflect the light
> coming from the forward running lights and can be quite distracting. In
> addition, the visor needs to be Glued and mechanically fastened. If not,
> forward travel with a strong head wind will in time loosen it. I had the
> black belt line painted white, but. have found that paint is now coming
> off in some spots. Make sure that you get colors and formulas of the paint
> used. Eventually something is going to have to be touched up or maybe a
> "T" skirt replaced, or a hot water heater replaced and cover needs to be
> painted. It will make things easier to get a rattle can that matches.
>
> Here are photos of the paint job when I picked it up.
>
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/our-coach/p35273-our-newly-painted-coach.html
>
> Based on what people are paying now, the price at Topeka was a steal.
> Unfortunately, word is that they are no longer doing GMC's....but might be
> worth asking. JWID
> --
> Larry
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321235 is a reply to message #321228] |
Sat, 29 July 2017 08:40 |
kstockwell
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As usual, these are all great suggestions/ posts. I'm pipe dreaming right now, but may make it a reality in a year or two. Thank you for the tips on the visor, it completely makes sense.
I got myself polish compound, and a wheel to see what I can do with serious buffing and waxing. The colors are fine, it's just chippy in spots, the fridge vent cover was painted with the wrong colors; really nothing big; but dreaming. It's hard to not dream when looking at some seriously lovely paint jobs/designs.
-kelly
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
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| Re: [GMCnet] full body paint, seal redo, add visor [message #321243 is a reply to message #321235] |
Sat, 29 July 2017 11:27 |
sgltrac
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If the paint is not adhering properly to the substrate or is failing by
microfracturing commonly known as checking or crows feet it Needs to be
removed. Otherwise it can be abraded for adhesion and top coated.
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 6:40 AM kelly stockwell wrote:
> As usual, these are all great suggestions/ posts. I'm pipe dreaming right
> now, but may make it a reality in a year or two. Thank you for the tips on
> the visor, it completely makes sense.
>
> I got myself polish compound, and a wheel to see what I can do with
> serious buffing and waxing. The colors are fine, it's just chippy in
> spots, the
> fridge vent cover was painted with the wrong colors; really nothing big;
> but dreaming. It's hard to not dream when looking at some seriously lovely
> paint jobs/designs.
>
> -kelly
> --
> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT
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