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Fri, 21 July 2017 09:11  |
eagleman 73 Sequoia 26
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Trying to clean up the engine compartment on my 1973 GMC26. Bought some of Eastwood's excellent ceramic engine paint (Olds Blue) for $40 delivered only to find it is not the right blue. It is a bright metallic blue. Now I need to find out which is the right color. A duplic-Color ceramic engine paint reference would be my preference. Is the "GM Corporate Blue" the right color? My engine looks more like a teal color, but it is 45 year old paint. Any help?
John
73" Sequoia
Virginia Beach, VA.
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320769 is a reply to message #320759] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 10:29   |
jimk
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Best to go to your local auto parts shop and look at their color chart then
order a color you think it should be.
I believe the origional was metallic paint.
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 7:11 AM, John Procida wrote:
> Trying to clean up the engine compartment on my GMC26. Bought some of
> Eastwood's excellent ceramic engine paint (Olds Blue) for $40 delivered
> only to
> find it is not the right blue. It is a bright metallic blue. Now I need
> to find out which is the right color. A duplic-Color ceramic engine paint
> reference would be my preference. Is the "GM Corporate Blue" the right
> color? My engine looks more like a teal color, but it is 45 year old paint.
> Any help?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320770 is a reply to message #320769] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 10:56   |
eagleman 73 Sequoia 26
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"Best to go to your local auto parts shop and look at their color chart then
order a color you think it should be.
I believe the origional was metallic paint."
That would be a good idea except that I can't take the engine into auto parts place and additionally the RV is several miles away from me and any auto parts store. My original paint doesn't look metallic at all. The new "OLDS Blue" (read "wrong") paint is a very bright metallic blue. I could only buy one of each similar looking blue to take out to the GMC for comparison. If someone knows, it would be easier, quicker and more accurate.
John
73" Sequoia
Virginia Beach, VA.
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320781 is a reply to message #320777] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 12:04   |
eagleman 73 Sequoia 26
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Bullithead, that is exactly what my 73 looks like. Kinda like a faded-light-bluish-teal looking with maybe some good southern states yellow pollen dust thrown in! But I don't detect any metallic. I just haven't found that in a can..... but, still looking.
John
73" Sequoia
Virginia Beach, VA.
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Re: Engine paint? [message #320782 is a reply to message #320759] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 12:19   |
Dennis S
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eagleman 73 GMC Sequoia 2 wrote on Fri, 21 July 2017 09:11Trying to clean up the engine compartment on my 1973 GMC26. Bought some of Eastwood's excellent ceramic engine paint (Olds Blue) for $40 delivered only to find it is not the right blue. It is a bright metallic blue. Now I need to find out which is the right color. A duplic-Color ceramic engine paint reference would be my preference. Is the "GM Corporate Blue" the right color? My engine looks more like a teal color, but it is 45 year old paint. Any help?
I bought a can of Olds engine paint at Autozone and was happy with the match.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/73-painted-desert-230/p30629-sept-04-09-009.html
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320783 is a reply to message #320781] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 12:21   |
Bullitthead
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"Early engines were gold."
IIRC, the original engine block in my Dad's '67 Ninety-eight was gold with red valve covers and a red air cleaner housing. The rest of the compartment is black, not the body color. When the oil pump gave up and the engine was replaced, the color was changed to blue by the rebuilder...did not like that, but also did not like that he declared the original 425 beyond repair and substituted a 455 which has never run right and now has a burned exhaust valve. That original engine went a quarter of a million miles and was still running smooth as silk with no exhaust smoke from oil until the oil pump went in the middle of a 5 mile long bridge, and it kept going after that to get him off the bridge, but I guess that was what did in the cylinder walls. Heck, the factory water pump lasted 222,000 miles until one night somewhere in Alabama, where Dad and I replaced it at a self-serve gas station in the middle of the night.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320785 is a reply to message #320783] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 12:53   |
James Hupy
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My first father in law and I had an arrangement in which I did the
mechanical restoration and he did the cosmetic part of old automobiles. He
had 2 favorite paint colors for engines. Battleship gray, and Catterpillar
Yellow. Didn't matter if the engine went into a 49 Cadillac Sedanette, a
Willys Jeepster, A Studebaker Transtar pickup, or anything else. He said
colors didn't matter. Engines didn't know the difference. Coropate blue was
used by several divisions of GM. Kinda like putting 350 Chevrolet engines
in Pontiacs. Customers never recovered from bean counter decisions like
that. Killed Olds, Pontiac, Saturn too.
Now an Impala looks like a Camry, or an Accord, or Hyndai or for that
matter, a refrigerator or a toaster. More like appliances than cars.
The tri-fives are long gon.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 21, 2017 10:35 AM, "Terry" wrote:
> "Early engines were gold."
>
> IIRC, the original engine block in my Dad's '67 Ninety-eight was gold with
> red valve covers and a red air cleaner housing. The rest of the compartment
> is black, not the body color. When the oil pump gave up and the engine was
> replaced, the color was changed to blue by the rebuilder...did not like
> that, but also did not like that he declared the original 425 beyond
> repair and substituted a 455 which has never run right and now has a burned
> exhaust valve. That original engine went a quarter of a million miles and
> was still running smooth as silk with no exhaust smoke from oil until the
> oil pump went in the middle of a 5 mile long bridge, and it kept going
> after that to get him off the bridge, but I guess that was what did in the
> cylinder walls. Heck, the factory water pump lasted 222,000 miles until
> one night somewhere in Alabama, where Dad and I replaced it at a self-serve
> gas station in the middle of the night.
> --
> Terry Kelpien
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> ASE Master Technician
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> 73 Glacier 260
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> Smithfield, Va.
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320786 is a reply to message #320782] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 12:56   |
mercdave
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I ran into the same issue with paint.
I used this, but again, it is the darker metallic blue.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/opg-c220131
The industry seems to have confused Pontiac engine blue with the early 455 metallic teal colored paint.
The only promising paint that I found was on Ebay but I did not try it because the photos of the engine look too dark even if the photo of the lid in the can looks right. Again, this states 75-76 Pontiac.
FWID I think that the gold color was used on the Olds 350.
Dave L.
Lynnwood, WA
'73 23' #295
----- Original Message -----
> eagleman 73 GMC Sequoia 2 wrote on Fri, 21 July 2017 09:11
>> Trying to clean up the engine compartment on my 1973 GMC26. Bought some of
>> Eastwood's excellent ceramic engine paint (Olds Blue) for $40
>> delivered only to find it is not the right blue. It is a bright metallic
>> blue. Now I need to find out which is the right color. A duplic-Color
>> ceramic engine paint reference would be my preference. Is the "GM
>> Corporate Blue" the right color? My engine looks more like a teal color,
>> but it
>> is 45 year old paint. Any help?
>
>
> I bought a can of Olds engine paint at Autozone and was happy with the match.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/73-painted-desert-230/p30629-sept-04-09-009.html
>
> Dennis
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Memphis TN Metro
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320789 is a reply to message #320785] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 13:15   |
Hal StClair
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Now Jim, I don't know that using a Honda engine in a Saturn hurt their valve at all....
Hal
James Hupy wrote on Fri, 21 July 2017 11:53My first father in law and I had an arrangement in which I did the
mechanical restoration and he did the cosmetic part of old automobiles. He
had 2 favorite paint colors for engines. Battleship gray, and Catterpillar
Yellow. Didn't matter if the engine went into a 49 Cadillac Sedanette, a
Willys Jeepster, A Studebaker Transtar pickup, or anything else. He said
colors didn't matter. Engines didn't know the difference. Coropate blue was
used by several divisions of GM. Kinda like putting 350 Chevrolet engines
in Pontiacs. Customers never recovered from bean counter decisions like
that. Killed Olds, Pontiac, Saturn too.
Now an Impala looks like a Camry, or an Accord, or Hyndai or for that
matter, a refrigerator or a toaster. More like appliances than cars.
The tri-fives are long gon.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 21, 2017 10:35 AM, "Terry" wrote:
> "Early engines were gold."
>
> IIRC, the original engine block in my Dad's '67 Ninety-eight was gold with
> red valve covers and a red air cleaner housing. The rest of the compartment
> is black, not the body color. When the oil pump gave up and the engine was
> replaced, the color was changed to blue by the rebuilder...did not like
> that, but also did not like that he declared the original 425 beyond
> repair and substituted a 455 which has never run right and now has a burned
> exhaust valve. That original engine went a quarter of a million miles and
> was still running smooth as silk with no exhaust smoke from oil until the
> oil pump went in the middle of a 5 mile long bridge, and it kept going
> after that to get him off the bridge, but I guess that was what did in the
> cylinder walls. Heck, the factory water pump lasted 222,000 miles until
> one night somewhere in Alabama, where Dad and I replaced it at a self-serve
> gas station in the middle of the night.
> --
> Terry Kelpien
>
> ASE Master Technician
>
> 73 Glacier 260
>
> Smithfield, Va.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320804 is a reply to message #320769] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 17:25   |
James Hupy
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Seems like every time I wash and polish my coach, I break some belts or
hoses or something. So, it gets washed on a semi-annual schedule. But, it
gets it's oil changed and lube service on regular schedules. I wash the
glass every morning before I travel. Walk around and check the lights and
turn signals, etc. every morning. Same with oil, tranny fluid, take a
gander under the front end for torn boots, leaks etc. I thank Uncle Sam for
that habit. If you are driving one of his rigs, and you are stopped, you
better have that hood up and a rag in your hand.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 21, 2017 3:12 PM, "David H. Jarvis" wrote:
Unless the engine is going into a museum or a concours auto show, who is
going to see it?
Who cares?
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Re: [GMCnet] Engine paint? [message #320819 is a reply to message #320776] |
Fri, 21 July 2017 22:04   |
mrgmc3
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BobDunahugh wrote on Fri, 21 July 2017 11:23What year do you have? That makes a difference. I think 73-76 were a metallic blue. 77-78 were corporate blue. You may have to go to an Olds vender for the early engine color. Bob Dunahugh
Bob is correct. '70-'76 Olds 455 were a medium metallic blue. Only the Olds 350 in this era were gold. GM switched to "corporate" blue in '77 for all gasoline engines. It is a similar shade but solid not metallic. I suspect, but do not know, that '77 455s are also 76 Olds blue. I bet the build date of these engines pre date July '76 when Olds stopped building 455s for passenger cars. Or they might have continued building into the '77 model year until they ran out of parts, but the Lansing engine plant could have cranked out the 1600 or 1700 '77 GMC 455s in a day or two.
Chris Geils - Twin Cities / W Wa
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