| Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319717] |
Wed, 28 June 2017 16:09  |
Wayne
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Hot day, hills and old gas -vapor lock and or fuel starvation? I changed the inline fuel filter and made it home ok. But it was late in the day and had cooled down a bit. I would like to know if it was the filter.I have an electric pump in 1 of the tanks (no help). Its been a couple of weeks. Its easy to blow tru now. I cut it open and took out the filter part. I can't blow tru the paper. Is this normal? Does the gas seep/weep tru the paper? I have never opened 1 before.
Wayne Lawrence
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Bellflower CA
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| Re: Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319719 is a reply to message #319717] |
Wed, 28 June 2017 17:11  |
Tony Cook
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My filter use to do that all the time till my tanks were dropped and cleaned. best test is to drive it with new filter in same conditions and see if that did the trick. I keep several of the Qjet filters in my glove box.
Tony Cook
77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 '
Torrance Beach,CA
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| Re: Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319721 is a reply to message #319717] |
Wed, 28 June 2017 18:29 |
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Matt Colie
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Wayne wrote on Wed, 28 June 2017 17:09Hot day, hills and old gas -vapor lock and or fuel starvation? I changed the inline fuel filter and made it home ok. But it was late in the day and had cooled down a bit. I would like to know if it was the filter.I have an electric pump in 1 of the tanks (no help). Its been a couple of weeks. Its easy to blow tru now. I cut it open and took out the filter part. I can't blow tru the paper. Is this normal? Does the gas seep/weep tru the paper? I have never opened 1 before.
Wayne,
If you are trying to blow through the whole filter element, you should be able to do that. But, If you take just a small section, that is a different game and you will probably not be be able to. The only test is with the filter element in its housing.
Did you unwrap it and see how much filter paper is in there?
Remember, gasoline (even crapohol) is very low viscosity and you a gallon in 6 minutes at 3PSID is what is needed for a 6MPG vehicle That is not a lot.
Matt
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| Re: Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319723 is a reply to message #319721] |
Wed, 28 June 2017 19:05 |
Wayne
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Matt
It sounds like no way to know except road test. Is there any reason to cut open a new one to compare
or is it just a waste of time?
Wayne Lawrence
76 Birchaven
Bellflower CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319735 is a reply to message #319725] |
Wed, 28 June 2017 22:10 |
Richard Denney
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Matt, if the fuel tank is rusty, the rust will clog the filter with
extremely visible particles.
But I agree that the best way to prevent a clogged fuel filter is to
install it where it's easy to get to and replace it routinely.
Rick "BTDT, got the T-shirt" Denney
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Wayne wrote on Wed, 28 June 2017 20:05
>> Matt
>>
>> It sounds like no way to know except road test. Is there any reason to
> cut open a new one to compare
>> or is it just a waste of time?
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> Wayne,
>
> In my experience, there is nothing to see in most fuel filters that fail
> to flow. The captured particles are so small that they are not something
> one
> can see.
>
> Even an crude flow test can tell you a lot.
>
> I my last lab, we actually has flow stands for filters that had
> differential pressure instruments and calibrated flow sources. Not your
> typical
> garage stuff.
>
> Matt
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319736 is a reply to message #319735] |
Wed, 28 June 2017 22:29 |
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USAussie
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Yep, like here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p54750-fuel-pump-inlet-filter.html
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Inline Fuel Filter Question
Matt, if the fuel tank is rusty, the rust will clog the filter with
extremely visible particles.
But I agree that the best way to prevent a clogged fuel filter is to
install it where it's easy to get to and replace it routinely.
Rick "BTDT, got the T-shirt" Denney
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319743 is a reply to message #319735] |
Thu, 29 June 2017 08:11 |
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Matt Colie
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Richard Denney wrote on Wed, 28 June 2017 23:10Matt, if the fuel tank is rusty, the rust will clog the filter with
extremely visible particles.
But I agree that the best way to prevent a clogged fuel filter is to
install it where it's easy to get to and replace it routinely.
Rick "BTDT, got the T-shirt" Denney
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Northern Virginia
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Rick,
I completely agree, but in this case, OP said he had opened the filter. If rust flakes were the issue, I don't think he would have bothered trying to blow though the paper element.
I think we all have a few of those T-shirts.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inline Fuel Filter Question [message #319746 is a reply to message #319735] |
Thu, 29 June 2017 08:45 |
jimk
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Never run your carb w/o that filter.
You'll end up needing to clean the carb.
That filter works opposite as it allows fuel to flow fro the inside to
outside , so you cannot see the coating of particulates on the outside. Cut
it and look on other side.
The new fuel with ethanal is cleaning up your tank, so you need to put
another Larger filter ahead of the pump.
Should one install it in the wrong area, you'll have vapor loc issue.
There are other things that must be addressed to help avoid this problem.
Call me so we can discuss.
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Richard Denney wrote:
> Matt, if the fuel tank is rusty, the rust will clog the filter with
> extremely visible particles.
>
> But I agree that the best way to prevent a clogged fuel filter is to
> install it where it's easy to get to and replace it routinely.
>
> Rick "BTDT, got the T-shirt" Denney
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
>> Wayne wrote on Wed, 28 June 2017 20:05
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> It sounds like no way to know except road test. Is there any reason to
>> cut open a new one to compare
>>> or is it just a waste of time?
>>
>>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> In my experience, there is nothing to see in most fuel filters that fail
>> to flow. The captured particles are so small that they are not something
>> one
>> can see.
>>
>> Even an crude flow test can tell you a lot.
>>
>> I my last lab, we actually has flow stands for filters that had
>> differential pressure instruments and calibrated flow sources. Not your
>> typical
>> garage stuff.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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