| mice mice mice [message #316839] |
Sun, 30 April 2017 14:06  |
tgeiger
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Ok, got some steel wool and some time this sfternoon. So where do I place this steel wool to keep those little turds from getting in? Or am I fighting a fools battle?
Tom Geiger
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316841 is a reply to message #316839] |
Sun, 30 April 2017 14:54  |
midlf
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Some places are easy to find and some are very hard to get to.. Then there are the ones you don't know about.
Easiest to get to are holes in the floor outboard of the frame rails. Penetrations for pipes, heater loops, water drains. Raise the rear as high as you can and block it up. Never stick any part of you under a GMC, especially in the rear, without blocking the frame. Easiest place is under the bogies. Let some air out so there is load on the blocking. You don't want it to kick out so load it. Go around the coach and stuff the steel wool in any opening you can find. Besides penetrations look for gaps where body panels meet other body parts or the floor. Also check around the wheel wells. Although any gaps there would be better served by using caulk. In the top of the wheel wells are some drains that need to be checked. On the drivers side is a drain from the electrical hatch. Make sure the drain tube there is in place and clear of obstructions. On the pass wheel well are two drains for the water heate. One for the water heater drain and one for the over temp/pressure vent. Do not think a hole is too small for a mouse. If you see it they can get trrough it.
Next are the floor penetrations to the black tank. First is where the sink drain goes into the black tank. It is located in the bottom of the closet module behind a slanted panel. The panel is easy to remove, just a few screws. You can see where the pipe goes through a hole that is larger than the pipe. Next is the bath sink & shower drain this is accessed through a panel on the back outside of the shower module. The third one is the hole where the toilet connects to the balck tank. To get at this one the toilet must be removed. That should be enough to get you started..
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316843 is a reply to message #316842] |
Sun, 30 April 2017 15:49 |
midlf
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Harry wrote on Sun, 30 April 2017 15:25Don't forget under the hood, too.
And behind the front wheel wells.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316844 is a reply to message #316839] |
Sun, 30 April 2017 15:56 |
midlf
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tgeiger wrote on Sun, 30 April 2017 14:06Ok, got some steel wool and some time this sfternoon. So where do I place this steel wool to keep those little turds from getting in? Or am I fighting a fools battle?
I run on the theory that I will never be able to find all the entrance points. So I do everything I can to get the mice before they can get to the coach. I have bait blocks around the barn and along mouse runways in the barn. Outside I have bait blocks in mouse feeders that are constructed to.prevent critters other from mice from getting at the poison. Thus, hopefully my property and barn are mouse black holes.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316846 is a reply to message #316844] |
Sun, 30 April 2017 16:31 |
Hal StClair
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I understand they are nocturnal and don't like light. If a person were to put some LED rope lights under the coach, that SHOULD keep the little critters away.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
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| Re: [GMCnet] mice mice mice [message #316847 is a reply to message #316846] |
Sun, 30 April 2017 16:57 |
sgltrac
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The rear floor below the taillights.
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 2:32 PM Hal StClair
wrote:
> I understand they are nocturnal and don't like light. If a person were to
> put some LED rope lights under the coach, that SHOULD keep the little
> critters away.
> Hal
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> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
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> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout
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| Re: [GMCnet] mice mice mice [message #316896 is a reply to message #316840] |
Mon, 01 May 2017 11:45 |
BobDunahugh
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I can wright a novel on that subject. Our 78 Royale Mouse House sat between a corn field, and a machine shed in Iowa. From Oct 1995 to Oct of 2015. I PACKED. And I mean PACKED 5 large black garbage bags FULL of mouse nest. REALLY. Mice seem to be into football. As I found a huge number of their football everywhere. I had to wear a complete haze mat out fit to gut the interior to the bare walls. Disinfect, ionize, and spray a coat of urethane on any hard surface that was going back in. Used my 3000 PSI power washer to the walls, and floor. Then ionize, and urethane. Pulled ALL 12, and 110 volt wiring out. In doing all this. I found a huge number of places the mice got in. Rebuilt/replace everything inside, and out. And in the process. I cleaned, and painted the entire GMC bottom. Then drove it to the June of 2016 GMCMI Rally. It took 9 months to get us back on the road. And about $35,000 in parts, and material. I got a real deal on the labor. As I got my labor for FREE. And Linda, and I are in heaven with it. Bob Dunahugh The Mouse House
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| Re: [GMCnet] mice mice mice [message #316897 is a reply to message #316896] |
Mon, 01 May 2017 11:56 |
James Hupy
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One mouse is only the tip of the iceberg. There is always more than one.
She is usually back in the nest giving birth. 4 - 6 is the normal litter. 3
to 4 times a year. And newborns are fertile within 6 months. DO THE MATH.
CRAZY STUFF, THIS MOUSE PROCREATION. Think global.
Jim Hupy
On May 1, 2017 9:45 AM, "Bob Dunahugh" wrote:
> I can wright a novel on that subject. Our 78 Royale Mouse House sat
> between a corn field, and a machine shed in Iowa. From Oct 1995 to Oct of
> 2015. I PACKED. And I mean PACKED 5 large black garbage bags FULL of mouse
> nest. REALLY. Mice seem to be into football. As I found a huge number of
> their football everywhere. I had to wear a complete haze mat out fit to gut
> the interior to the bare walls. Disinfect, ionize, and spray a coat of
> urethane on any hard surface that was going back in. Used my 3000 PSI
> power washer to the walls, and floor. Then ionize, and urethane. Pulled ALL
> 12, and 110 volt wiring out. In doing all this. I found a huge number of
> places the mice got in. Rebuilt/replace everything inside, and out. And
> in the process. I cleaned, and painted the entire GMC bottom. Then drove it
> to the June of 2016 GMCMI Rally. It took 9 months to get us back on the
> road. And about $35,000 in parts, and material. I got a real deal on the
> labor. As I got my labor for FREE. And Linda, and I are in heaven with it.
> Bob Dunahugh The Mouse House
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| Re: [GMCnet] mice mice mice [message #316898 is a reply to message #316840] |
Mon, 01 May 2017 11:55 |
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G'Day, Richard
Sure would appreciate a repeat of this email with the brand and model,
when you are re-united with the Ark. I know a few people who have tried
the ultrasonic gizmos, and none of them have worked more than a couple of
weeks, if that long. Those little varmints seem to get used to the
noise, and ignore it.
I have 2 in my attic and a pack rat moved in. Got rid of him with a live
trap, but then one of his younger kin took up residence. Trapped and
relocated that one, then solved the problem with a 30 ft string of clear
LED Christmas lights, on all the time. Pack rats (bushy-tailed wood
rats) are truly nocturnal. I think the mice are still around.
RonC
On Mon, 01 May 2017 00:44:52 -0600 rgf writes:
> I haven't worried about mice for about 10 years or so . Bought a
> couple of those little ultra sonic plug ins and always have one
> running whenever I'm
> parked.
> Have not seen a mouse or any little droppings since. Even quit
> carrying traps as they just aren't around any more.
>
> I see droppings sometimes in the out buildings at home... boom !
> another high fequency noise maker or two ..and they're not there any
> more
>
> Just a thought that might work for you.
>
> Best to ask someone you know which one they have and if it works as
> they do not all do the job. Sorry the ARK is presently 9 hours away
> from me at
> home so can't tell you the make I have
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard and the ARK
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316913 is a reply to message #316839] |
Mon, 01 May 2017 16:40 |
jhbridges
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Cat, cat, cat.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316965 is a reply to message #316839] |
Tue, 02 May 2017 08:00 |
jhbridges
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We had a Maine Coon boy who was a terror on mice. Fortunately before he passed at 15 he taught the Tuxedo girl the fun of mousing.
--johnny
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316968 is a reply to message #316965] |
Tue, 02 May 2017 09:05 |
mghamms
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I'd go with the barn cat.
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316975 is a reply to message #316968] |
Tue, 02 May 2017 11:50 |
midlf
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mghamms wrote on Tue, 02 May 2017 09:05I'd go with the barn cat.
Better yet is the neighbors barn cats. We see four different cats around our place. Most likely from the three neighbors. I suspect they come over here because, after mice eat the "mouse food", we have slow mice.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: mice mice mice [message #316982 is a reply to message #316839] |
Tue, 02 May 2017 14:41 |
tgeiger
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Great information. I've plugged all the holes you mention around the GMC. Have not gotton all under it to look yet because of the none stop rain these past days, but will here when it dries up a bit. I am also storeing it out by a corn field so I'm sure we all are safe haven for these little buggers during winter storage. But this does mean I have no electricity for led lights or sonic deterents. So is either good old fashion mouse traps, (don't use because of potential stench), or my pepermint oil/water mixture. Does kinda keep them away and smells like Christmas all the time in there. But now we are camping with it we are hoping that we won't so many turds to clean up. I'll check under the coach here when it gets drier. Thanks all!
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
KCMO
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