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Power steering pump leak after belt tensioning [message #315577] Thu, 06 April 2017 20:32 Go to next message
Tilerpep is currently offline  Tilerpep   United States
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IF someone were to pry against the rolled edge of the reservoir on the power steering pump, despite multiple forum warnings not to pry against the reservoir, and then there was a seeping leak that shows at the bottom of the pump...what got screwed up?

I found this link that describes some factors in finding a replacement
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=296734&rid=3615&srch=power+steering+pump#msg_296734

I found this link that has great pictures of the internals
http://www.corvette-restoration.com/restoration/motor_and_transmission/060813_power_steering_pump_rebuild.htm

Is it simply that the reservoir twists against the pump and breaks the seal? Will a rebuild kit be enough to seal it back up?

And how are you supposed to lever the blasted thing to begin with. Book and forum say don't use reservoir but use stub behind pulley. I couldn't figure out any combination of any screwdriver or lever that could grab the sloped chunk.

This seal kit is actually in stock near me:
http://www.autozone.com/external-engine/power-steering-pump-seal-kit/duralast-power-steering-pump-seal-kit/21419_0_0

Autozone (part #6053) and Advance (20-6883) say they can get a Toronado pump, but it will take a few days. First read of forum sounds like some special trick to move current pulley to new pump, and pump outlets may be in the wrong place. Supposed to leave for spring break trip Sunday. Thoughts, suggestions, and general calming advice is always appreciated.


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Re: [GMCnet] Power steering pump leak after belt tensioning [message #315579 is a reply to message #315577] Thu, 06 April 2017 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Read here
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-greaser-mod-3/p6222.html

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 6:33 PM Tyler wrote:

> IF someone were to pry against the rolled edge of the reservoir on the
> power steering pump, despite multiple forum warnings not to pry against the
> reservoir, and then there was a seeping leak that shows at the bottom of
> the pump...what got screwed up?
>
> I found this link that describes some factors in finding a replacement
>
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=296734&rid=3615&srch=power+steering+pump#msg_296734
>
> I found this link that has great pictures of the internals
>
> http://www.corvette-restoration.com/restoration/motor_and_transmission/060813_power_steering_pump_rebuild.htm
>
> Is it simply that the reservoir twists against the pump and breaks the
> seal? Will a rebuild kit be enough to seal it back up?
>
> And how are you supposed to lever the blasted thing to begin with. Book
> and forum say don't use reservoir but use stub behind pulley. I couldn't
> figure out any combination of any screwdriver or lever that could grab the
> sloped chunk.
>
> This seal kit is actually in stock near me:
>
> http://www.autozone.com/external-engine/power-steering-pump-seal-kit/duralast-power-steering-pump-seal-kit/21419_0_0
>
> Autozone (part #6053) and Advance (20-6883) say they can get a Toronado
> pump, but it will take a few days. First read of forum sounds like some
> special trick to move current pulley to new pump, and pump outlets may be
> in the wrong place. Supposed to leave for spring break trip Sunday.
> Thoughts, suggestions, and general calming advice is always appreciated.
> --
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> Raleigh, NC
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Re: Power steering pump leak after belt tensioning [message #315581 is a reply to message #315577] Thu, 06 April 2017 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wally is currently offline  wally   United States
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Tilerpep wrote on Thu, 06 April 2017 20:32
IF someone were to pry against the rolled edge of the reservoir on the power steering pump, despite multiple forum warnings not to pry against the reservoir, and then there was a seeping leak that shows at the bottom of the pump...what got screwed up?

I found this link that describes some factors in finding a replacement
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=296734&rid=3615&srch=power+steering+pump#msg_296734

I found this link that has great pictures of the internals
http://www.corvette-restoration.com/restoration/motor_and_transmission/060813_power_steering_pump_rebuild.htm

Is it simply that the reservoir twists against the pump and breaks the seal? Will a rebuild kit be enough to seal it back up?

And how are you supposed to lever the blasted thing to begin with. Book and forum say don't use reservoir but use stub behind pulley. I couldn't figure out any combination of any screwdriver or lever that could grab the sloped chunk.

This seal kit is actually in stock near me:
http://www.autozone.com/external-engine/power-steering-pump-seal-kit/duralast-power-steering-pump-seal-kit/21419_0_0

Autozone (part #6053) and Advance (20-6883) say they can get a Toronado pump, but it will take a few days. First read of forum sounds like some special trick to move current pulley to new pump, and pump outlets may be in the wrong place. Supposed to leave for spring break trip Sunday. Thoughts, suggestions, and general calming advice is always appreciated.

Armand posted a picture of tensioning the PS pump using the "tab"
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc-junk/p43273-power-steering-pump-belt-tensioning.html


Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Re: Power steering pump leak after belt tensioning [message #315582 is a reply to message #315577] Thu, 06 April 2017 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tilerpep is currently offline  Tilerpep   United States
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Gene, your link is for bogie greasers, I assume you meant to send me to something else?

Wally, thanks for that pic, I could not find it before I posted. Shoot, that sure is simple when you see it. I was trying to use the lump on the casting that is mostly out of view from the pulley shaft in that picture.

So, now that I won't mess it up AGAIN, can I fix this one with a seal kit? or do they usually get messed up structurally?

And, I have read enough to get confused on the pulley removal/re-install that will have to happen for a rebuild or replace. Impact wrench, certain kind of puller, certain pusher that threads into shaft, wha?



1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath Raleigh, NC
Re: Power steering pump leak after belt tensioning [message #315585 is a reply to message #315582] Thu, 06 April 2017 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Pulley removal is accomplished using tool from Harbor Freight. Sometimes works better than the Snap-On on some vehicles. Was $9.99 on sale when I got it. DO NOT use an impact wrench with the tool, I don't care who made it. Lube it and make your muscles burn. There is a trick to using it, balancing the forces of 2 wrenches, you can figure it out.

The seal you violated is a big O-ring around the pump, and you probably dented or distorted the tank. You will have to remove the output fitting to remove the reservoir/tank. Then your metalforming skills will be tested, making it round again at the seal. The O-ring is probably ok, but I would use a new one from a kit even if that's the only thing I needed. Too much hassle trying to find one the right size unless you have an O-ring Guru in your neighborhood.


Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Power steering pump leak after belt tensioning [message #315589 is a reply to message #315585] Fri, 07 April 2017 07:09 Go to previous message
77Royale   United States
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When I replaced my pump last year, I used the loan a tool program at autozone. It was free, the tool worked fine, and that was the end of it. There is a specific puller just for power steering pulleys if I recall. I did not use an impact to free up the old pulley.



77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan

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