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Mon, 06 March 2017 09:43  |
Keith V
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Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that connects the control to the sensor?
I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
Thanks!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314179 is a reply to message #314142] |
Mon, 06 March 2017 18:07  |
Adrien G.
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Keith,
My link (adjustable) are set at 3.875 center to center.
Get the adjustable, there's not enough adjustment on the heigth valve arm
JMO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314188 is a reply to message #314142] |
Mon, 06 March 2017 20:23 |
lqqkatjon
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Keith,
Hard to measure behind the bogie/ tire where bottom mount.
I do not know how accurate you need to be, but i got a surprising 7.5 inches with my tape measure. Mine are of the oem non adjustable variety.
Jon Roche
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314207 is a reply to message #314142] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 08:33 |
Ken Henderson
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Keith,
To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM fixed
links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured their
center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
them.
Ken H.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
> connects the control to the sensor?
>
> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314209 is a reply to message #314207] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 08:52 |
Keith V
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Wow great responses!
I wonder why Jon shows 2.5" longer
Are all lengths the same?
Ken are all year links the same? I have power level valves.
And Bruce is right ride height sensor geometry is the last thing I need to do on my electronic controller.
The link lengths are different from OEM but I want to verify my setup. I have some adjustable links around here somewhere, but who knows where they are or what length they are set to
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Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:33:01 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
Keith,
To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM fixed
links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured their
center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
them.
Ken H.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
> connects the control to the sensor?
>
> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314214 is a reply to message #314209] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 10:45 |
Ken Henderson
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Keith,
I'm positive about my OEM links' length at 5.0". Keith's 3.875"
adjustables have probably been reset either to change ride height or to
compensate for changing the arm position, as described in the manual. I
can't imagine where Jon's 7.5" came from unless he measured the arm rather
than the link.
I don't know whether there is any link difference over the years. I've
never had anyone return my links, saying they didn't fit. I just tried to
find them in the 78Z parts book. I found them in an IPB, but with no
reference number nor part number. I still think they're all the same.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Wow great responses!
>
> I wonder why Jon shows 2.5" longer
>
> Are all lengths the same?
>
>
> Ken are all year links the same? I have power level valves.
>
>
> And Bruce is right ride height sensor geometry is the last thing I need to
> do on my electronic controller.
>
> The link lengths are different from OEM but I want to verify my setup. I
> have some adjustable links around here somewhere, but who knows where they
> are or what length they are set to
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
> Henderson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:33:01 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
>
> Keith,
>
> To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM fixed
> links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured their
> center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
>
> If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
> ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
> partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
> relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
> them.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
>
>> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
>> connects the control to the sensor?
>>
>> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314220 is a reply to message #314214] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 12:15 |
Keith V
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Thanks Ken, thats what I will use.
Bruce, yes the design criteria is maximum resolution at ride height and full suspension travel.
The cosine error increases as you move away from ride height
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:45:34 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
Keith,
I'm positive about my OEM links' length at 5.0". Keith's 3.875"
adjustables have probably been reset either to change ride height or to
compensate for changing the arm position, as described in the manual. I
can't imagine where Jon's 7.5" came from unless he measured the arm rather
than the link.
I don't know whether there is any link difference over the years. I've
never had anyone return my links, saying they didn't fit. I just tried to
find them in the 78Z parts book. I found them in an IPB, but with no
reference number nor part number. I still think they're all the same.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Wow great responses!
>
> I wonder why Jon shows 2.5" longer
>
> Are all lengths the same?
>
>
> Ken are all year links the same? I have power level valves.
>
>
> And Bruce is right ride height sensor geometry is the last thing I need to
> do on my electronic controller.
>
> The link lengths are different from OEM but I want to verify my setup. I
> have some adjustable links around here somewhere, but who knows where they
> are or what length they are set to
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
> Henderson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:33:01 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
>
> Keith,
>
> To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM fixed
> links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured their
> center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
>
> If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
> ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
> partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
> relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
> them.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
>
>> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
>> connects the control to the sensor?
>>
>> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314225 is a reply to message #314142] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 15:03 |
lqqkatjon
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I measures what i thought was end to end. I will get in there and get a better measurement and try to get a picture if what i am measuring.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314253 is a reply to message #314214] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 19:43 |
Kosier
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Ken,
Try part #4950793, item #38, page 14-11
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:45 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
> Keith,
>
> I'm positive about my OEM links' length at 5.0". Keith's 3.875"
> adjustables have probably been reset either to change ride height or to
> compensate for changing the arm position, as described in the manual. I
> can't imagine where Jon's 7.5" came from unless he measured the arm rather
> than the link.
>
> I don't know whether there is any link difference over the years. I've
> never had anyone return my links, saying they didn't fit. I just tried to
> find them in the 78Z parts book. I found them in an IPB, but with no
> reference number nor part number. I still think they're all the same.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Keith V wrote:
>
>> Wow great responses!
>>
>> I wonder why Jon shows 2.5" longer
>>
>> Are all lengths the same?
>>
>>
>> Ken are all year links the same? I have power level valves.
>>
>>
>> And Bruce is right ride height sensor geometry is the last thing I need
>> to
>> do on my electronic controller.
>>
>> The link lengths are different from OEM but I want to verify my setup. I
>> have some adjustable links around here somewhere, but who knows where
>> they
>> are or what length they are set to
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
>> Henderson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:33:01 AM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
>>
>> Keith,
>>
>> To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM
>> fixed
>> links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured
>> their
>> center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
>>
>> If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
>> ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
>> partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
>> relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
>> them.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
>>> connects the control to the sensor?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314255 is a reply to message #314214] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 20:42 |
Ken Henderson
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Keith,
One of our more erudite GMCNetters steered me to the parts manual listing
for the link. There are two listings, prior to 6V100868 and effective with
that number -- both for the same part. So apparently the 5.0" link was
installed on all coaches.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I'm positive about my OEM links' length at 5.0". Keith's 3.875"
> adjustables have probably been reset either to change ride height or to
> compensate for changing the arm position, as described in the manual. I
> can't imagine where Jon's 7.5" came from unless he measured the arm rather
> than the link.
>
> I don't know whether there is any link difference over the years. I've
> never had anyone return my links, saying they didn't fit. I just tried to
> find them in the 78Z parts book. I found them in an IPB, but with no
> reference number nor part number. I still think they're all the same.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Keith V wrote:
>
>> Wow great responses!
>>
>> I wonder why Jon shows 2.5" longer
>>
>> Are all lengths the same?
>>
>>
>> Ken are all year links the same? I have power level valves.
>>
>>
>> And Bruce is right ride height sensor geometry is the last thing I need
>> to do on my electronic controller.
>>
>> The link lengths are different from OEM but I want to verify my setup. I
>> have some adjustable links around here somewhere, but who knows where they
>> are or what length they are set to
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
>> Henderson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:33:01 AM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
>>
>> Keith,
>>
>> To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM fixed
>> links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured their
>> center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
>>
>> If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
>> ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
>> partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
>> relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
>> them.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
>>> connects the control to the sensor?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314257 is a reply to message #314255] |
Tue, 07 March 2017 22:55 |
Keith V
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oh wow it is there, I gave up when I didn't see it on the valve drawing.
Thanks, now to simulate the linkage [?]
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:42:47 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
Keith,
One of our more erudite GMCNetters steered me to the parts manual listing
for the link. There are two listings, prior to 6V100868 and effective with
that number -- both for the same part. So apparently the 5.0" link was
installed on all coaches.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I'm positive about my OEM links' length at 5.0". Keith's 3.875"
> adjustables have probably been reset either to change ride height or to
> compensate for changing the arm position, as described in the manual. I
> can't imagine where Jon's 7.5" came from unless he measured the arm rather
> than the link.
>
> I don't know whether there is any link difference over the years. I've
> never had anyone return my links, saying they didn't fit. I just tried to
> find them in the 78Z parts book. I found them in an IPB, but with no
> reference number nor part number. I still think they're all the same.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Keith V wrote:
>
>> Wow great responses!
>>
>> I wonder why Jon shows 2.5" longer
>>
>> Are all lengths the same?
>>
>>
>> Ken are all year links the same? I have power level valves.
>>
>>
>> And Bruce is right ride height sensor geometry is the last thing I need
>> to do on my electronic controller.
>>
>> The link lengths are different from OEM but I want to verify my setup. I
>> have some adjustable links around here somewhere, but who knows where they
>> are or what length they are set to
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
>> Henderson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:33:01 AM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length?
>>
>> Keith,
>>
>> To set my adjustable ride height links to the same length as the OEM fixed
>> links, I use a couple of those links as jigs. I've just re-measured their
>> center-to-center lengths: 5.0"
>>
>> If you're going to Shawnee, I'll have the FINAL 10 sets of my adjustable
>> ride height links available. The parts arrived today to finish up the
>> partials I had on hand when I declared "no more". I gave JimK all the
>> relevant part numbers and instruction; I think he's planning to produce
>> them.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Keith V wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone measure the length of the lower link, i.e. the link that
>>> connects the control to the sensor?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to do some geometry and I don't have the lower links.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ride height sensor link length? [message #314297 is a reply to message #314172] |
Wed, 08 March 2017 21:16 |
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k2gkk wrote on Mon, 06 March 2017 16:56I bought adjustable links from Dave Lenzi.
Mac in OKC
'76 ex PB
Just got a new adjustable set from Dave today. Cheaper than I could buy and assemble similar quality parts from McMaster Carr. The original fixed links were 5" center to center.
JP
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