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[GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 13:36 Go to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Hi folks, I have had it with Frontier phone service. Ever since they took over from Verizon it has been one issue after another. I’m looking to go with a VOIP service such as Magic Jack or Vonage. Any insights on these two or others would be much appreciated.

thanks

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311765 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Worobec wrote on Mon, 02 January 2017 14:36
Hi folks, I have had it with Frontier phone service. Ever since they took over from Verizon it has been one issue after another. I'm looking to go with a VOIP service such as Magic Jack or Vonage. Any insights on these two or others would be much appreciated.

thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
Anza, CA
1973 Glacier 23

Gary,

For a long time, our wired phone was on a VOIP service that started out as "SunRocket" or some such thing, and later became 8X8. I think it is still 8x8.
Line quality was always good. Cost was always good. The only reason we went with our current broadband supplier was that cost was the same and billing was simpler. Every time Charter raises the VOIP cost, I call 8x8 to get an new quote and then Charter matches it. That is the only reason we have not gone back.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311766 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Currently using Ring Central for the business and http://itpvoip.com/ for home.

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> On Jan 2, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Gary Worobec wrote:
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> Hi folks, I have had it with Frontier phone service. Ever since they took over from Verizon it has been one issue after another. I’m looking to go with a VOIP service such as Magic Jack or Vonage. Any insights on these two or others would be much appreciated.
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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311768 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ooma. I've been with their residential service for almost 10 years. We added their commercial, small biz service at one of the businesses about 2 yrs ago. Love 'em both.

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311769 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder, if and why one still needs a landline these days.

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311771 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Worobec wrote on Mon, 02 January 2017 13:36
Hi folks, I have had it with Frontier phone service. Ever since they took over from Verizon it has been one issue after another. I'm looking to go with a VOIP service such as Magic Jack or Vonage. Any insights on these two or others would be much appreciated.

thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
Anza, CA
1973 Glacier 23
I have Vonage. My sister had a MagicJack. Her ISP seemed to take deliberate steps to keep it from working. The last one was limiting her speed to no more than her plan covered. Rather than upgrade her internet service, she gave up on the MagicJack and got a StraightTalk cell phone.

I have Vonage because I only have to pay about $20 per month for what AT&T would charge more than $60 per month. I have considered Ooma, but, like MagicJack, I don't know how their business plan will accommodate market saturation. That is, once their sales of new units slows, their revenue stream won't sustain their infrastructure. Vonage is probably the most expensive of the VoIP services, but still better than throwing money away on the phone company's landline. And their business plan is viable.

GMC content: One feature of Vonage is you can redirect all incoming calls to your cell phone when you are RV'ing. And you can get Visual Voice Mail (speech converted to text) and check voice mail anywhere you can get email.
Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311774 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viatalk for about 10 years now. Love the control panel and call routing
options.

On Mon, January 2, 2017 2:36 pm, Gary Worobec wrote:
> Hi folks, I have had it with Frontier phone service. Ever since they took
> over from Verizon it has been one issue after another. I’m looking to go
> with a VOIP service such as Magic Jack or Vonage. Any insights on these
> two or others would be much appreciated.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311775 is a reply to message #311769] Mon, 02 January 2017 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, January 2, 2017 4:22 pm, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC wrote:
> I wonder, if and why one still needs a landline these days.

To cut down on the garbage calls to my cell phone.

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311777 is a reply to message #311775] Mon, 02 January 2017 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SKYPE. I have been using this for years. Basically, Skype has three levels of service: Skype to Skype, cost is free, Skype out, cost is $30, Skype in and out, $100. All costs are per year. With Skype in and out, you get a number that people can call (two way traffic). With Skype out, you do not have a number that can be called. Caller ID will generally show a number, but that number does not tie to you and does not accept incoming phone calls. Skype is encrypted end to end. Shows only as a digital stream to your ISP.
I use Skype for all my outgoing calls. Provides service to the entire US and Canada. Great for calling those numbers that tend to put you on hold.
Link to Skype is included with Windows 10 distribution. Servers operating Skype are in Luxembourg, out of reach for court action.
You must have an internet connection and microphone/speaker on your computer. Also does video, if you have a camera.
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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311778 is a reply to message #311771] Mon, 02 January 2017 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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very helpful, thank you
> On Jan 2, 2017, at 1:38 PM, A. wrote:
>
> Gary Worobec wrote on Mon, 02 January 2017 13:36
>> Hi folks, I have had it with Frontier phone service. Ever since they took over from Verizon it has been one issue after another. I'm looking to go
>> with a VOIP service such as Magic Jack or Vonage. Any insights on these two or others would be much appreciated.
>>
>> thanks
>> Gary and Joanne Worobec
>> Anza, CA
>> 1973 Glacier 23
> I have Vonage. My sister had a MagicJack. Her ISP seemed to take deliberate steps to keep it from working. The last one was limiting her speed to no
> more than her plan covered. Rather than upgrade her internet service, she gave up on the MagicJack and got a StraightTalk cell phone.
>
> I have Vonage because I only have to pay about $20 per month for what AT&T would charge more than $60 per month. I have considered Ooma, but, like
> MagicJack, I don't know how their business plan will accommodate market saturation. That is, once their sales of new units slows, their revenue stream
> won't sustain their infrastructure. Vonage is probably the most expensive of the VoIP services, but still better than throwing money away on the phone
> company's landline. And their business plan is viable.
>
> GMC content: One feature of Vonage is you can redirect all incoming calls to your cell phone when you are RV'ing. And you can get Visual Voice Mail
> (speech converted to text) and check voice mail anywhere you can get email.
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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311783 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had OOMA for a time a few years back. It didn't work too well. The problem was that I was on a business internet connection from Comcast. Although the speed was g00d (25 Mb), the latency was all over the place (from 15 ms up to 70ms)which is a problem for VOIP. This results in broken up words, stuttering, etc., which drove my wife nuts. Maybe OOMA has implemented a solution to this by now.

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311784 is a reply to message #311763] Mon, 02 January 2017 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In some areas, when the power goes off for a while, the cell towers are
dead, and you won't have a way to call in the power failure for your
location.

ronc

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311785 is a reply to message #311784] Tue, 03 January 2017 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<rallymaster wrote on Mon, 02 January 2017 23:44
In some areas, when the power goes off for a while, the cell towers are dead, and you won't have a way to call in the power failure for your location.
ronc
Cell towers, like the central office, have battery backup that lasts for hours, up to a day or so. You have plenty of time to call the power company.

The only "real" reason for a landline could be 911 calls. If you call from a landline, the location is immediately known. With a cell phone, you have to know where you are, and be coherent enough, to convey that to the 911 attendant.
Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311786 is a reply to message #311784] Tue, 03 January 2017 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ron,

> In some areas, when the power goes off for a while, the cell towers are
> dead, and you won't have a way to call in the power failure for your
> location.
>

Does the internet still work during those instances? (I always forget
that the power infrastructure in the US is only slightly better than any
3rd world country)

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311787 is a reply to message #311784] Tue, 03 January 2017 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I kept my land lines here in Sydney for my ADSL service.

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In some areas, when the power goes off for a while, the cell towers are
dead, and you won't have a way to call in the power failure for your
location.

ronc

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311794 is a reply to message #311763] Tue, 03 January 2017 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day, Peer
It would depend on the location and power source for the internet
connection.

Our internet is slooow satellite, and it usually works for a while,
sometime during the day, whether the local power is on or off.
If your internet is through DSL on your landline, it would probably still
be available.
If it's from your cable company, I have no idea.

I used the G'day salutation because it covers any time zone, and I don't
know where you are now.
Ron

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> ron,
>
>> In some areas, when the power goes off for a while, the cell
> towers are
>> dead, and you won't have a way to call in the power failure for
> your
>> location.
>>
>
> Does the internet still work during those instances? (I always
> forget
> that the power infrastructure in the US is only slightly better than
> any
> 3rd world country)
>
> --
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311795 is a reply to message #311794] Tue, 03 January 2017 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Ron,
> Our internet is slooow satellite

do you have internet over satellite both ways? ie. sending and receiving
using the dish? I had people use Internet for the download link and use
dial-up for the upload link. They were glad to have fairly quick
download speeds, albeit fairly high lag.

The DSL that is in use in Germland (and that I came in contact with in
France, Italy and Britain), didn't work without local power. The DSLAM
needs power, or so the telecom company told me.

Oh, and to get back on-topic: I know of two other people that really
like their Skype setups as their landline replacements.

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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311797 is a reply to message #311795] Tue, 03 January 2017 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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VOIP and VPN generally won't work with satellite internet services.

DSL generally has the same reliability as the incumbent telco. Cable here is terrific, but they also have disrupted the local telco (Frontier).

You know is bad when people prefer dealing with Comcast customer service!

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> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC wrote:
>
> Hello Ron,
>> Our internet is slooow satellite
>
> do you have internet over satellite both ways? ie. sending and receiving
> using the dish? I had people use Internet for the download link and use
> dial-up for the upload link. They were glad to have fairly quick
> download speeds, albeit fairly high lag.
>
> The DSL that is in use in Germland (and that I came in contact with in
> France, Italy and Britain), didn't work without local power. The DSLAM
> needs power, or so the telecom company told me.
>
> Oh, and to get back on-topic: I know of two other people that really
> like their Skype setups as their landline replacements.
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311798 is a reply to message #311763] Tue, 03 January 2017 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We had Vonage for years in 3 different homes. Never had a problem with it. But a couple years ago I was doing something that involved me unplugging a VOIP phone and I was trying to remember the last time I had used it. I couldn't remember and asked my wife. She didn't know either. We decided at that point even $20 a month, or whatever they were charging at the time, wasn't worth it. We've used only our cellphones ever since.

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] OFF TOPIC- VOIP services [message #311799 is a reply to message #311769] Tue, 03 January 2017 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I used to live near Gary. Anza, California is one of those places where cell coverage is still dodgy -- and probably ways will be because of the terrain.


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I wonder, if and why one still needs a landline these days.

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