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> 1. Re: Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper Alabama
> region (Espen Heitmann)
> 2. Re: Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper Alabama
> region (Espen Heitmann)
> 3. Re: Trip Report (Johnny Bridges)
> 4. Re: Do our coaches have a gas tank drain plug? (Johnny Bridges)
> 5. Re: Gmclist Digest, Vol 100, Issue 82 (Johnny Bridges)
> 6. Re: Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper Alabama
> region (Jeremy)
> 7. Re: Trip Report (Jeremy)
> 8. Re: Do our coaches have a gas tank drain plug? (Matt Colie)
> 9. Re: Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper Alabama
> region (A.)
> 10. Re: Gmclist Digest, Vol 100, Issue 82 (Matt Colie)
> 11. Re: Do our coaches have a gas tank drain plug? (A.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 05:15:48 -0700
> From: Espen Heitmann
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper
> Alabama region
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> A Hamilto wrote on Sat, 19 November 2016 03:23
>> jknezek wrote on Fri, 18 November 2016 19:37
>>> I gave a set of ugly old ones to Ahamlito a few years back. Not sure if he found a use for them but worth a check since he is in that area.
>> They are either at the bottom of the junk the CFO keeps in my storage shed, or I gave them to Devin Wells in 2013. I traded him the seats and
>> pedestals and the dinette from my Sequoia for the jack-knife sofa. I have Odyssey seats and different year model pedestals in the Sequoia now.
>>
>> Devin dismantled a 1973 Sequoia in Altoona, AL about the same time so he had 4 seats and 4 pedestals. I haven't heard from him in over two years,
>> so I don't know if he is still talking to us. He hasn't answered the email note or the text message I sent him. The phone number I have for him
>> might be wrong.
>
>
> Well if you had a grease/oil spot on the drivers seat so are they in Norway now ;)
> --
> 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Mean Green Machine,
> And just sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt tr?bbel
> in Norway
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 05:37:02 -0700
> From: Espen Heitmann
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper
> Alabama region
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> And as far as I remember so where the two in the parts Sequoia in really bad shape, I bought a lot of items from it and Devin, I guess I have your old
> dinette table to, i might find some pictures if anyone is interested.
> --
> 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Mean Green Machine,
> And just sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt tr?bbel
> in Norway
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 06:51:43 -0700
> From: Johnny Bridges
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report
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> Sandra, yall will get a chance to meet IRL (in real life) next August in Dillard.
>
> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 06:57:46 -0700
> From: Johnny Bridges
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do our coaches have a gas tank drain plug?
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> Well, I've learnt something else. Fortunately when I tape a joint, I keep the tape to about half the threads, and never lap it over the bottom of the
> fitting for the reasons noted. I'm gonna go to the Permatex product though and save the teflon tape for home plumbing.
>
> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 07:00:38 -0700
> From: Johnny Bridges
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gmclist Digest, Vol 100, Issue 82
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> I saw the 75 ft-lbs. I looked the bolts up in McMaster-Carr's catalog, they give the tensile strength at 170,000 pounds. I expect you'd bust the
> flange or unthread it before you broke the bolt. Anyway, 75 ft-lbs and a drop of blue Loc-Tite and they ought to stay put.
>
> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 07:03:06 -0700
> From: Jeremy
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper
> Alabama region
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Loffen wrote on Mon, 21 November 2016 07:37
>> And as far as I remember so where the two in the parts Sequoia in really bad shape, I bought a lot of items from it and Devin, I guess I have your
>> old dinette table to, i might find some pictures if anyone is interested.
>
>
>
> Yeah. That old Sequoia was in rough shape. I went up one day and helped him pull some parts. I have the ladder off it, haven't got around to replacing
> mine yet. I just remember getting stung by about 2 dozen wasps when I reached under the counter to get at a screw and broke through a nest.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 07:08:38 -0700
> From: Jeremy
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report
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> USAussie wrote on Sun, 20 November 2016 21:23
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> I think it's great the experiences you are providing to your children, you're one heck of a Dad!
>>
>> When Helen and I visited DC we stayed at the Cherry Hill RV Park:
>>
>> https://www.cherryhillpark.com/
>>
>> There is public transport into DC.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>> USAussie - Downunder
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> That is the one on the Maryland side. A lot more convenient but, like I said, it would have added a lot of driving time to our trip to loop around
> from the NW to the NE of D.C. I wouldn't necessarily recommend Lake Fairfax, but it was about as convenient as you are likely to get on the NW side.
>
> Thanks Rob. It was a good trip. Kids really enjoyed it except for the second long day home. I think my daughter will keep the memories, I doubt the
> boys will. We will have to return to D.C. when they are older and can appreciate it more. I think my parents took me 3x, of course we were a lot
> closer!
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:01:34 -0700
> From: Matt Colie
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do our coaches have a gas tank drain plug?
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> My best guess would be that I have disagreed with Ken Burton twice in the last decade, and I can't remember (and don't choose to) the first time.
>
> In this application I would not use any of the older Permatex family. Ken can use it in aircraft because avefuel does not contain any alcohol of any
> type. Permatex 1, 2 & 3 all have some solubility in alcohol. It is different with different alcohols but ethyl* and methyl* are very real. This
> killed a lot of 2-stoke engines with the introduction of alcohol in motor fuels, but I won't go into that in great detail here and now.
>
> I would use teflon tape or a teflon loaded pipe thread sealant.
>
> If I were to use a thread sealant, I would (as demonstrated in a study by the ASTM Sealing System Group) apply it to the female thread and the male
> thread both. It was suggested that applying it to the male thread is solely for the purpose of allowing an inspector to confirm that a sealant was
> applied. When applied to the male thread it is only a slight improvement over a light lubricating oil. The sealant will be scraped off as the
> fittings are assembled. But, if the first two threads of the female are loaded (not even a 100% fill) the sealant will be carried into the joint
> during assembly and can even in some cases form an interior bead. This also means that the appropriate thread sealant be used for the service and
> that is why this is less popular with trade plumbers.
>
> I would (I believe I did many of the times I have had my tanks down - other long stories) use teflon tape - plain white - The tape was the width of
> the threads on the plug and I would use about 1 & 1/2 turns wrapped in the thread direction. This will prevent water or alcohol intrusion from both
> the top (inside the tank) and the bottom (road salt). In this fashion, there is a better than even chance that when you (or some SO) want to drain
> the tanks again, that plug might be useful. There will be no loose teflon to foul things.
>
> Unlike the KenB's airplane story, our fuel systems are different. We have a "sock" on the fuel pick up and there is a fine filter at the carburetor
> inlet (if it exists) and many have an added filter along the way. If you have fuel injection of almost any type, debris filters should have been
> included.
>
> I kind of hate to include any more negative comments about Permatex, I use it to advantage and have seldom had problems that I did not cause, but
> there is one that I remember well. Another story not for here/now, but "non-hardening" does not mean never hardening. If it is a screw thread that
> you might ever have to disassemble, you may find that after a few years it has become what I would call hard, quite hard.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:08:04 -0700
> From: A.
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wanted: Original cockpit seats 73-74 - Upper
> Alabama region
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Loffen wrote on Mon, 21 November 2016 06:15
>> A Hamilto wrote on Sat, 19 November 2016 03:23
>>> jknezek wrote on Fri, 18 November 2016 19:37
>>>> I gave a set of ugly old ones to Ahamlito a few years back. Not sure if he found a use for them but worth a check since he is in that
>>>> area.
>>> They are either at the bottom of the junk the CFO keeps in my storage shed, or I gave them to Devin Wells in 2013. I traded him the seats and
>>> pedestals and the dinette from my Sequoia for the jack-knife sofa. I have Odyssey seats and different year model pedestals in the Sequoia now.
>>>
>>> Devin dismantled a 1973 Sequoia in Altoona, AL about the same time so he had 4 seats and 4 pedestals. I haven't heard from him in over two
>>> years, so I don't know if he is still talking to us. He hasn't answered the email note or the text message I sent him. The phone number I have for
>>> him might be wrong.
>> Well if you had a grease/oil spot on the drivers seat so are they in Norway now ;)
> The two that came from my Sequoia were clean. Devin must have taken the ones out of the Sequoia in Altoona and sent those to you. If he didn't send
> you four OEM cockpit seats, then the two out of my Sequoia are still in the U.S. someplace (maybe a landfill).
> --
> 73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
> 73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
> Upper Alabama
> "Highest price does not guarantee highest quality."
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:08:56 -0700
> From: Matt Colie
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gmclist Digest, Vol 100, Issue 82
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 21 November 2016 09:00
>> I saw the 75 ft-lbs. I looked the bolts up in McMaster-Carr's catalog, they give the tensile strength at 170,000 pounds. I expect you'd bust the
>> flange or unthread it before you broke the bolt. Anyway, 75 ft-lbs and a drop of blue Loc-Tite and they ought to stay put.
>>
>> --johnny
>
> As I am slightly paranoid (notice, old and paranoid), I wanted to cross drill them for safety wire.
> Short answer: Not Happenin Jack.....
> They are hard. They also go with hardened lockwashers. I didn't remember those, but Blain has them by part number.
>
> I would still like to have some mechanical keeper there.
>
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:18:06 -0700
> From: A.
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do our coaches have a gas tank drain plug?
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Matt Colie wrote on Mon, 21 November 2016 10:01
>> ...In this application I would not use any of the older Permatex family. ... Permatex 1, 2 & 3 all have some solubility in alcohol. It is
>> different with different alcohols but ethyl* and methyl* are very real. This killed a lot of 2-stoke engines with the introduction of alcohol in
>> motor fuels, but I won't go into that in great detail here and now.
>>
>> I would use teflon tape or a teflon loaded pipe thread sealant. ...
> I know the old formulations of Permatex would dissolve in alcohol. I guess the aviaton stuff probably still will.
>
> If Matt Colie says the white Teflon tape is ok, it is ok. So that's what I will use from now on.
> --
> 73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
> 73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
> Upper Alabama
> "Highest price does not guarantee highest quality."
>
>
>
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