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LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310275] Sat, 12 November 2016 16:32 Go to next message
Jim Schulte is currently offline  Jim Schulte   United States
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Renewing wiring on a 1977 23 ft Birchaven

Thinking of all exterior lighting to LED except headlights and adding DRL

Plan - replace flasher ( only one on this coach) with a electronic one
LEDs will be non polarity sensitive
Install a DRL-1
Include out side upper clearance light in parallel with side clearance light on front
Wire rear upper clearance light and side light as the front is wired - front is wired
Turn on - side off
Turn off - side on

Hoped for result
Engine on all running lights on

Turn signal on
Directional light flash
Side clearance lights flash
Top out board clearance light flash

Will this work? Jim

Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310278 is a reply to message #310275] Sat, 12 November 2016 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Jim Schulte wrote on Sat, 12 November 2016 16:32
Renewing wiring on a 1977 23 ft Birchaven
Thinking of all exterior lighting to LED except headlights and adding DRL

Plan - replace flasher ( only one on this coach) with a electronic one
LEDs will be non polarity sensitive
Install a DRL-1
Include out side upper clearance light in parallel with side clearance light on front
Wire rear upper clearance light and side light as the front is wired - front is wired
Turn on - side off
Turn off - side on

Hoped for result
Engine on all running lights on

Turn signal on
Directional light flash
Side clearance lights flash
Top out board clearance light flash

Will this work? Jim
It will take some wire runs, but is doable. As long as the top outside clearance light flashes with the turn signal, why not make the top center three red rear clearance lights brighten with the brake lights (will need to replace the sockets with double filament types and run some wires)?
Re: [GMCnet] LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310279 is a reply to message #310275] Sat, 12 November 2016 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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You had better check state laws. When I once lived in NJ it was illegal to have any flashing light on the top
Such as a flashing clearance light used as a turn signal. I don't know if that law is still in effect there.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:32 PM, James Schulte wrote:
>
> Renewing wiring on a 1977 23 ft Birchaven
>
> Thinking of all exterior lighting to LED except headlights and adding DRL
>
> Plan - replace flasher ( only one on this coach) with a electronic one
> LEDs will be non polarity sensitive
> Install a DRL-1
> Include out side upper clearance light in parallel with side clearance light on front
> Wire rear upper clearance light and side light as the front is wired - front is wired
> Turn on - side off
> Turn off - side on
>
> Hoped for result
> Engine on all running lights on
>
> Turn signal on
> Directional light flash
> Side clearance lights flash
> Top out board clearance light flash
>
> Will this work? Jim
>
>
>
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Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310286 is a reply to message #310275] Sun, 13 November 2016 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Post us a link to those "non-polarity sensitive" LEDs...they would come in handy for some reverse wired applications.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310299 is a reply to message #310286] Sun, 13 November 2016 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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JR Wright posted a link to Luxor on the other thread that has the non-polarity LEDs.

http://luxormarine-rv.com/LuxOr_Digest.pdf

The pdf did not have links for my browser so I just removed that part to go directly to the selling site.


Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310309 is a reply to message #310275] Sun, 13 November 2016 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Do it yourself" non-polarized LEDs... or anything else DC. Simply acquire a bridge rectifier, or assemble four diodes in a bridge configuration, of sufficient current capacity and reverse voltage for the load and supply intended. Feed your unknown polarity DC (Or AC) into the "AC" terminals, and connect the LED or other load properly to the + and - terminals. Voila! No longer polarity sensitive. I bought several hundred 1N series silicon diodes for about 3 cents each off ebay.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310311 is a reply to message #310275] Sun, 13 November 2016 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quick and dirty running lights - series several diodes, and feed the low beams through them from an ignition source. The junction drop is a bit over half a volt per diode, and the current reduces accordingly. Although they're lit, they will be overpowered by the high beams or regular power to the low beams, so the circuit can be left connected without switches or anything else. If I were going to do this, I'd take my trusty VOM and measure the voltage across a GM auto headlight in DRL mode. A bit of arithmetic would give the necessary drop and current. I like diodes.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310312 is a reply to message #310309] Sun, 13 November 2016 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My trusty Fluke 77 tells me polarity of D.C. circuits. Very handy for LEDs,
and polarity sensitive circuits. GMCs, particularly Coachman up fitted
ones, are notorious for lighting circuits being bas-akwards. I never assume
they are correct, I check them all.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Nov 13, 2016 5:06 PM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> "Do it yourself" non-polarized LEDs... or anything else DC. Simply
> acquire a bridge rectifier, or assemble four diodes in a bridge
> configuration, of
> sufficient current capacity and reverse voltage for the load and supply
> intended. Feed your unknown polarity DC (Or AC) into the "AC" terminals,
> and
> connect the LED or other load properly to the + and - terminals. Voila!
> No longer polarity sensitive. I bought several hundred 1N series silicon
> diodes for about 3 cents each off ebay.
>
> --johnny
>
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and
> add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
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Re: [GMCnet] LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310324 is a reply to message #310311] Mon, 14 November 2016 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or use this FREE gmc meter
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-chemicals-and-tools/p46162-digital-voltmeter.html


On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:28 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Quick and dirty running lights - series several diodes, and feed the low
> beams through them from an ignition source. The junction drop is a bit over
> half a volt per diode, and the current reduces accordingly. Although
> they're lit, they will be overpowered by the high beams or regular power to
> the
> low beams, so the circuit can be left connected without switches or
> anything else. If I were going to do this, I'd take my trusty VOM and
> measure the
> voltage across a GM auto headlight in DRL mode. A bit of arithmetic would
> give the necessary drop and current. I like diodes.
>
> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and
> add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
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Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310331 is a reply to message #310275] Mon, 14 November 2016 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Somebody with a GMC auto with DRLs how's to measure the voltage applied to the headlights in DRL mode with the engine running and report back. I got old ford, newer Mopar and Kia, no DRLs.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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Re: LED DRL Exterior wiring [message #310346 is a reply to message #310331] Mon, 14 November 2016 18:28 Go to previous message
Jim Schulte is currently offline  Jim Schulte   United States
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I checked with the State Highway Patrol and they had no problem with upper clearance lights as a part of the turn signal system. But I did discover the flaw in my plan, the upper clearance light which are installed are polarity sensitive so am not sure they will blink if wired in parallel with the side clearance light.

I just ordered the other bulbs and they will be not be polarity sensitive. Ordered from Super Bright led's - just google the for the web site

The DRL's - My intention is to just light the all clearance light upper and side and front and rear parking lights.

Jim
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