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Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309269] Mon, 24 October 2016 09:45 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??

I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back yard.
After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove the whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone else.

Thanks

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309275 is a reply to message #309269] Mon, 24 October 2016 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Matt,

If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the floor.

I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
removable leveling switch panel.

Ken H.


On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie wrote:

> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>
> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
> yard.
> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove the
> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone else.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
> --
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> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309276 is a reply to message #309275] Mon, 24 October 2016 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Matt,
Here is the pictures on how to get to the bolts on the booster.


and


John
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
> firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
> bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the floor.
>
> I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
> removable leveling switch panel.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>>
>> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
>> yard.
>> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove the
>> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
>> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone else.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309277 is a reply to message #309276] Mon, 24 October 2016 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Read here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/booster.htm

On Monday, October 24, 2016, John Wright wrote:

> Matt,
> Here is the pictures on how to get to the bolts on the booster.
>
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
> and
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
>
> John
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ken Henderson > wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
>> firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
>> bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the
> floor.
>>
>> I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
>> removable leveling switch panel.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie > wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>>>
>>> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
>>> yard.
>>> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove
> the
>>> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
>>> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone
> else.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control
> Arms
>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309278 is a reply to message #309276] Mon, 24 October 2016 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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The upper two fasteners can be accessed by removing the instrument bezel,
heater controls, and radio. More of a tedious exercise than a difficult
one. Done a few of them. Early coaches can be accessed by removing the
leveling controls. Not a fun job by any means, either way.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Oct 24, 2016 8:02 AM, "John Wright" wrote:

> Matt,
> Here is the pictures on how to get to the bolts on the booster.
>
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
> and
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
>
> John
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
>> firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
>> bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the
> floor.
>>
>> I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
>> removable leveling switch panel.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie
> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>>>
>>> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
>>> yard.
>>> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove
> the
>>> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
>>> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone
> else.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control
> Arms
>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
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Re: Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309286 is a reply to message #309269] Mon, 24 October 2016 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emailed you Matt, I did mine from underneath with a few careful relief cuts.



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Re: Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309300 is a reply to message #309269] Mon, 24 October 2016 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Matt,
I got to frustrated with trying to get those top two bolts out, so I cut a hole in the dash big enough to get my hand through. Then made a friction fit plug for the hole. Fastened a piece larger than the hole to the plug and upolstered it to match the Dash. Now when I need to get at those 4 bolts, I pull the friction fit plug, and loosen them with a 3/8 drive ratchet and stick my hand in here and finger back them out. The plug looks like it belongs. Works for me. JWID


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309320 is a reply to message #309278] Mon, 24 October 2016 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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you can get at them from the inside laying on the floor by the accel pedal and reaching in above the 2 bols that were openened up with the removal of a piece of dash....inside the booster is a rubber diaphrame....this can be replaced by a reputable brake shop...so you have all the same parts as before.....brian 77ele 455 near wpg


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From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
Sent: October 24, 2016 9:11 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78

The upper two fasteners can be accessed by removing the instrument bezel,
heater controls, and radio. More of a tedious exercise than a difficult
one. Done a few of them. Early coaches can be accessed by removing the
leveling controls. Not a fun job by any means, either way.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Oct 24, 2016 8:02 AM, "John Wright" wrote:

> Matt,
> Here is the pictures on how to get to the bolts on the booster.
>
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
> and
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
>
> John
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
>> firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
>> bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the
> floor.
>>
>> I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
>> removable leveling switch panel.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie
> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>>>
>>> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
>>> yard.
>>> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove
> the
>>> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
>>> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone
> else.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control
> Arms
>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309321 is a reply to message #309278] Mon, 24 October 2016 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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WHAT??????you can reach in there on a 77 ele....brian 77 ele


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From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
Sent: October 24, 2016 9:11 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78

The upper two fasteners can be accessed by removing the instrument bezel,
heater controls, and radio. More of a tedious exercise than a difficult
one. Done a few of them. Early coaches can be accessed by removing the
leveling controls. Not a fun job by any means, either way.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Oct 24, 2016 8:02 AM, "John Wright" wrote:

> Matt,
> Here is the pictures on how to get to the bolts on the booster.
>
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
> and
> brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
>
> John
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
>> firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
>> bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the
> floor.
>>
>> I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
>> removable leveling switch panel.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie
> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>>>
>>> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
>>> yard.
>>> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove
> the
>>> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
>>> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone
> else.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control
> Arms
>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309331 is a reply to message #309321] Mon, 24 October 2016 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Yes
I've done it on my 77 Kingsley.
If I remember right I used a u-joint on my socket wrench.
Emery Stora

> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Brian Waddell wrote:
>
> WHAT??????you can reach in there on a 77 ele....brian 77 ele
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
> Sent: October 24, 2016 9:11 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78
>
> The upper two fasteners can be accessed by removing the instrument bezel,
> heater controls, and radio. More of a tedious exercise than a difficult
> one. Done a few of them. Early coaches can be accessed by removing the
> leveling controls. Not a fun job by any means, either way.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
>> On Oct 24, 2016 8:02 AM, "John Wright" wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>> Here is the pictures on how to get to the bolts on the booster.
>>
>> > brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
>> and
>> > brake-booster-nuts-in-2777-and-2778-gmcs.html>
>>
>> John
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> If you carefully cut away the plastic of the dash where it joins the
>>> firewall horizontally beneath the booster, you can reach the lower two
>>> bolts. The missing plastic isn't obvious unless you're laying on the
>> floor.
>>>
>>> I don't remember how you get to the upper two bolts on the 77-78 w/o the
>>> removable leveling switch panel.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Matt Colie
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anybody know a practical method to remove the booster from a '78??
>>>>
>>>> I have been tasked to remove the booster of the parts coach in my back
>>>> yard.
>>>> After a very short appraisal, this looks like I either have to remove
>> the
>>>> whole instrument panel or bore holes in it.
>>>> I am trying to not destroy any parts that may be of value to someone
>> else.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>> --
>>>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control
>> Arms
>>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Remove the brake booster from a '78 [message #309348 is a reply to message #309331] Mon, 24 October 2016 22:29 Go to previous message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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emerystora wrote on Mon, 24 October 2016 19:44
Yes
I've done it on my 77 Kingsley.
If I remember right I used a u-joint on my socket wrench.
Emery Stora



Same here. I was able to replace the booster on my 1976 Palm Beach WITHOUT having to cut anything. As I remember I used 1/4" drive u-joint socket and also an appropriate size 12 point box end.


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