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[GMCnet] Power steering pulley removal [message #308991] Tue, 18 October 2016 10:38 Go to next message
Advanced Concept Ener is currently offline  Advanced Concept Ener   United States
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Success!! I bought Northern Tool set for pulley removal. Heated and quenched with PB blaster a few times. Watched the utube videos, including the guy that ruined his pulley. I had to use my electric impact wrench but it finally came off. Thank you everyone for your ideas and information. Now I have to wait for delivery from Applied.
Are there any secrets to getting the air out of the system? Now I just have to install new high capacity water pump, new plastic fan and clutch, new self exciting 140 amp alternator, new isolator/ combiner combo, voltage regulator for Stewart warner temperature gauges, new voltage limiter for my radio and backup cam that burned out and I will be ready to drive it again. These machines are a labor of love.
Thank you again everyone!

Jon Darcy ACES
North Jersey 76 stretch, flares, 4 bag, Alcoa's, bunkhouse,MAC Dash,Manny Trans, FiTech FI,Honda 6010

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Re: [GMCnet] Power steering pulley removal [message #308999 is a reply to message #308991] Tue, 18 October 2016 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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If you are putting in a 140 amp alternator you should increase the wire size from the alternator to the isolator/combiner. You can do a larger wire or add another wire in parallel with the existing one.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Advanced Concept Energy Solutions wrote:
>
> Success!! I bought Northern Tool set for pulley removal. Heated and quenched with PB blaster a few times. Watched the utube videos, including the guy that ruined his pulley. I had to use my electric impact wrench but it finally came off. Thank you everyone for your ideas and information. Now I have to wait for delivery from Applied.
> Are there any secrets to getting the air out of the system? Now I just have to install new high capacity water pump, new plastic fan and clutch, new self exciting 140 amp alternator, new isolator/ combiner combo, voltage regulator for Stewart warner temperature gauges, new voltage limiter for my radio and backup cam that burned out and I will be ready to drive it again. These machines are a labor of love.
> Thank you again everyone!
>
> Jon Darcy ACES
> North Jersey 76 stretch, flares, 4 bag, Alcoa's, bunkhouse,MAC Dash,Manny Trans, FiTech FI,Honda 6010
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Re: [GMCnet] Power steering pulley removal [message #309007 is a reply to message #308991] Tue, 18 October 2016 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Advanced Concept Ener wrote on Tue, 18 October 2016 11:38
Success!! I bought Northern Tool set for pulley removal. Heated and quenched with PB blaster a few times. Watched the utube videos, including the guy that ruined his pulley. I had to use my electric impact wrench but it finally came off. Thank you everyone for your ideas and information. Now I have to wait for delivery from Applied.
Are there any secrets to getting the air out of the system? Now I just have to install new high capacity water pump, new plastic fan and clutch, new self exciting 140 amp alternator, new isolator/ combiner combo, voltage regulator for Stewart warner temperature gauges, new voltage limiter for my radio and backup cam that burned out and I will be ready to drive it again. These machines are a labor of love.
Thank you again everyone!

Jon Darcy ACES
North Jersey 76 stretch, flares, 4 bag, Alcoa's, bunkhouse,MAC Dash,Manny Trans, FiTech FI,Honda 6010

Jon,

Most alternators listed as "self exciting" have no remote sense capability. In such case, the isolator will be an imposition to effective charging and the combiner had better be able to carry the total load.

The secret to getting the air out of the power steering is to cycle the system. To do this easily, either park the front on sand or old magazines (no joke) and swing the box through its full travel lots of times.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Power steering pulley removal [message #309008 is a reply to message #308991] Tue, 18 October 2016 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rootesrefuge is currently offline  rootesrefuge   United States
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Advanced Concept Ener wrote on Tue, 18 October 2016 10:38
Success!! I bought Northern Tool set for pulley removal. Heated and quenched with PB blaster a few times. Watched the utube videos, including the guy that ruined his pulley. I had to use my electric impact wrench but it finally came off. Thank you everyone for your ideas and information. Now I have to wait for delivery from Applied.
Are there any secrets to getting the air out of the system?



Most importantly is did the removal tool come with an installation tool? The pulley must NOT be pressed onto the pump shaft, or the new pump will be damaged. It has to be drawn on, using the threads inside the shaft. Usually a long threaded stud with a bearing plate or some flat washers, and a nut to draw the pulley down onto the shaft. Worked at auto parts stores for years, saw quite a few pumps come back damaged from pulleys being pressed on, or even worse, hammered!


John in Omaha, Nebraska 74 26' Sequoia
Re: [GMCnet] Power steering pulley removal [message #309019 is a reply to message #309008] Tue, 18 October 2016 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Yes they come with the tooling to draw the pully on.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:24 PM, J Artz wrote:

> Advanced Concept Ener wrote on Tue, 18 October 2016 10:38
>> Success!! I bought Northern Tool set for pulley removal. Heated and
> quenched with PB blaster a few times. Watched the utube videos, including
> the
>> guy that ruined his pulley. I had to use my electric impact wrench but
> it finally came off. Thank you everyone for your ideas and information. Now
> I
>> have to wait for delivery from Applied.
>> Are there any secrets to getting the air out of the system?
>
>
> Most importantly is did the removal tool come with an installation tool?
> The pulley must NOT be pressed onto the pump shaft, or the new pump will be
> damaged. It has to be drawn on, using the threads inside the shaft.
> Usually a long threaded stud with a bearing plate or some flat washers, and
> a nut
> to draw the pulley down onto the shaft. Worked at auto parts stores for
> years, saw quite a few pumps come back damaged from pulleys being pressed
> on,
> or even worse, hammered!
> --
> John in Omaha, Nebraska
> 74 26' Sequoia
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Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming
Re: [GMCnet] Power steering pulley removal [message #309045 is a reply to message #308991] Wed, 19 October 2016 13:26 Go to previous message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Return that self exciting alternator, it's a bad idea.
remote sensing is especially important on the GMC since it measures the voltage after the long supply wire and after the isolator, were talking almost a full volt at full power.
And if you do go with a big Alt, upgrade the wire too, the stock wire is too old and too small.
Don't let the smoke out!

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> Success!! I bought Northern Tool set for pulley removal. Heated and quenched with PB blaster a few times. Watched the utube videos, including the guy that ruined his pulley. I had to use my electric impact wrench but it finally came off. Thank you everyone for your ideas and information. Now I have to wait for delivery from Applied.
> Are there any secrets to getting the air out of the system? Now I just have to install new high capacity water pump, new plastic fan and clutch, new self exciting 140 amp alternator, new isolator/ combiner combo, voltage regulator for Stewart warner temperature gauges, new voltage limiter for my radio and backup cam that burned out and I will be ready to drive it again. These machines are a labor of love.
> Thank you again everyone!
>
> Jon Darcy ACES
> North Jersey 76 stretch, flares, 4 bag, Alcoa's, bunkhouse,MAC Dash,Manny Trans, FiTech FI,Honda 6010
>
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