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Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #308696] Thu, 13 October 2016 17:08 Go to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Anyone have a part # for the upper control arm bolts. The ones that have a flat spot machined on them to accept the cam for Camber/caster adjusting.
Thanks.



Larry Smile
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #308698 is a reply to message #308696] Thu, 13 October 2016 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They are available with the cams, and nuts on the help tree display. No
access to part numbers here in Coos Bay, sorry.
Jim Hupy
On Oct 13, 2016 3:09 PM, "Larry" wrote:

> Anyone have a part # for the upper control arm bolts. The ones that have a
> flat spot machined on them to accept the cam for Camber/caster adjusting.
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #308699 is a reply to message #308696] Thu, 13 October 2016 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The part is listed in the GMCMI Parts Interchange under Front Axle, Control Arm, Shaft Kit. It is listed as Moog K5266 and NAPA 264-3620

NOTE TO KIM: To make it easier to find I suggest you add words after "Shaft Kit" to read "Shaft Kit Caster/Camber Cam Bolt"
Also add another part number:
AC/Delco 45K18020

Emery Stora

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Larry wrote:
>
> Anyone have a part # for the upper control arm bolts. The ones that have a flat spot machined on them to accept the cam for Camber/caster adjusting.
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #308703 is a reply to message #308699] Thu, 13 October 2016 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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emerystora wrote on Thu, 13 October 2016 17:31
The part is listed in the GMCMI Parts Interchange under Front Axle, Control Arm, Shaft Kit. It is listed as Moog K5266 and NAPA 264-3620

NOTE TO KIM: To make it easier to find I suggest you add words after "Shaft Kit" to read "Shaft Kit Caster/Camber Cam Bolt"
Also add another part number:
AC/Delco 45K18020

Emery Stora

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Larry wrote:
>
> Anyone have a part # for the upper control arm bolts. The ones that have a flat spot machined on them to accept the cam for Camber/caster adjusting.
> Thanks.

> Larry


Thanks Emery. Must be why I couldn't find it. Not clear in the product name.


Larry Smile
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309122 is a reply to message #308703] Thu, 20 October 2016 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow, looks like there are a LOT of alternatives on these, if this list is correct:
http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/11617522/napa-2643620.html#interchange

I'm amazed since the Moog used to be the only known part. It appears it was used on many vehicles.
However, I've also heard all the current replacements (Moog included) are Metric so don't fit as well.

Karen
1975 26'
Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309125 is a reply to message #309122] Thu, 20 October 2016 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't believe everything you hear, or read on facebook.
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On Oct 20, 2016 6:28 PM, "KB" wrote:

> wow, looks like there are a LOT of alternatives on these, if this list is
> correct:
> http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/11617522/napa-2643620.html#interchange
>
> I'm amazed since the Moog used to be the only known part. It appears it
> was used on many vehicles.
> However, I've also heard all the current replacements (Moog included) are
> Metric so don't fit as well.
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309136 is a reply to message #308699] Fri, 21 October 2016 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you....will do so. Anyone else that updates, please do forward them
for inclusion.

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Emery Stora wrote:

> The part is listed in the GMCMI Parts Interchange under Front Axle,
> Control Arm, Shaft Kit. It is listed as Moog K5266 and NAPA 264-3620
>
> NOTE TO KIM: To make it easier to find I suggest you add words after
> "Shaft Kit" to read "Shaft Kit Caster/Camber Cam Bolt"
> Also add another part number:
> AC/Delco 45K18020
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Larry wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a part # for the upper control arm bolts. The ones that have
> a flat spot machined on them to accept the cam for Camber/caster adjusting.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Larry
>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
>> Menomonie, WI.
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309140 is a reply to message #309125] Fri, 21 October 2016 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Thu, 20 October 2016 20:30
Don't believe everything you hear, or read on facebook.
Jim Hupy

On Oct 20, 2016 6:28 PM, "KB" wrote:

> wow, looks like there are a LOT of alternatives on these, if this list is
> correct:
> http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/11617522/napa-2643620.html#interchange
>
> I'm amazed since the Moog used to be the only known part. It appears it
> was used on many vehicles.
> However, I've also heard all the current replacements (Moog included) are
> Metric so don't fit as well.
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
>
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Believe it!! In This case the bolt is metric and slightly smaller in diameter and longer than the OEM it replaces. The cams themselves are also a little larger in diameter which restricts the amount of camber/caster you can potentially dial in when turned to the extreems. Just what I observed on my coach.


Larry Smile
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309150 is a reply to message #309125] Fri, 21 October 2016 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My posting had absolutely NOTHING to do with facebook. I found the part number references myself, and heard about the metric bolts from an *extremely* reputable GMC source.

Karen
1975 26'


James Hupy wrote on Thu, 20 October 2016 18:30
Don't believe everything you hear, or read on facebook.
Jim Hupy

On Oct 20, 2016 6:28 PM, "KB" wrote:

> wow, looks like there are a LOT of alternatives on these, if this list is
> correct:
> http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/11617522/napa-2643620.html#interchange
>
> I'm amazed since the Moog used to be the only known part. It appears it
> was used on many vehicles.
> However, I've also heard all the current replacements (Moog included) are
> Metric so don't fit as well.
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'


Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309152 is a reply to message #309150] Fri, 21 October 2016 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, Karen, I suspected as much. I gave a hasty answer. There are some
"bootleg" parts out there that are sometimes even packaged in containers
resembling Moog and other manufacturers. They are made of inferior
substandard materials and fit poorly. It has become a buyer beware market
when it comes to automotive parts. I have encountered the adjuster cams and
bolts myself, although they were not marketed as moog or Genuine G.M.
parts. Just plain white box with a number on the outside. It is not only
suspension parts, I have encountered ignition modules, starter solenoids,
alternator parts, just to name a few. Most of the time the bolts on
adjustment cams are damaged by idiots with impact wrenches instead of
torque wrenches. At least 1/4 of those bolts are ground away to index them
with the cams. They won't take a whole bunch of tightening before they
strip or twist off. Sorry I can't be more help.
Jim Hupy

On Oct 21, 2016 12:43 PM, "KB" wrote:

> My posting had absolutely NOTHING to do with facebook. I found the part
> number references myself, and heard about the metric bolts from an
> *extremely* reputable GMC source.
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Thu, 20 October 2016 18:30
>> Don't believe everything you hear, or read on facebook.
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2016 6:28 PM, "KB" wrote:
>>
>>> wow, looks like there are a LOT of alternatives on these, if this
> list is
>>> correct:
>>> http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/11617522/napa-2643620.html#interchange
>>>
>>> I'm amazed since the Moog used to be the only known part. It
> appears it
>>> was used on many vehicles.
>>> However, I've also heard all the current replacements (Moog included)
> are
>>> Metric so don't fit as well.
>>>
>>> Karen
>>> 1975 26'
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309155 is a reply to message #309152] Fri, 21 October 2016 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is the listing for O'reilly's

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Alignment+Cam+Bolt/02920/C0322.oap?model=Toronado&vi=1225752&year=1976&make=Oldsmobile

Just called my Napa store and there are 54 sets available in Tennesse.
Most likey to order the part shipping charges would be included.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:02 PM, James Hupy wrote:

> Yes, Karen, I suspected as much. I gave a hasty answer. There are some
> "bootleg" parts out there that are sometimes even packaged in containers
> resembling Moog and other manufacturers. They are made of inferior
> substandard materials and fit poorly. It has become a buyer beware market
> when it comes to automotive parts. I have encountered the adjuster cams and
> bolts myself, although they were not marketed as moog or Genuine G.M.
> parts. Just plain white box with a number on the outside. It is not only
> suspension parts, I have encountered ignition modules, starter solenoids,
> alternator parts, just to name a few. Most of the time the bolts on
> adjustment cams are damaged by idiots with impact wrenches instead of
> torque wrenches. At least 1/4 of those bolts are ground away to index them
> with the cams. They won't take a whole bunch of tightening before they
> strip or twist off. Sorry I can't be more help.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Oct 21, 2016 12:43 PM, "KB" wrote:
>
>> My posting had absolutely NOTHING to do with facebook. I found the part
>> number references myself, and heard about the metric bolts from an
>> *extremely* reputable GMC source.
>>
>> Karen
>> 1975 26'
>>
>>
>> James Hupy wrote on Thu, 20 October 2016 18:30
>>> Don't believe everything you hear, or read on facebook.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2016 6:28 PM, "KB" wrote:
>>>
>>>> wow, looks like there are a LOT of alternatives on these, if this
>> list is
>>>> correct:
>>>> http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/11617522/napa-2643620.html#
> interchange
>>>>
>>>> I'm amazed since the Moog used to be the only known part. It
>> appears it
>>>> was used on many vehicles.
>>>> However, I've also heard all the current replacements (Moog
> included)
>> are
>>>> Metric so don't fit as well.
>>>>
>>>> Karen
>>>> 1975 26'
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309167 is a reply to message #309152] Fri, 21 October 2016 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've run into some of those parts too. For example cam bolts that strip out even when using a torque wrench. I've learned to stick to the bottom end of the torque range on these, and hope that it holds. No guarantee anymore of getting genuine parts, it seems no matter where you buy them. But as they say, 'whaddya do?'

Karen
1975 26'


James Hupy wrote on Fri, 21 October 2016 13:02
Yes, Karen, I suspected as much. I gave a hasty answer. There are some
"bootleg" parts out there that are sometimes even packaged in containers
resembling Moog and other manufacturers. They are made of inferior
substandard materials and fit poorly. It has become a buyer beware market
when it comes to automotive parts. I have encountered the adjuster cams and
bolts myself, although they were not marketed as moog or Genuine G.M.
parts. Just plain white box with a number on the outside. It is not only
suspension parts, I have encountered ignition modules, starter solenoids,
alternator parts, just to name a few. Most of the time the bolts on
adjustment cams are damaged by idiots with impact wrenches instead of
torque wrenches. At least 1/4 of those bolts are ground away to index them
with the cams. They won't take a whole bunch of tightening before they
strip or twist off. Sorry I can't be more help.
Jim Hupy


Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309171 is a reply to message #309167] Fri, 21 October 2016 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I salveded out a 73" a couple of years back and have at least one if not
two of these bolts available if anyone would want one.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:58 PM, KB wrote:

> I've run into some of those parts too. For example cam bolts that strip
> out even when using a torque wrench. I've learned to stick to the bottom end
> of the torque range on these, and hope that it holds. No guarantee
> anymore of getting genuine parts, it seems no matter where you buy them.
> But as
> they say, 'whaddya do?'
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Fri, 21 October 2016 13:02
>> Yes, Karen, I suspected as much. I gave a hasty answer. There are some
>> "bootleg" parts out there that are sometimes even packaged in containers
>> resembling Moog and other manufacturers. They are made of inferior
>> substandard materials and fit poorly. It has become a buyer beware market
>> when it comes to automotive parts. I have encountered the adjuster cams
> and
>> bolts myself, although they were not marketed as moog or Genuine G.M.
>> parts. Just plain white box with a number on the outside. It is not only
>> suspension parts, I have encountered ignition modules, starter solenoids,
>> alternator parts, just to name a few. Most of the time the bolts on
>> adjustment cams are damaged by idiots with impact wrenches instead of
>> torque wrenches. At least 1/4 of those bolts are ground away to index
> them
>> with the cams. They won't take a whole bunch of tightening before they
>> strip or twist off. Sorry I can't be more help.
>> Jim Hupy
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Upper control arm bolt aprt # [message #309172 is a reply to message #309167] Fri, 21 October 2016 21:09 Go to previous message
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I believe at one time we used Ford parts.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 5:58 PM, KB wrote:

> I've run into some of those parts too. For example cam bolts that strip
> out even when using a torque wrench. I've learned to stick to the bottom end
> of the torque range on these, and hope that it holds. No guarantee
> anymore of getting genuine parts, it seems no matter where you buy them.
> But as
> they say, 'whaddya do?'
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Fri, 21 October 2016 13:02
>> Yes, Karen, I suspected as much. I gave a hasty answer. There are some
>> "bootleg" parts out there that are sometimes even packaged in containers
>> resembling Moog and other manufacturers. They are made of inferior
>> substandard materials and fit poorly. It has become a buyer beware market
>> when it comes to automotive parts. I have encountered the adjuster cams
> and
>> bolts myself, although they were not marketed as moog or Genuine G.M.
>> parts. Just plain white box with a number on the outside. It is not only
>> suspension parts, I have encountered ignition modules, starter solenoids,
>> alternator parts, just to name a few. Most of the time the bolts on
>> adjustment cams are damaged by idiots with impact wrenches instead of
>> torque wrenches. At least 1/4 of those bolts are ground away to index
> them
>> with the cams. They won't take a whole bunch of tightening before they
>> strip or twist off. Sorry I can't be more help.
>> Jim Hupy
>
>
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