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Fri, 02 September 2016 10:34  |
pzerkel
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I am working on cleaning up some of the wiring behind the front access panels. A PO used wire nuts to connect some of the stuff. There are wires I guess between 10-14 gauge.
I guess the wire nuts have worked so far, but I suspect there may be better alternatives. What kind of connectors are people using? Some of these are 2 wire connections, and some have 3 wires connected.
Thanks,
Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
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| Re: wire nut alternatives? [message #306370 is a reply to message #306367] |
Fri, 02 September 2016 11:08  |
Hal StClair
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Crimp ,solder, and heat shrink. Crimp sleave optional with solder but easier to use.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306379 is a reply to message #306367] |
Fri, 02 September 2016 11:57 |
Dolph Santorine
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I'm good with quality crimp connectors (read - not HF)
As always, good quality tools make the job easy.
Dolph Santorine
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Paul Zerkel wrote:
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> I am working on cleaning up some of the wiring behind the front access panels. A PO used wire nuts to connect some of the stuff. There are wires I
> guess between 10-14 gauge.
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> I guess the wire nuts have worked so far, but I suspect there may be better alternatives. What kind of connectors are people using? Some of these are
> 2 wire connections, and some have 3 wires connected.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Paul Zerkel
> '78 Eleganza II
> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306381 is a reply to message #306379] |
Fri, 02 September 2016 12:05 |
James Hupy
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I'm kinda with Hal on under dash repairs. The person who posed the question
stated the wires were 10 ga. to 14 ga. That tells me they are carrying
pretty heavy current loads. Really hard to beat a properly soldered and
heat shrink splice, especially with a crimp connector. Just the way I roll.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Sep 2, 2016 9:58 AM, "Adolph Santorine" wrote:
> I'm good with quality crimp connectors (read - not HF)
>
> As always, good quality tools make the job easy.
>
> Dolph Santorine
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> DE N8JPC
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> Wheeling, West Virginia
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> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> 1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
> EV-6010,
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>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Paul Zerkel wrote:
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>> I am working on cleaning up some of the wiring behind the front access
> panels. A PO used wire nuts to connect some of the stuff. There are wires I
>> guess between 10-14 gauge.
>>
>> I guess the wire nuts have worked so far, but I suspect there may be
> better alternatives. What kind of connectors are people using? Some of
> these are
>> 2 wire connections, and some have 3 wires connected.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Paul Zerkel
>> '78 Eleganza II
>> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306387 is a reply to message #306370] |
Fri, 02 September 2016 14:57 |
Jim Miller
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On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Hal StClair wrote:\
> Crimp ,solder, and heat shrink. Crimp sleave optional with solder but easier to use.
There is some heat shrink tubing out there with adhesive glue inside - it is a good choice in the automotive environment for covering your crimp and solder connections.
Jim Miller
1977 Eleganza
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
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| Re: wire nut alternatives? [message #306389 is a reply to message #306367] |
Fri, 02 September 2016 15:36 |
jhbridges
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I will echo Hal. Solder them together and put some heatshrink over the joint. My experience has been, the crimp merely limits where the solder can go.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306487 is a reply to message #306470] |
Sat, 03 September 2016 23:02 |
Dolph Santorine
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Great stuff - I also use these:
http://www.tnb.com/pub/en/node/274
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Jack Ramsey wrote:
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> http://www.polarisconnectors.com/pdfs/NSi/IT_series.pdf
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> I use Polaris connectors. Not the cheapest, but I certainly sleep well at night.
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> Jack
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> Tulare, CA
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> 1975 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306511 is a reply to message #306495] |
Sun, 04 September 2016 15:31 |
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USAussie
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Matt,
I have used this on the GMC and "clear stuff" oozes out the ends when shrunk. I've never seen that with any other shrink tubing I've
ever used.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives?
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> Subject: Re: wire nut alternatives?
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> There is some heat shrink tubing out there with adhesive glue inside - it is a good choice in the automotive environment for
covering your crimp
> and solder connections.
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> Jim Miller
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> Yep:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/42-piece-marine-heat-shrink-tubing-67598.html
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
Rob,
As I worked on racing sailboats a lot (before the depression), I used this a lot.
The lined heat shrink that I have in stock has a visible inside layer. When I looked at this, it did not.
Ego, I would prefer to spend the money someplace reliable and get the good stuff.
Matt
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: wire nut alternatives? [message #306517 is a reply to message #306367] |
Sun, 04 September 2016 18:07 |
SpookyEng
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While I prefer the solder and heat shrink method for most connections, I have found that posi-tap connectors are a useful and sturdy method in some cases. I used them to tap into my motorcycle wiring harness when installing some turn signal repeaters and stereo equipment. 3 years of shake, rattle, and roll and I have never had a connection problem with them. positap
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc
Navarre, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306533 is a reply to message #306517] |
Mon, 05 September 2016 02:24 |
Mr ERFisher
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Those of us who built " flight" systems , in our past life, will not use
solder systems, because it makes the wire solid, and will fail Sume time in
the future --- use a " crimp " connection
On Sunday, September 4, 2016, wrote:
> While I prefer the solder and heat shrink method for most connections, I
> have found that posi-tap connectors are a useful and sturdy method in some
> cases. I used them to tap into my motorcycle wiring harness when
> installing some turn signal repeaters and stereo equipment. 3 years of
> shake, rattle,
> and roll and I have never had a connection problem with them.
> http://www.posi-products.com/posiplug.html
> --
> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
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> Navarre, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] wire nut alternatives? [message #306536 is a reply to message #306533] |
Mon, 05 September 2016 06:24 |
Ken Burton
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 05 September 2016 02:24Those of us who built " flight" systems , in our past life, will not use
solder systems, because it makes the wire solid, and will fail Sume time in
the future --- use a " crimp " connection
--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
"Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
The FAA prohibits soldered connections in aircraft. I do not use them in aircraft, but I still do them in almost everything else. It a soldered connection were to fail during use, which it never has for me, it is not as catastrophic in a ground vehicle, and I'll fix it again later. The problem with crimps is usually the quality of the crimping tool.
I have sometimes crimped and soldered the same connection.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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