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Fri, 12 August 2016 16:53  |
Brian Waddell
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I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77 gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew that pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele 455
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From: Steve Foster
Sent: August 8, 2016 2:54 PM
To: Brian Waddell
Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
It sounds to me like you have a worn out gear. We can send you a new gear, but with motor homes it is best to send them in to have them rebuilt, the stops in the housing vary and there is no way to know what they are without taking the gear apart.
Call me and I'll explain the wiper motor thing to you, at as the best that I can.
Steve Foster
206-364-3333
800-808-1148
REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
4302 B ST NW
AUBURN, WA 98001
From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:37 PM
To: Steve Foster
Subject: Re: 77 gmc motorhome
I think I will have to replace my steering box or gea,r if that is the correct terminology , because I have replaced all front end components except steering box, and the thing wanders down the highway . When I correct the steering at 50 mph I have to wait and see if it is coming back to the center of lane or not yet or too much correction . I can not drive it. Yes. I have hydro wipers... What exactly are you talking about with the htdro wiper and how they affect steering...thanks...Brian 1977 GMC motorhome
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From: Steve Foster
Sent: August 3, 2016 10:52 AM
To: Brian Waddell
Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
Why are you considering changing your steering gear? The reason I ask is because, if you still have the hydro driven windshield wipers, that can be causing a problem with the steering gear.
Steve Foster
206-364-3333
800-808-1148
REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
4302 B ST NW
AUBURN, WA 98001
From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Steve Foster
Subject: 77 gmc motorhome
looking for a new steering box....considering variable ratio....would you replace the inner workings of mine or supply me a new box..cost?......77 gmc motothome 455 .eng,,,front wheel drive....thanks Brian
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305340 is a reply to message #305326] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 01:13  |
jimk
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We are starting to find out that the wiper motor breaking apart inside and
causing restriction and blowing the gear box seal.
When we see that, we replace it with an electric wiper kit.
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Brian Waddell
wrote:
> I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77
> gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything
> until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following
> is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the
> steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects
> steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew that
> pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele 455
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Foster
> Sent: August 8, 2016 2:54 PM
> To: Brian Waddell
> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
> It sounds to me like you have a worn out gear. We can send you a new gear,
> but with motor homes it is best to send them in to have them rebuilt, the
> stops in the housing vary and there is no way to know what they are without
> taking the gear apart.
>
> Call me and I'll explain the wiper motor thing to you, at as the best that
> I can.
>
>
>
> Steve Foster
>
> 206-364-3333
>
> 800-808-1148
>
> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>
> 4302 B ST NW
>
> AUBURN, WA 98001
>
>
>
> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:37 PM
> To: Steve Foster
> Subject: Re: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I will have to replace my steering box or gea,r if that is the
> correct terminology , because I have replaced all front end components
> except steering box, and the thing wanders down the highway . When I
> correct the steering at 50 mph I have to wait and see if it is coming back
> to the center of lane or not yet or too much correction . I can not drive
> it. Yes. I have hydro wipers... What exactly are you talking about with
> the htdro wiper and how they affect steering...thanks...Brian 1977 GMC
> motorhome
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Steve Foster >
> Sent: August 3, 2016 10:52 AM
> To: Brian Waddell
> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
>
> Why are you considering changing your steering gear? The reason I ask is
> because, if you still have the hydro driven windshield wipers, that can be
> causing a problem with the steering gear.
>
>
>
> Steve Foster
>
> 206-364-3333
>
> 800-808-1148
>
> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>
> 4302 B ST NW
>
> AUBURN, WA 98001
>
>
>
> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 6:29 PM
> To: Steve Foster >
> Subject: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
>
> looking for a new steering box....considering variable ratio....would you
> replace the inner workings of mine or supply me a new box..cost?......77
> gmc motothome 455 .eng,,,front wheel drive....thanks Brian
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305341 is a reply to message #305340] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 01:26 |
Brian Waddell
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you mean the steering gear box seal gets screwed up by the wiper motor?..and this causes steering problems?...and the wipers work ok?....brian 77 elegansa....always nice to talk to you jim...I have been busy lately and have not revisited my steering issues...and have not used the motorhome ever except testing ...gues I am down to the steering box...thanks
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Jim Kanomata
Sent: August 13, 2016 12:13 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering
We are starting to find out that the wiper motor breaking apart inside and
causing restriction and blowing the gear box seal.
When we see that, we replace it with an electric wiper kit.
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Brian Waddell
wrote:
> I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77
> gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything
> until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following
> is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the
> steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects
> steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew that
> pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele 455
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Foster
> Sent: August 8, 2016 2:54 PM
> To: Brian Waddell
> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
> It sounds to me like you have a worn out gear. We can send you a new gear,
> but with motor homes it is best to send them in to have them rebuilt, the
> stops in the housing vary and there is no way to know what they are without
> taking the gear apart.
>
> Call me and I'll explain the wiper motor thing to you, at as the best that
> I can.
>
>
>
> Steve Foster
>
> 206-364-3333
>
> 800-808-1148
>
> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>
> 4302 B ST NW
>
> AUBURN, WA 98001
>
>
>
> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:37 PM
> To: Steve Foster
> Subject: Re: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I will have to replace my steering box or gea,r if that is the
> correct terminology , because I have replaced all front end components
> except steering box, and the thing wanders down the highway . When I
> correct the steering at 50 mph I have to wait and see if it is coming back
> to the center of lane or not yet or too much correction . I can not drive
> it. Yes. I have hydro wipers... What exactly are you talking about with
> the htdro wiper and how they affect steering...thanks...Brian 1977 GMC
> motorhome
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Steve Foster >
> Sent: August 3, 2016 10:52 AM
> To: Brian Waddell
> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
>
> Why are you considering changing your steering gear? The reason I ask is
> because, if you still have the hydro driven windshield wipers, that can be
> causing a problem with the steering gear.
>
>
>
> Steve Foster
>
> 206-364-3333
>
> 800-808-1148
>
> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>
> 4302 B ST NW
>
> AUBURN, WA 98001
>
>
>
> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 6:29 PM
> To: Steve Foster >
> Subject: 77 gmc motorhome
>
>
>
> looking for a new steering box....considering variable ratio....would you
> replace the inner workings of mine or supply me a new box..cost?......77
> gmc motothome 455 .eng,,,front wheel drive....thanks Brian
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
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Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
http://www.appliedgmc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305343 is a reply to message #305341] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 01:40 |
jimk
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When the wiper motor goes bad, it restricts the flow of PS fluid ad
pressure goes up and cause the seal on the gearbox to leak.
Not saying your wiper motor is breaking up inside.
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Brian Waddell
wrote:
> you mean the steering gear box seal gets screwed up by the wiper
> motor?..and this causes steering problems?...and the wipers work
> ok?....brian 77 elegansa....always nice to talk to you jim...I have been
> busy lately and have not revisited my steering issues...and have not used
> the motorhome ever except testing ...gues I am down to the steering
> box...thanks
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Jim Kanomata
>
> Sent: August 13, 2016 12:13 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering
>
> We are starting to find out that the wiper motor breaking apart inside and
> causing restriction and blowing the gear box seal.
> When we see that, we replace it with an electric wiper kit.
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Brian Waddell
> wrote:
>
>> I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77
>> gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything
>> until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following
>> is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the
>> steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects
>> steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew
> that
>> pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele
> 455
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Steve Foster
>> Sent: August 8, 2016 2:54 PM
>> To: Brian Waddell
>> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>> It sounds to me like you have a worn out gear. We can send you a new
> gear,
>> but with motor homes it is best to send them in to have them rebuilt, the
>> stops in the housing vary and there is no way to know what they are
> without
>> taking the gear apart.
>>
>> Call me and I'll explain the wiper motor thing to you, at as the best
> that
>> I can.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Foster
>>
>> 206-364-3333
>>
>> 800-808-1148
>>
>> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>>
>> 4302 B ST NW
>>
>> AUBURN, WA 98001
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:37 PM
>> To: Steve Foster
>> Subject: Re: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I will have to replace my steering box or gea,r if that is the
>> correct terminology , because I have replaced all front end components
>> except steering box, and the thing wanders down the highway . When I
>> correct the steering at 50 mph I have to wait and see if it is coming
> back
>> to the center of lane or not yet or too much correction . I can not drive
>> it. Yes. I have hydro wipers... What exactly are you talking about with
>> the htdro wiper and how they affect steering...thanks...Brian 1977 GMC
>> motorhome
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Steve Foster redheadsteeringgears.com>>
>> Sent: August 3, 2016 10:52 AM
>> To: Brian Waddell
>> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>>
>> Why are you considering changing your steering gear? The reason I ask is
>> because, if you still have the hydro driven windshield wipers, that can
> be
>> causing a problem with the steering gear.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Foster
>>
>> 206-364-3333
>>
>> 800-808-1148
>>
>> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>>
>> 4302 B ST NW
>>
>> AUBURN, WA 98001
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 6:29 PM
>> To: Steve Foster redheadsteeringgears.com>>
>> Subject: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>>
>> looking for a new steering box....considering variable ratio....would you
>> replace the inner workings of mine or supply me a new box..cost?......77
>> gmc motothome 455 .eng,,,front wheel drive....thanks Brian
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
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>
>
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305344 is a reply to message #305343] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 01:50 |
Brian Waddell
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my steering box seal appears to be always wet...I really do not know what seal this is , but it is on the bottom the steering box...wipers work good....going to bed now it is 145 am.....thanks for now jim...brian 77 ele 455
________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Jim Kanomata
Sent: August 13, 2016 12:40 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering
When the wiper motor goes bad, it restricts the flow of PS fluid ad
pressure goes up and cause the seal on the gearbox to leak.
Not saying your wiper motor is breaking up inside.
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Brian Waddell
wrote:
> you mean the steering gear box seal gets screwed up by the wiper
> motor?..and this causes steering problems?...and the wipers work
> ok?....brian 77 elegansa....always nice to talk to you jim...I have been
> busy lately and have not revisited my steering issues...and have not used
> the motorhome ever except testing ...gues I am down to the steering
> box...thanks
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Jim Kanomata
>
> Sent: August 13, 2016 12:13 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering
>
> We are starting to find out that the wiper motor breaking apart inside and
> causing restriction and blowing the gear box seal.
> When we see that, we replace it with an electric wiper kit.
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Brian Waddell
> wrote:
>
>> I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77
>> gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything
>> until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following
>> is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the
>> steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects
>> steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew
> that
>> pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele
> 455
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Steve Foster
>> Sent: August 8, 2016 2:54 PM
>> To: Brian Waddell
>> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>> It sounds to me like you have a worn out gear. We can send you a new
> gear,
>> but with motor homes it is best to send them in to have them rebuilt, the
>> stops in the housing vary and there is no way to know what they are
> without
>> taking the gear apart.
>>
>> Call me and I'll explain the wiper motor thing to you, at as the best
> that
>> I can.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Foster
>>
>> 206-364-3333
>>
>> 800-808-1148
>>
>> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>>
>> 4302 B ST NW
>>
>> AUBURN, WA 98001
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:37 PM
>> To: Steve Foster
>> Subject: Re: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I will have to replace my steering box or gea,r if that is the
>> correct terminology , because I have replaced all front end components
>> except steering box, and the thing wanders down the highway . When I
>> correct the steering at 50 mph I have to wait and see if it is coming
> back
>> to the center of lane or not yet or too much correction . I can not drive
>> it. Yes. I have hydro wipers... What exactly are you talking about with
>> the htdro wiper and how they affect steering...thanks...Brian 1977 GMC
>> motorhome
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Steve Foster redheadsteeringgears.com>>
>> Sent: August 3, 2016 10:52 AM
>> To: Brian Waddell
>> Subject: RE: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>>
>> Why are you considering changing your steering gear? The reason I ask is
>> because, if you still have the hydro driven windshield wipers, that can
> be
>> causing a problem with the steering gear.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Foster
>>
>> 206-364-3333
>>
>> 800-808-1148
>>
>> REDHEAD STEERING GEARS
>>
>> 4302 B ST NW
>>
>> AUBURN, WA 98001
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Waddell [mailto:sperline1@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 6:29 PM
>> To: Steve Foster redheadsteeringgears.com>>
>> Subject: 77 gmc motorhome
>>
>>
>>
>> looking for a new steering box....considering variable ratio....would you
>> replace the inner workings of mine or supply me a new box..cost?......77
>> gmc motothome 455 .eng,,,front wheel drive....thanks Brian
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305345 is a reply to message #305344] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 06:31 |
Ken Henderson
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A great old-time GMCer, Dan Hudson, helped me develop the electric wiper
kit back in the early 2000's. In fact, he fabricated the first prototype.
His primary incentive was that he couldn't keep the input seal in his power
steering box because of back pressure from the hydraulic wiper motor. So,
convenience and serviceability are only two of the reasons for the
existence of the kit.
Ken H.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Brian Waddell
wrote:
> my steering box seal appears to be always wet...I really do not know what
> seal this is , but it is on the bottom the steering box...wipers work
> good....going to bed now it is 145 am.....thanks for now jim...brian 77 ele
> 455
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305352 is a reply to message #305345] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 09:23 |
Kosier
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Ken,
If you get a chance, look at a new Dodge Dart wiper setup.
Both wiper arms are on the left side. The RH wiper arm is
about three feet long and sweeps most of the windshield.
It must have a strong motor to swing that arm.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:31 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering
> A great old-time GMCer, Dan Hudson, helped me develop the electric wiper
> kit back in the early 2000's. In fact, he fabricated the first prototype.
> His primary incentive was that he couldn't keep the input seal in his
> power
> steering box because of back pressure from the hydraulic wiper motor. So,
> convenience and serviceability are only two of the reasons for the
> existence of the kit.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Brian Waddell
> wrote:
>
>> my steering box seal appears to be always wet...I really do not know what
>> seal this is , but it is on the bottom the steering box...wipers work
>> good....going to bed now it is 145 am.....thanks for now jim...brian 77
>> ele
>> 455
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305354 is a reply to message #305352] |
Sat, 13 August 2016 10:59 |
Ken Henderson
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Wilco.
Ken H.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary Kosier
wrote:
> Ken,
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> If you get a chance, look at a new Dodge Dart wiper setup.
> Both wiper arms are on the left side. The RH wiper arm is
> about three feet long and sweeps most of the windshield.
> It must have a strong motor to swing that arm.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305399 is a reply to message #305354] |
Sun, 14 August 2016 19:32 |
Ken Henderson
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Brian,
The important thing about hydraulic pressure is the differential pressure
across the subject mechanism. The power steering pump can produce only a
certain amount of pressure. With the hydraulic wiper filter and motor in
series with the steering gear box, excessive drop across the wiper
components reduces the pressure available for the steering gear. The
little brass tube at the wiper motor contains a fine screen -- the filter.
You need to remove that filter and clean it thoroughly. Many people simply
punch through the screen. That's probably not the best idea in the world.
Or, you can install my electric wiper kit and remove all of the hydraulic
wiper components. :-)
Neither of those options is guaranteed to improve your steeing performance.
:-(
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Brian Waddell
wrote:
> I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77
> gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything
> until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following
> is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the
> steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects
> steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew that
> pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele 455
> ...
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305453 is a reply to message #305399] |
Mon, 15 August 2016 18:51 |
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If you remove the hydraulic wipers and install the electric wipers be sure
to put a power steering filter inline with the return line to the power
steering pump. I disassembled a gear box from a coach that had electric
wipers and the casting was severely grooved at the three lands of the
spool valve.
It has an internal magnet to collect metal particles from wear of power
steering vane.
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Brian,
>
> The important thing about hydraulic pressure is the differential pressure
> across the subject mechanism. The power steering pump can produce only a
> certain amount of pressure. With the hydraulic wiper filter and motor in
> series with the steering gear box, excessive drop across the wiper
> components reduces the pressure available for the steering gear. The
> little brass tube at the wiper motor contains a fine screen -- the filter.
> You need to remove that filter and clean it thoroughly. Many people simply
> punch through the screen. That's probably not the best idea in the world.
>
> Or, you can install my electric wiper kit and remove all of the hydraulic
> wiper components. :-)
>
> Neither of those options is guaranteed to improve your steeing performance.
> :-(
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Brian Waddell
> wrote:
>
>> I sent a email to redhead steering asking about the steering box on my 77
>> gmc motorhome.Just to clarify, I have no intention of doing anything
>> until I have spoken to our gmc suppliers or our gmc people. The following
>> is the conversation. What is with the hydro driven wipers affecting the
>> steering...maybe the filter in that little pipe being clogged affects
>> steering?...original wipers work fine...At one time I tried to unscrew
> that
>> pipe...it did not come apart easily so I just left it alone.Brian 77 ele
> 455
>> ...
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305454 is a reply to message #305453] |
Mon, 15 August 2016 19:00 |
Ken Henderson
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Bruce,
That's a good idea, which I frankly had never thought of recommending.
There are several hundred electric wipers out there that perhaps should
have considered that option if they were having hydraulic motor problems.
I'll try to remember to include that suggestion in the next revision of the
instructions.
Oh yeah -- it wasn't clear in your message that the magnet is in the power
steering pump, not the gear box.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Bruce Hart wrote:
> If you remove the hydraulic wipers and install the electric wipers be sure
> to put a power steering filter inline with the return line to the power
> steering pump. I disassembled a gear box from a coach that had electric
> wipers and the casting was severely grooved at the three lands of the
> spool valve.
>
> It has an internal magnet to collect metal particles from wear of power
> steering vane.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] steering [message #305458 is a reply to message #305454] |
Mon, 15 August 2016 20:22 |
Bruce Hart
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What I meant to say was you want the inline filter with a magnet inside.
I purchased one from Autozone $10 .
http://www.autozone.com/filters-and-pcv/power-steering-filter/cardone-reman-power-steering-filter/13909_865379_0/?checkfit=true
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> That's a good idea, which I frankly had never thought of recommending.
> There are several hundred electric wipers out there that perhaps should
> have considered that option if they were having hydraulic motor problems.
> I'll try to remember to include that suggestion in the next revision of the
> instructions.
>
> Oh yeah -- it wasn't clear in your message that the magnet is in the power
> steering pump, not the gear box.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Bruce Hart wrote:
>
>> If you remove the hydraulic wipers and install the electric wipers be
> sure
>> to put a power steering filter inline with the return line to the power
>> steering pump. I disassembled a gear box from a coach that had electric
>> wipers and the casting was severely grooved at the three lands of the
>> spool valve.
>>
>> It has an internal magnet to collect metal particles from wear of power
>> steering vane.
>>
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