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SpookyEng is currently offline  SpookyEng   United States
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http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60977-on-the-hook.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60977-on-the-hook.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60975-1st-trip-crash.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60975-1st-trip-crash.html


Here are the pictures of the Coach after the 1-20 (Georgia Razz )accident. I delivered her to Jim B. yesterday. It was great meeting him and touring the shop! After his team inspects the damage and conducts a full mechanical and systems check (I don't know what else might have been damaged), she will get a MAC dash and a new set of Eagles and tires. We will be engaging with the insurance, ugh, to get her bodywork repaired.


JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL
Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304574 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I forgot to add. The coach was parked inside the rumble strips. The impact moved the whole coach to the position you see here. The Ford Explorer was traveling 75-80 MPH when it hit the coach.

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL
Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304577 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Exploder lady is lucky. If she'd swerved a foot further, she would of hit the rear in an offset and at 80 per might well have not survived it. As it is, the side looks a little ruffled and the bumper's somewhat the worse for wear. Bounds can heal it for ya.

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Was the Explorer driver on the phone?

Mark S. '73 Painted Desert, Manny 1 Ton Front End, Howell Injection, Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes, Fort Worth, TX
Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304580 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nope, her husband was in the passenger seat drinking beer. The two month old was in the back (Thank God!) in a car seat. I think she got distracted, looked up and saw the traffic stopped and instinctively jerked the wheel right into the side of the GMC. Of course the first thing she said was "I never saw you" The same thing I have heard from every car "driver" that has tried to kill me on my motorcycle. How you can't see a 12,000 lb Motorhome, with flashers on, in broad daylight is beyond me.

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL
Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304581 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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She's telling the truth as she remembers it - after all, if she had of 'seen' a great big obstacle, she would of gone around it. Basically a measure of stupidity which led to a total lack of situational awareness. A mix which will hurt you sooner or later.

As to the celphone distraction, some while back - long before smart phones - we were privy to some research on driver distraction. At that time the cellular telephone was the third most distracting thing for drivers. The second was lighting up a smoke. Since the first was fiddling with the car radio, we as broadcasters didn't see fit to publicize the results.

And that's why we abandoned the bikes when we moved to N GA 30-odd years ago. "The other driver was at fault" makes a piss poor epitaph on a tombstone.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304583 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very sad to see but very happy everyone is all right. It definitely
could have been much much worse. Your damage looks very repairable.

On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:41 AM, wrote:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60977-on-the-hook.html
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60975-1st-trip-crash.html
>
>
> Here are the pictures of the Coach after the 1-20 (Georgia :p )accident. I delivered her to Jim B. yesterday. It was great meeting him and touring
> the shop! After his team inspects the damage and conducts a full mechanical and systems check (I don't know what else might have been damaged), she
> will get a MAC dash and a new set of Eagles and tires. We will be engaging with the insurance, ugh, to get her bodywork repaired.
>
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Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304595 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I am out on my bike or scooter, I assume that no one sees me. I slow down or stop for intersections where I have the right of way. Anytime I come to an intersection I assume that the drivers crossing or pulling on to my road did not see me. The worse time is during the day with a woman driving a mini-van awhile talking on a cell phone.

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I always felt safest on the freeway at night - the bike is lit up, and they can't come at you from side streets.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304600 is a reply to message #304595] Sat, 30 July 2016 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 30 July 2016 16:41
When I am out on my bike or scooter, I assume that no one sees me. I slow down or stop for intersections where I have the right of way. Anytime I come to an intersection I assume that the drivers crossing or pulling on to my road did not see me. The worse time is during the day with a woman driving a mini-van awhile talking on a cell phone.


I do the same. Our roads are full of tourists looking at the water and chattering amongst themselves. I just assume they are all trying to kill me.


JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304601 is a reply to message #304583] Sat, 30 July 2016 18:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Sat, 30 July 2016 11:04
Very sad to see but very happy everyone is all right. It definitely
could have been much much worse. Your damage looks very repairable
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:41 AM, wrote:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60977-on-the-hook.html
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-crash/p60975-1st-trip-crash.html
>
>
> Here are the pictures of the Coach after the 1-20 (Georgia Razz )accident. I delivered her to Jim B. yesterday. It was great meeting him and touring
> the shop! After his team inspects the damage and conducts a full mechanical and systems check (I don't know what else might have been damaged), she
> will get a MAC dash and a new set of Eagles and tires. We will be engaging with the insurance, ugh, to get her bodywork repaired.
>
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Thanks, I appreciate it. We are a little sore but otherwise ok. JimB already was working out a repair plan as we were walking around the coach Cool



JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL

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Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304602 is a reply to message #304600] Sat, 30 July 2016 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Worst of ALL are "grey hairs" in Buicks, backing out of driveways while
looking straight ahead. Totally clueless as to what is going on around
them. They just emerge in front of you with no time for you to react.
Jim Hupy
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On Jul 30, 2016 4:56 PM, wrote:

> Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 30 July 2016 16:41
>> When I am out on my bike or scooter, I assume that no one sees me. I
> slow down or stop for intersections where I have the right of way. Anytime
>> I come to an intersection I assume that the drivers crossing or pulling
> on to my road did not see me. The worse time is during the day with a woman
>> driving a mini-van awhile talking on a cell phone.
>
>
> I do the same. Our roads are full of tourists looking at the water and
> chattering amongst themselves. I just assume they are all trying to kill me.
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Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304603 is a reply to message #304600] Sat, 30 July 2016 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SpookyEng wrote on Sat, 30 July 2016 23:55
Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 30 July 2016 16:41
When I am out on my bike or scooter, I assume that no one sees me. I slow down or stop for intersections where I have the right of way. Anytime I come to an intersection I assume that the drivers crossing or pulling on to my road did not see me. The worse time is during the day with a woman driving a mini-van awhile talking on a cell phone.


I do the same. Our roads are full of tourists looking at the water and chattering amongst themselves. I just assume they are all trying to kill me.


Sometimes it is the other way around. Just had an accident here just south of Montreal where 15 bikers drove into the back of an RV that was stopped on a secondary road waiting to turn left into a campground. 1 biker dead 6 in the hospital. During the day around 1:00pm dry roads unlimited visibility on a straight section of road that is flat.

http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/one-dead-after-massive-motorcycle-pileup-in-northern-n-b-1.3008916



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Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304604 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stupidity and lack of SA isn't reserved only for auto drivers.

--johnny


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Re: Coach Damage Pics [message #304609 is a reply to message #304573] Sat, 30 July 2016 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amen to that, I have seen bikers do some truly stupid stuff. I do think being a good rider makes you a better driver. I drive like I ride, constantly expecting the other vehicles out there to do the unexpected. I used to have a Bright Red Ford Lightning, I was looking this lady on a side street right in the eye and she pulled out in front of me. Just because people look at you doesn't mean they actually perceive you, scary stuff right there. You wonder why there is such a drive for autonomous vehicles.

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL

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Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304611 is a reply to message #304609] Sat, 30 July 2016 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You would not believe what I see sitting up high in that driver seat of my
truck and seeing a 1/4 to 1/2 mile ahead of you!!!

On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:03 PM, wrote:

> Amen to that, I have seen bikers do some truly stupid stuff. I do think
> being a good rider makes you a better driver. I drive like I ride,
> constantly
> expecting the other vehicles out there to do the unexpected. I used to
> have a Bright Red Ford Lightning, I wa looking this lady on a side street
> right
> in the eye and she pulled out in front of me. Just because people look at
> you doesn't mean they actually perceive you, scary stuff right there. You
> wonder why there is such a drive for autonomous vehicles.
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Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304615 is a reply to message #304602] Sun, 31 July 2016 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Sat, 30 July 2016 19:05
Worst of ALL are "grey hairs" in Buicks, backing out of driveways while
looking straight ahead. Totally clueless as to what is going on around
them. They just emerge in front of you with no time for you to react.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 30, 2016 4:56 PM, wrote:


This sounds like the inside of Walmart. I did not know that Buick made powered shopping carts.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304622 is a reply to message #304611] Sun, 31 July 2016 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tend not to look back and watch for bikers.
Just like my driving, all brakes or accelerator, and all front or back view.
Gets harder as we get older

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> On Jul 30, 2016, at 7:55 PM, GENE KNUEPPEL wrote:
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> You would not believe what I see sitting up high in that driver seat of my
> truck and seeing a 1/4 to 1/2 mile ahead of you!!!
>
>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:03 PM, wrote:
>>
>> Amen to that, I have seen bikers do some truly stupid stuff. I do think
>> being a good rider makes you a better driver. I drive like I ride,
>> constantly
>> expecting the other vehicles out there to do the unexpected. I used to
>> have a Bright Red Ford Lightning, I wa looking this lady on a side street
>> right
>> in the eye and she pulled out in front of me. Just because people look at
>> you doesn't mean they actually perceive you, scary stuff right there. You
>> wonder why there is such a drive for autonomous vehicles.
>> --
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>> 1978 Royale-455
>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
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>> Navarre, FL
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Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304632 is a reply to message #304622] Sun, 31 July 2016 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

Smart bikers don't expect drivers to look back for bikers EXCEPT when they are changing lanes.

Smart bikers stay alive by repeating the mantra; "nobody sees me, nobody hears me, EVERYBODY is going to run me over!"

Regards,
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I tend not to look back and watch for bikers.
Just like my driving, all brakes or accelerator, and all front or back view.
Gets harder as we get older




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Re: [GMCnet] Coach Damage Pics [message #304633 is a reply to message #304632] Sun, 31 July 2016 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Good that no one was hurt and the coach looks to be repairable.

That incident confirms to me why it makes sense to get out of vehicle if forced to stop by the side of the expressway. My standard operating procedure has always been to get out of the coach or car if something happens to force a stop on the side of the highway. Of course I try to get as far off the the highway as possible which could be difficult.

We get the cat, is she is aboard in a carrier, and the-plan is for us all to wait a safe distance from the vehicle. My thinking is that it could be death on wheels if a distracted semi or other vehicle hits our stalled vehicle while going 70-80 MPH. I've only had to put that plan into place twice in the 18 years that we have owned our GMC. So far never in our cars. I know some would say that by getting out I am exposing myself to bad people that want to do us harm. I don't know the answer to that other than carrying a weapon and/or avoiding driving in bad neighborhoods in the first place.


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