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| Bad Fuel Pump [message #304492] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 08:06  |
George Zhookoff
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Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved to safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump for a 350 this morning.
Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
Headed west to Austin tx.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304495 is a reply to message #304492] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 08:24  |
Ken Henderson
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George, surely they've got an electric pump in stock. Just mount it ahead
of the Aux tank and power it from the selector valve. Should be hose there
so no plumbing problem.
Ken H.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, George Zhookoff <
George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
> Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved to
> safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
> No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump for a
> 350 this morning.
> Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
> As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
> Headed west to Austin tx.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304497 is a reply to message #304495] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 08:30 |
Ken Henderson
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George,
I just checked RockAuto. They show Carter M6108 for 350 and M6109 (3-line)
for 403. So, yes, the "350" pump will work on the 403. I now recall that
NAPA part numbers are similar -- 1 number different for 2 and 3 line
versions.
Should be able to compare them before installation anyway.
Ken H.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> George, surely they've got an electric pump in stock. Just mount it ahead
> of the Aux tank and power it from the selector valve. Should be hose there
> so no plumbing problem.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, George Zhookoff George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved
>> to safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
>> No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump for
>> a 350 this morning.
>> Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
>> As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
>> Headed west to Austin tx.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304498 is a reply to message #304495] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 08:31 |
George Zhookoff
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Ken
Yes that was going to be my plan "B" if needed.
What are the specs for the electric pump I can use.
Thanks
George"thankful for friends" Zhookoff
78 EI. II
Temporarily Minden, LA
George Zhookoff
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> George, surely they've got an electric pump in stock. Just mount it ahead
> of the Aux tank and power it from the selector valve. Should be hose there
> so no plumbing problem.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, George Zhookoff George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved to
>> safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
>> No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump for a
>> 350 this morning.
>> Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
>> As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
>> Headed west to Austin tx.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304500 is a reply to message #304497] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 08:34 |
George Zhookoff
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Thanks Ken.
I'll cap off any "extra" outlets.
Getting ready to pull the pump. Just about finished my coffee.
George
George Zhookoff
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> George,
>
> I just checked RockAuto. They show Carter M6108 for 350 and M6109 (3-line)
> for 403. So, yes, the "350" pump will work on the 403. I now recall that
> NAPA part numbers are similar -- 1 number different for 2 and 3 line
> versions.
>
> Should be able to compare them before installation anyway.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> George, surely they've got an electric pump in stock. Just mount it ahead
>> of the Aux tank and power it from the selector valve. Should be hose there
>> so no plumbing problem.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, George Zhookoff > George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved
>>> to safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
>>> No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump for
>>> a 350 this morning.
>>> Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
>>> As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
>>> Headed west to Austin tx.
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304501 is a reply to message #304500] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 08:44 |
Ken Henderson
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George,
Unless you plan to eventually route that 3rd line back to the tank for
vapor lock inhibition, try to get the pump without the 3rd line.
Ken H.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Zhookoff, George <
George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ken.
> I'll cap off any "extra" outlets.
>
> Getting ready to pull the pump. Just about finished my coffee.
> George
>
> George Zhookoff
>
>
>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>>
>> George,
>>
>> I just checked RockAuto. They show Carter M6108 for 350 and M6109
> (3-line)
>> for 403. So, yes, the "350" pump will work on the 403. I now recall
> that
>> NAPA part numbers are similar -- 1 number different for 2 and 3 line
>> versions.
>>
>> Should be able to compare them before installation anyway.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> George, surely they've got an electric pump in stock. Just mount it
> ahead
>>> of the Aux tank and power it from the selector valve. Should be hose
> there
>>> so no plumbing problem.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, George Zhookoff >> George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved
>>>> to safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
>>>> No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump
> for
>>>> a 350 this morning.
>>>> Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
>>>> As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
>>>> Headed west to Austin tx.
>>>>
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| Re: Bad Fuel Pump [message #304506 is a reply to message #304492] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 09:05 |
jhbridges
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George, I use two of the Mr. Gasket rotary pumps - they have built in check valves. Usually blister packed at the parts house. If you get one, >don't use the supplied inoput filter<. It will quickly fail at the joint. Get the Wix replacement and use it.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304507 is a reply to message #304501] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 09:06 |
George Zhookoff
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No joy on mechanical pump.
Have a Mr Gasket electric pump headed here.
George Zhookoff
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> George,
>
> Unless you plan to eventually route that 3rd line back to the tank for
> vapor lock inhibition, try to get the pump without the 3rd line.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Zhookoff, George George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ken.
>> I'll cap off any "extra" outlets.
>>
>> Getting ready to pull the pump. Just about finished my coffee.
>> George
>>
>> George Zhookoff
>>
>>
>>>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Ken Henderson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> George,
>>>
>>> I just checked RockAuto. They show Carter M6108 for 350 and M6109
>> (3-line)
>>> for 403. So, yes, the "350" pump will work on the 403. I now recall
>> that
>>> NAPA part numbers are similar -- 1 number different for 2 and 3 line
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> Should be able to compare them before installation anyway.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Ken Henderson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George, surely they've got an electric pump in stock. Just mount it
>> ahead
>>>> of the Aux tank and power it from the selector valve. Should be hose
>> there
>>>> so no plumbing problem.
>>>>
>>>> Ken H.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, George Zhookoff >>> George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Wouldn't restart after fueling at Love's, Minden, La last night. Moved
>>>> > to safe parking by pour gas directly into carb.
>>>> > No 403 pumps available for a couple of days. O'Reilly can get a pump
>> for
>>>> > a 350 this morning.
>>>> > Question will a 350 pump work on a 403?
>>>> > As soon as Applied opens I'm calling jK.
>>>> > Headed west to Austin tx.
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304517 is a reply to message #304507] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 10:42 |
GMC Cruse
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George Zhookoff wrote on Fri, 29 July 2016 10:06No joy on mechanical pump.
Have a Mr Gasket electric pump headed here.
George Zhookoff
x2, of what Johnny said about the Mr. Gasket filter failing at the joint.
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304523 is a reply to message #304513] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 11:21 |
George Zhookoff
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Rob
No gas in crankcase.
George
George Zhookoff
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
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> George,
>
> Did the bad pump dump fuel into the crankcase?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Zhookoff, George
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:35 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump
>
> Thanks Ken.
> I'll cap off any "extra" outlets.
>
> Getting ready to pull the pump. Just about finished my coffee.
> George
>
> George Zhookoff
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304534 is a reply to message #304532] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 12:45 |
sgltrac
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Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Friday, July 29, 2016, A. wrote:
> I like this thread. Thursday night George can't get rolling after a fuel
> stop, figures out is the fuel pump and MacGyvers a move across the parking
> lot to someplace he can spend the night. 8:00 am the next morning he posts
> on GMCNet asking for suggestions. Consensus is he needs a Mr. Gasket
> electric pump Rube Goldburged into the selector switch wiring and
> plumbing. 11:22 am he is back on the road.
>
> That's what I'm talking about!
> --
> 73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
> 73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
> Upper Alabama
> "Highest price does not guarantee highest quality."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304556 is a reply to message #304534] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 19:36 |
George Zhookoff
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Well 8:30 pm Atlanta time. Parked in daughters drive way in Austin.
Mr Gasket pump plumbed into line before the mech pump. Power from cig lighter plug purchased at Loves.
2 replacements due here tomorrow for the mech pump.
Thanks to all who emailed. Don Vitra Austin GMC repair vendor called with both mech and electric part numbers.
What a group!!!!
George "it's not a trip, it's an adventure" Zhookoff
George Zhookoff
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
> 👍
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Seattle
>
>> On Friday, July 29, 2016, A. wrote:
>>
>> I like this thread. Thursday night George can't get rolling after a fuel
>> stop, figures out is the fuel pump and MacGyvers a move across the parking
>> lot to someplace he can spend the night. 8:00 am the next morning he posts
>> on GMCNet asking for suggestions. Consensus is he needs a Mr. Gasket
>> electric pump Rube Goldburged into the selector switch wiring and
>> plumbing. 11:22 am he is back on the road.
>>
>> That's what I'm talking about!
>> --
>> 73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
>> 73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
>> Upper Alabama
>> "Highest price does not guarantee highest quality."
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304667 is a reply to message #304556] |
Sun, 31 July 2016 22:19 |
jimk
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If you would have called me , I could have given you some part # of
electric pumps .
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Zhookoff, George <
George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
> Well 8:30 pm Atlanta time. Parked in daughters drive way in Austin.
>
> Mr Gasket pump plumbed into line before the mech pump. Power from cig
> lighter plug purchased at Loves.
>
> 2 replacements due here tomorrow for the mech pump.
>
> Thanks to all who emailed. Don Vitra Austin GMC repair vendor called with
> both mech and electric part numbers.
>
> What a group!!!!
>
> George "it's not a trip, it's an adventure" Zhookoff
>
> George Zhookoff
>
>
>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> 👍
>> Sully
>> 77 eleganza 2
>> Seattle
>>
>>> On Friday, July 29, 2016, A. wrote:
>>>
>>> I like this thread. Thursday night George can't get rolling after a fuel
>>> stop, figures out is the fuel pump and MacGyvers a move across the
> parking
>>> lot to someplace he can spend the night. 8:00 am the next morning he
> posts
>>> on GMCNet asking for suggestions. Consensus is he needs a Mr. Gasket
>>> electric pump Rube Goldburged into the selector switch wiring and
>>> plumbing. 11:22 am he is back on the road.
>>>
>>> That's what I'm talking about!
>>> --
>>> 73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
>>> 73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
>>> Upper Alabama
>>> "Highest price does not guarantee highest quality."
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bad Fuel Pump [message #304672 is a reply to message #304667] |
Mon, 01 August 2016 07:57 |
George Zhookoff
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Jim
That was my plan but being on east coast time by the time your shop opened parts were already headed my way.
As a matter of fact I called Thursday night thinking you might be in the office @ 9 PM!
George Zhookoff
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
>
> If you would have called me , I could have given you some part # of
> electric pumps .
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Zhookoff, George George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:
>
>> Well 8:30 pm Atlanta time. Parked in daughters drive way in Austin.
>>
>> Mr Gasket pump plumbed into line before the mech pump. Power from cig
>> lighter plug purchased at Loves.
>>
>> 2 replacements due here tomorrow for the mech pump.
>>
>> Thanks to all who emailed. Don Vitra Austin GMC repair vendor called with
>> both mech and electric part numbers.
>>
>> What a group!!!!
>>
>> George "it's not a trip, it's an adventure" Zhookoff
>>
>> George Zhookoff
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>>
>>> 👍
>>> Sully
>>> 77 eleganza 2
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 29, 2016, A. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I like this thread. Thursday night George can't get rolling after a fuel
>>>> stop, figures out is the fuel pump and MacGyvers a move across the
>> parking
>>>> lot to someplace he can spend the night. 8:00 am the next morning he
>> posts
>>>> on GMCNet asking for suggestions. Consensus is he needs a Mr. Gasket
>>>> electric pump Rube Goldburged into the selector switch wiring and
>>>> plumbing. 11:22 am he is back on the road.
>>>>
>>>> That's what I'm talking about!
>>>> --
>>>> 73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
>>>> 73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
>>>> Upper Alabama
>>>> "Highest price does not guarantee highest quality."
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Your coach is trying to tell you - it's too damn hot there.