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| Re: [GMCnet] SOS, stranded... (Problem solved, thanks!) [message #303067 is a reply to message #303064] |
Mon, 04 July 2016 18:58   |
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Matt Colie
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Registered: March 2007
Location: S.E. Michigan
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Ek_Lektro wrote on Mon, 04 July 2016 18:36hey Thanks for all the replies and tutorials!
Neutral safety trick didn't work, so we crawled under and shorted the solenoid
and boom,... fired up.
Chase will be on his way to MGM GMC to see Miguel tomorrow..
AutoZone starter is a 2 day wait anyway...
Thanks again, and back to the fireworks,
Cheers!
Greg
Greg and Chase,
Three things of varying importance.
The only thing between the start switch and the starter is the neutral safety switch. If you could crank it at the starter but not from the key with the NSS by-passed, then the ignition switch is probably Chase's problem. These are known to get out of adjustment. That switch is located down on the steering column. If it can be cranked from there. It is the column linkage (a common mode failure).
Though rebuilt starters are available after some delay (just as you discovered), the last time they were used in production 1978. They are no longer shelf stock in all but a few stores. The fact is that a bad starter will leave you very motionless and there is no "work around" that I know off. Therefore, in my 23' coach where storage is an absolute premium, I carry a back up starter. These starters are too robust for their own good and they will keep on cranking the engine long after they should have quit. When they do quit, it will be like a bad battery cable about two starts worth. Then, you are DONE.
This is how GMCnet usually works. Get on the Assist (aka Black's) list and be a part of the supporting family.
Matt - had his buns saved by the community a couple of times now.
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOS, stranded... (Problem solved, thanks!) [message #303075 is a reply to message #303064] |
Mon, 04 July 2016 22:22 |
Ken Burton
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If it started by jumping the solenoid coil then there is nothing wrong with the starter or solenoid. There are only three things in the circuit feeding the solenoid. The start switch (ignition switch) the neutral safety switch, and the wires connecting them.
The neutral safety switch and the ignition switch are located on the lower steering column and are easily replace able.
I have also seen this problem being a worn ignition key assembly. If this is worn, you can still go down the column and pull on the actual switch to get it to start. All three of these items are available cheap from AutoZone.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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