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WIRE HARNESS [message #301990] Fri, 10 June 2016 22:28 Go to next message
scheibejn is currently offline  scheibejn   United States
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The dash wiring on my 77 Kingsley 26 is a terrible mess. Is there a new wire loom available?
Jim Scheibe


Jim Scheibe 1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo, Oak Park Heights MN 55082 On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore
Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #301991 is a reply to message #301990] Fri, 10 June 2016 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are only used ones that are carefully removed.
A new one can be made, but it will be very expensive , mor like $1600.
We supply carefully removed unit for $900.
Your better of patching up your existing or find somone that has a
carefulluy removed one from someone.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:28 PM, James Scheibe wrote:

> The dash wiring on my 77 Kingsley 26 is a terrible mess. Is there a new
> wire loom available?
> Jim Scheibe
> --
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> 1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo,
> Oak Park Heights MN 55082
> On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore
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Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #301997 is a reply to message #301991] Sat, 11 June 2016 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scheibejn is currently offline  scheibejn   United States
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Thanks

Jim Scheibe 1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo, Oak Park Heights MN 55082 On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore
Re: WIRE HARNESS [message #301998 is a reply to message #301990] Sat, 11 June 2016 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It looks as if you could remove the dash cover and the glove box, and then carefully take the harness from the firewall plug across, as you remove it number or label each wire keep a list of numbers and where they go, you could renew any wires or connectors that are flaky. Make a lacing board out of a piece of plywood, and drive a brad in where each wire turns out of the harness. Draw the recepticle on the board with the corresponding number or label. Once the harness is laid out with the wires broken out at each brad, you can lace it with Ty-raps <tm> or tape it.

If you can source the connectors, you could set up a neat cottage industry making and selling these. The first one would be a hell of a job, but subsequent ones would be simple.

--johnny


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Re: WIRE HARNESS [message #302000 is a reply to message #301998] Sat, 11 June 2016 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks - I'm gonna try it.

Jim Scheibe 1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo, Oak Park Heights MN 55082 On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore
Re: WIRE HARNESS [message #302001 is a reply to message #301998] Sat, 11 June 2016 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim

You might look at American Autowire or similar harness manufacturers -- they have GM replacement harness and can add circuits as required.
Price looks like $200 and up for universal fit with new connectors.

http://www.americanautowire.com

Dennis

Johnny Bridges wrote on Sat, 11 June 2016 08:08
It looks as if you could remove the dash cover and the glove box, and then carefully take the harness from the firewall plug across, as you remove it number or label each wire keep a list of numbers and where they go, you could renew any wires or connectors that are flaky. Make a lacing board out of a piece of plywood, and drive a brad in where each wire turns out of the harness. Draw the recepticle on the board with the corresponding number or label. Once the harness is laid out with the wires broken out at each brad, you can lace it with Ty-raps <tm> or tape it.

If you can source the connectors, you could set up a neat cottage industry making and selling these. The first one would be a hell of a job, but subsequent ones would be simple.

--johnny


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Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #302002 is a reply to message #302001] Sat, 11 June 2016 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have made a harness for GMC motorhome. 1973 model. Burn job. Took me
quite a while. All the connectors were able to be used again as well as the
firewall connector and fuse block. Good luck on finding exact color coded
wire to duplicate the original stuff. If your connectors are no good, 'rots
a 'ruck finding that stuff too. Just a tedious job soldering and heat
shrinking those things. But if you are fastidious and like Rob Mueller, it
can be done.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jun 11, 2016 6:48 AM, "Dennis Sexton" wrote:

> Jim
>
> You might look at American Autowire or similar harness manufacturers --
> they have GM replacement harness and can add circuits as required.
> Price looks like $200 and up for universal fit with new connectors.
>
> http://www.americanautowire.com
>
> Dennis
>
> Johnny Bridges wrote on Sat, 11 June 2016 08:08
>> It looks as if you could remove the dash cover and the glove box, and
> then carefully take the harness from the firewall plug across, as you remove
>> it number or label each wire keep a list of numbers and where they go,
> you could renew any wires or connectors that are flaky. Make a lacing board
>> out of a piece of plywood, and drive a brad in where each wire turns out
> of the harness. Draw the recepticle on the board with the corresponding
>> number or label. Once the harness is laid out with the wires broken out
> at each brad, you can lace it with Ty-raps or tape it.
>>
>> If you can source the connectors, you could set up a neat cottage
> industry making and selling these. The first one would be a hell of a job,
> but
>> subsequent ones would be simple.
>>
>> --johnny
>
> --
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Memphis TN Metro
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Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #302003 is a reply to message #302002] Sat, 11 June 2016 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

Thanks for the compliment; however, I'd out source the wire harness if I needed one!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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From: James Hupy

I have made a harness for GMC motorhome. 1973 model. Burn job. Took me
quite a while. All the connectors were able to be used again as well as the
firewall connector and fuse block. Good luck on finding exact color coded
wire to duplicate the original stuff. If your connectors are no good, 'rots
a 'ruck finding that stuff too. Just a tedious job soldering and heat
shrinking those things. But if you are fastidious and like Rob Mueller, it
can be done.
Jim Hupy


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #302006 is a reply to message #302003] Sat, 11 June 2016 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, I was commenting on your trait of attention to even the smallest
details, no matter what the task. That is what it takes to do wire
harness. Not a job for the faint of heart. How are you holding up? Tough
times, I know, but it gets better.
Jim Hupy
On Jun 11, 2016 7:21 AM, "Rob Mueller" wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the compliment; however, I'd out source the wire harness if I
> needed one!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Hupy
>
> I have made a harness for GMC motorhome. 1973 model. Burn job. Took me
> quite a while. All the connectors were able to be used again as well as the
> firewall connector and fuse block. Good luck on finding exact color coded
> wire to duplicate the original stuff. If your connectors are no good, 'rots
> a 'ruck finding that stuff too. Just a tedious job soldering and heat
> shrinking those things. But if you are fastidious and like Rob Mueller, it
> can be done.
> Jim Hupy
>
>
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Re: WIRE HARNESS [message #302036 is a reply to message #301990] Sun, 12 June 2016 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You might want to revisit the idea of building an entire new harness. When my coach burned I had to rewire it but not everything was bad. So I simply started out on one bad wire and replaced it. Then I went to the next one. I was able to find connectors locally. I replaced almost all of the connectors because the dry power fire extinguisher destroyed everything electrical that it touched. I paid attention to the wire gauge and colors using the GMC wiring diagram and the remants of the old wire. I made almost all of them the same as before. It was not a major job.

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Re: WIRE HARNESS [message #302038 is a reply to message #302036] Sun, 12 June 2016 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has anyone had SUCCESS in grafting a Painless Harness (ie 1970-1983 GM Pickup)? or one of the Hot Rod kits?
Presumably, you have to redo the house part on you own, no?


Jim Gunther
www.LotusV6.com

now former owner - ;( 73 GMC-II 2600
by Explorer
Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #302039 is a reply to message #302038] Sun, 12 June 2016 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wire length is waaaaaay different. Connectors are similar. Cars don't have
dual batteries and isolators. But it could yield needed stuff. A starting
place for sure.
Jim Hupy
On Jun 12, 2016 3:38 AM, "Jim Gunther"
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> Has anyone had SUCCESS in grafting a Painless Harness (ie 1970-1983 GM
> Pickup)? or one of the Hot Rod kits?
> Presumably, you have to redo the house part on you own, no?
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Re: [GMCnet] WIRE HARNESS [message #302040 is a reply to message #302039] Sun, 12 June 2016 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DO NOT FORGET THE APC CABLE !
there are about 56 wires that can be damaged when the alternator goes
bonkers



On Sunday, June 12, 2016, James Hupy wrote:

> Wire length is waaaaaay different. Connectors are similar. Cars don't have
> dual batteries and isolators. But it could yield needed stuff. A starting
> place for sure.
> Jim Hupy
> On Jun 12, 2016 3:38 AM, "Jim Gunther" >
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone had SUCCESS in grafting a Painless Harness (ie 1970-1983 GM
>> Pickup)? or one of the Hot Rod kits?
>> Presumably, you have to redo the house part on you own, no?
>> --
>> Jim Gunther
>> www.LotusV6.com
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>> now former owner - ;(
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>> 73 GMC-II 2600
>> by Explorer
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Re: WIRE HARNESS [message #302045 is a reply to message #301990] Sun, 12 June 2016 10:38 Go to previous message
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If the next guy who makes one lays out the old harness on a lacing board and puts Visquine<rm> or somesuch under it and marks the wire lengths and connectors, it could be rolled up and lent to the next one.

--johnny


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