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kstockwell is currently offline  kstockwell   United States
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So I'm anticipating driving home a 78 Kingsley on Sunday. Driving over to check it out in person and unless there's something that wasn't obvious in the eleventy hundred photos or missed in the many conversations/invoices I'm in.

I know the PO will go over all his advice/gauges safe driving style- what else do you think I need to keep in mind on a 900 mile maiden voyage from Michigan to Vermont?
I'm under the assumption I can drive through Canada with paper tags provided I have the paperwork, anyone think that's a bad idea? Going through PA adds a lot of traffic, miles, cities and hours.

Windshield wiper motor is "ok" but the windshield is Rain-Xed, dash lights are not always reliable- he suggested driving during the day until I'm used to it (and has an amber light to illuminate the dash). There was mention of keeping the vacuum gauge at a certain level, lots of room for braking- etc. But what else? I have driven a large Coachman 28A and more recently a Sprinter Winnebago (C class) cross country.

Also, what do people (who have done it) think of the drive from Bennington VT to Brattleboro VT up over Searsburg. It's pretty steep; and there are sections in my current motorhome I tight knuckle it a bit, like the part where it feels like the top of a rollercoaster. Is it safer to stay on I-90 to Springfield MA and then drive north (adding 70 miles). Should I see how I'm feeling in Albany NY and play it by ear? I'm concerned with the down hills, my dad is concerned with the up hills (he's going with me on this journey). Hopefully a one way car rental and the motorhome drive home.

thank you
kelly
not yet...


1978 Kingsley Putney VT
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301664 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Only driving suggestion that I have, try to place your left foot on the road's white stripe. That should keep you in the middle of your available lane.
Consider stopping and refueling about every 200 miles until you feel you can trust the gas gauge. Check engine oil every fuel stop. Check transmission level, with engine running, during the first day.
It does not stop on a dime. Allow extra room. Those little Hondas that love to cut you off will not survive your 6 tons of Detroit metal.
Find the coaches sweet spot for highway speeds, mine likes 62-64 mph. Plan on 8 mpg and be happy if you better that.
Go up steep grades in 2nd, trying to keep the rpm's up.
Download the Black List and have towing insurance in place.
Have a blast!
Tom, MS II , who drove his first coach with 15 minutes of instruction from Denver to Lower Alabama.


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301668 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is that the one on Craigslist in Wyandotte? If so, I'm about 5 miles from Wyandotte if you need any help.

Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301671 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Driving through Canada may be faster, But driving through the states may open up more black listers if you find you need help.

If the PO doesnt supply it, Id get an assortment of fluids you may need. PS, Brake, coolant, oil. Grease everything that can be greased before you go with the PO. That way you know its done and you know where to put the grease gun next time.

Happy to see another Coach go to a good home, Sad that is leaving the home state.


77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301672 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi

Speaking as a proud Kanuk, I would respectfully suggest that you stick south of the border on your drive back to Vermont for several reasons:
1) Remember, you'll be getting 8 MPG and gas is a fair bit cheaper in the U.S.
2) If you are planning on crossing in western Michigan at Sault St Marie, you will be on the Trans Canada Highway in Ontario - very scenic, but two-lane highway till you get to near Ottawa
3) You will save yourself a ton of hassle at the border - both coming into Canada and then getting back into the U.S. These days you also need a valid passport to cross between our two friendly neighbor countries,

Then of course there's the Black List argument that 77 Royal has mentioned.

Good luck, and have fun!

Gordon


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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301674 is a reply to message #301672] Mon, 06 June 2016 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also as another Canadian who drives west for most vacations driving thru Toronto is painfull on the best of days. Take I 90 and put up with the tolls

John H. Bell
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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301686 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kstockwell wrote on Mon, 06 June 2016 08:21
So I'm anticipating driving home a 78 Kingsley on Sunday. Driving over to check it out in person and unless there's something that wasn't obvious in the eleventy hundred photos or missed in the many conversations/invoices I'm in.

I know the PO will go over all his advice/gauges safe driving style- what else do you think I need to keep in mind on a 900 mile maiden voyage from Michigan to Vermont?
I'm under the assumption I can drive through Canada with paper tags provided I have the paperwork, anyone think that's a bad idea? Going through PA adds a lot of traffic, miles, cities and hours.

Windshield wiper motor is "ok" but the windshield is Rain-Xed, dash lights are not always reliable- he suggested driving during the day until I'm used to it (and has an amber light to illuminate the dash). There was mention of keeping the vacuum gauge at a certain level, lots of room for braking- etc. But what else? I have driven a large Coachman 28A and more recently a Sprinter Winnebago (C class) cross country.

Also, what do people (who have done it) think of the drive from Bennington VT to Brattleboro VT up over Searsburg. It's pretty steep; and there are sections in my current motorhome I tight knuckle it a bit, like the part where it feels like the top of a rollercoaster. Is it safer to stay on I-90 to Springfield MA and then drive north (adding 70 miles). Should I see how I'm feeling in Albany NY and play it by ear? I'm concerned with the down hills, my dad is concerned with the up hills (he's going with me on this journey). Hopefully a one way car rental and the motorhome drive home.

thank you
kelly
not yet...

Kelly,

Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum....

Please come back with the actual location of the coach you are going to pick up. I am not in Michigan right now, but I can offer some valuable information when I know more. We go east from here frequently and Mary has family in Canada.

You do realize, that as soon as you actually be come a GMC owner, you have instantly acquired about a could thousand brand new old friends.

Matt - Parking other GMC friends in Goshen as I write.



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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301698 is a reply to message #301686] Mon, 06 June 2016 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kstockwell is currently offline  kstockwell   United States
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The CO (not a PO yet) just offered to drive it to me; I cover the one way rental car home for him- plus I'll throw in gas and tolls.
What a deal!

I'll see if he wants to meet in NY somewhere (has a brother there) to share the drive, but I don't think I can pass up that offer. I can still back out, he takes it home.
He says he's retired and has time on his hands and wants one last hurrah in the coach.

It's in Harbor Springs MI.

But, thank you all for the suggestions. Sounded like PA was the way to go and not Canada.

Look for more from me as I learn my butt from my elbow

cheers
kelly


1978 Kingsley Putney VT
Re: [GMCnet] maiden voyage suggestions [message #301701 is a reply to message #301698] Mon, 06 June 2016 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob is currently offline  Rob   United States
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That sounds like a good seller!

Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath

On 2016-06-06, at 2:32 PM, kelly stockwell wrote:

> The CO (not a PO yet) just offered to drive it to me; I cover the one way rental car home for him- plus I'll throw in gas and tolls.
> What a deal!
>
> I'll see if he wants to meet in NY somewhere (has a brother there) to share the drive, but I don't think I can pass up that offer. I can still back
> out, he takes it home.
> He says he's retired and has time on his hands and wants one last hurrah in the coach.
>
> It's in Harbor Springs MI.
>
> But, thank you all for the suggestions. Sounded like PA was the way to go and not Canada.
>
> Look for more from me as I learn my butt from my elbow
>
> cheers
> kelly
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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301709 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check air fares going back, if someone can meet him at an airport. F'rinstance, Burlington to Alpena is ~~500 bux. May be cheaper than a one way car rental by the time you figure gas and hotels.

--johnny (Who has sojourned in Alpena a time or two. Nice place in the summer)


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301714 is a reply to message #301698] Mon, 06 June 2016 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMC Cruse is currently offline  GMC Cruse   United States
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Sounds like a good CO soon to be PO.

The Wyandotte one, from it's pictures and description is, in my opinion, way over priced so glad to hear it wasn't that one.


Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301717 is a reply to message #301714] Mon, 06 June 2016 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kstockwell is currently offline  kstockwell   United States
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I offered a plane ticket (to Traverse City 70 miles from his home the ticket was the same as a one way rental) or to meet him in Syracuse which would cut 10 hours from his round trip.

I'm waiting to see if he's regretting the offer; but I bet he's not. From my short span of interactions I like him a lot.

Here it is, he put 6 new tires on it last week.
http://www.rvt.com/GMC-Kingsley-1978-Harbor-springs-MI-ID6870667-UX188154

Cheers
kelly

hopefully in a week....


1978 Kingsley Putney VT
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301718 is a reply to message #301664] Mon, 06 June 2016 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom, glad I'm not the only one who thinks embarking on an unknown adventure is fine; Denver to Lower Alabama!
-kelly


tphipps wrote on Mon, 06 June 2016 09:39
Only driving suggestion that I have, try to place your left foot on the road's white stripe. That should keep you in the middle of your available lane.
Consider stopping and refueling about every 200 miles until you feel you can trust the gas gauge. Check engine oil every fuel stop. Check transmission level, with engine running, during the first day.
It does not stop on a dime. Allow extra room. Those little Hondas that love to cut you off will not survive your 6 tons of Detroit metal.
Find the coaches sweet spot for highway speeds, mine likes 62-64 mph. Plan on 8 mpg and be happy if you better that.
Go up steep grades in 2nd, trying to keep the rpm's up.
Download the Black List and have towing insurance in place.
Have a blast!
Tom, MS II , who drove his first coach with 15 minutes of instruction from Denver to Lower Alabama.


1978 Kingsley Putney VT
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301745 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 06 June 2016 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's a nice looking coach.
Kelly, whereabouts in L.A.?

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301759 is a reply to message #301745] Tue, 07 June 2016 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kstockwell is currently offline  kstockwell   United States
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Johnny,
It was Tom who drove to Lower Alabama. I'm heading to Putney VT.

I'm pretty excited about the coach too, he's shared a ton more photos with me along with lots of other info on the PO to him.

looking like Saturday is my day!

-kelly


Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 06 June 2016 23:02
That's a nice looking coach.
Kelly, whereabouts in L.A.?

--johnny


1978 Kingsley Putney VT
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #301767 is a reply to message #301660] Tue, 07 June 2016 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, thanks, Tom I know - Far L.A. he is. I took a credit card and The Black List on my recent trip, only needed the card, and that only for gas. Miguel had to remind me via telephone about the Patton Museum, the aux tank switch has a purpose.

--johnny


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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #302085 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 13 June 2016 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kstockwell is currently offline  kstockwell   United States
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Mission accomplished.

The (now) PO drove it to Rome NY. I met him there and bought it- drove it home. We did not go across Rt 9 in VT, rather up around Bromley Ski Mt. Still steep and windy and slow going. 1st 1/2 hour was dicey; my steering was overcorrecting. I knew it was me- but I couldn't help it. It was like I was on ice sinusoidal movements. Took a food break- gas fill up and aimed more for the center white line- and it was like my driving was reset.

No further stress on the drive home.

Looking forward to learning more about this as we go.

Only question right now is the Galley switch doesn't seem to do anything.. what is it supposed to do? The other light switches turn things on.

Cheers
kelly
1978 Kingsley


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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #302089 is a reply to message #302085] Mon, 13 June 2016 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kstockwell wrote on Mon, 13 June 2016 17:59
...Only question right now is the Galley switch doesn't seem to do anything.. what is it supposed to do? The other light switches turn things on. ...
On my 73s that switch turns on the water pump. Is there water in the fresh water tank?
Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #302092 is a reply to message #302089] Mon, 13 June 2016 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a water pump switch (next to this one) It works.



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Re: maiden voyage suggestions [message #302093 is a reply to message #301660] Mon, 13 June 2016 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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My galley is double switched. By the door and the light above kitchen sink. So if one i think is switched wrong, the second does not do anything??



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