We can call it Roger B. List.
I personally know the man and he should be acknowledged.

--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Scott Nutter wrote:
> Jerry,
> lm a little surprised at your response. The black list is non judgemental
> of anyone, just in recognition of the person who had the idea of putting it
> together.
> i love the info that you have for our community. And no matter what, I
> will always consider you one of our more respected members. But please,
> tell me
> why the phrase "Black List" is so offensive. Just a observation,
> Respectfully, Scott Nutter
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 455 Royale Center Kitchen, Quad bags.
> Houston, Texas

wrote on Thu, 21 April 2016 12:23]

If we do not evolve, we get left behind and become artifacts. Today's youth doesn't care as much about history as it does about accessibility and understandability. Many of the newer/younger TZE owners don't have the patience/time to research the valuable artifacts.

I do love the Truman note to Gen. MacArthur and Adm.Nimitz
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by clean end!"
From a telegram of instructions about the surrender of Japan.

Ken, very well said !!. maybe we should just call it "The Beige List"


Thanks,

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA



-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken
Burton
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:55 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Black List

Leave it alone. If people want to participate they can. If people need
help, they can find it. If people want not to participate because of it's
name, that is to their detriment, not the participants.

IBM was once sued because of me because I taught a class using the terms
"master" and "slave" in multi-point communications. It was industry
standard terms at the time and a student found it offensive. The terms are
also used else where as example in hydraulics as in master and slave
cylinders.
Anyway, the case was thrown out. The terms were never changed, and it was
the student who lost out trying to prove a ridiculous point.

It was to his detriment that he chose not to use or understand recognized
names and terms. The same it true in this case.

Leave it alone. If the new users are told about it, it is their choice on
whether to participate or not.

Would you choose not use a car in England because the hood is called a
bonnet or not buy gasoline because it is called petrol? OR would you
simply
conform to existing names and go on your way?


--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Leave it alone. If people want to participate they can. If people need help, they can find it. If people want not to participate because of it's name, that is to their detriment, not the participants.

IBM was once sued because of me because I taught a class using the terms "master" and "slave" in multi-point communications. It was industry standard terms at the time and a student found it offensive. The terms are also used else where as example in hydraulics as in master and slave cylinders. Anyway, the case was thrown out. The terms were never changed, and it was the student who lost out trying to prove a ridiculous point.

It was to his detriment that he chose not to use or understand recognized names and terms. The same it true in this case.

Leave it alone. If the new users are told about it, it is their choice on whether to participate or not.

Would you choose not use a car in England because the hood is called a bonnet or not buy gasoline because it is called petrol? OR would you simply conform to existing names and go on your way?

Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 21 April 2016 08:48

I do love the Truman note to Gen. MacArthur and Adm.Nimitz
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by clean end!"
From a telegram of instructions about the surrender of Japan.

Matt -

I am a huge Harry Truman fan and had never come across this quote in the past. Now I know why:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/trumanpc.asp

And just my $.02, I like Ken H's solution: GMC Motorhome Assist List aka The Black List. Gives props to Roger and clarifies what it is, all at the same time.