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[GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297770] Mon, 21 March 2016 13:53 Go to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Netters

I had a brief glance at the Swepco site yesterday after someone mentioned
it on here.

http://www.swepcolube.com/products/swepco-306-supreme-formula-engine-oil

Of course I had a call today from a local retailer of the Swepco line.

Does anyone have an opinion on using HD #30 Swepco in my 403.
The engine only has a couple of long hauls left before it gets another
rebuild and since the factory manual said #30 I'm thinking..... should be a
good thing to do !

All opinions are welcome.

Mike in NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297777 is a reply to message #297770] Mon, 21 March 2016 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bwevers is currently offline  bwevers   United States
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Here's an interesting read.
http://www.firefightmarine.com/gmccoop/tips/new-oil-formulations/



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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297803 is a reply to message #297777] Mon, 21 March 2016 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Put a 15/50 WT OIL in and run it. The 30 wt is way to light for a hight milage motor.

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297819 is a reply to message #297770] Tue, 22 March 2016 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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Ahhhhh, the OIL ?'s, well, I have had customers who only run 30w oil, nothing else, and pennzoil at that, and, after many, many miles, the intake had a leak so, I pulled it off and never seen such a clean inside of a cam valley in my life, is oil just oil, no, it is not, we , here at the shop, use only Rotella T, 15w/40 oil, why?, well it has the highest zinc content and we just do not have engine problems and trust me, for those of you who have not been here in S California, anywhere we go, we have to climb out of one of 4 mountain ranges so, lot's of hard hauling , and then, throw in our over 100 deg. days during the summer months.

I am sure Swepco oils are great, but, I did a search for them here in California, didn't find a thing, I may not be looking in the right places so, I did a dealer search and nothing, I can order it!, sure, but then, on my long travels, I would have to carry a load of it to take with me, when I can just pull into a wal mart and get the rotella t or any truck stop if need be and pay 10.28 per gallon and just add what I need and carry a full gallon with me.

I will say, everyone has their own opinion which oil is best so, use what you like and feel the best with and all will be okay



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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297820 is a reply to message #297770] Tue, 22 March 2016 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Ahhhhh, the OIL ?'s,

Heh! You're on the web early this morning, Miguel.

I was mildly surprised that the known coach I just bought, with engine rebuilt by PO's-PO (a retired Delta mechanic) is running Amsoil.


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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297821 is a reply to message #297820] Tue, 22 March 2016 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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you might want to read this, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/oil-w-zinc-content-recommended-for-older-engines.138386/

Miguel

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297822 is a reply to message #297770] Tue, 22 March 2016 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, note that I didn't say I was HAPPY about it.

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297824 is a reply to message #297822] Tue, 22 March 2016 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THAT IS WHY I ONLY USE rotella T V15W/40 OIL, UNLESS CUSTOMER BRINGS IN HIS/HER OWN OIL

Miguel

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297825 is a reply to message #297821] Tue, 22 March 2016 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Miguel
Thanks for the comments.
I've been using Rotella 15-40 for several years and when I heard about
Swepco I wanted to know what others knew. The collective wisdom here is
much greater than anything I could ever bring to the table.

Mike in NS

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> you might want to read this,
> http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/oil-w-zinc-content-recommended-for-older-engines.138386/
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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297832 is a reply to message #297824] Tue, 22 March 2016 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Man, "And awaaaayyy we go" to quote Ralph Cramden (Jackie Gleason) in the
Honeymooners. If you really want to stir things up, let's talk synthetics
vs Dino oils. I just got a Blackstone oil report back yesterday. This was
on Joe Gibbs BR30 (5w/30) break in oil on a customers newly re manufactured
S and J 455 olds. That stuff is furnished with the engine and using
anything else will void the warranty. S and J think highly of the additive
package. Me? I follow their directions. I don't want even one warranty
claim back on me.
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> THAT IS WHY I ONLY USE rotella T V15W/40 OIL, UNLESS CUSTOMER BRINGS IN
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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297839 is a reply to message #297821] Tue, 22 March 2016 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ernest Dankert is currently offline  Ernest Dankert   United States
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Of the 25 or so AMSOIL gasoline engine oil blends; 3 have zinc. AMO 10w-40; ZRF 20w-50; and ZRT 10w-30.
I have used AMO in my 403 for 8 years. I change my fleet engine oils (and filter) once a year. I have
2 engine "saves" that I attribute to using synthetic; both aircooled engines that suffered a catastrophic
loss of oil. I am not a AMSOIL dealer; but believe in the product.


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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297841 is a reply to message #297821] Tue, 22 March 2016 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MIGUEL MENDEZ wrote on Tue, 22 March 2016 06:15
you might want to read this, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/oil-w-zinc-content-recommended-for-older-engines.138386/


Don't get it? Says Mobil 1 15 50 has no zink but Mobil 1 says it has 1300 parts per million. The oil analysis that came back from Blackstone says it has 1300 also?? Maybe they are mistaken?


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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297843 is a reply to message #297821] Tue, 22 March 2016 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Miguel,

You may want to recheck that website's data and age. It was written on
22OCT2006. I just got off the phone with Mobil-1's tech. and according
to them, their 15W-50 has .13% of ZDDP where the website you mentioned says
it has none. ....and if you want more ZDDP, their 20W-50 motorcycle oil has
it over their 15W-50.

just saying, not trying to get anything started here.

jim galbavy
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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297847 is a reply to message #297770] Tue, 22 March 2016 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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I've been running Amsoil Z-Rod for Classic cars with high ZDDP.

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2883.pdf

I know its expensive, but I only need to change the GMC once a year.


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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297848 is a reply to message #297770] Tue, 22 March 2016 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The oil link you gave is for API service SL oil. That is 3 designators prior to current SO standards. So it is an earlier type but new enough levels had been reduced. By API definition SL means phosphorus levels in the 600-1000 PPM range. That is below the recommended levels most find acceptable for non roller lifter engines. Keep in mind that levels drop as oil is put in service. Above 1300 there is no improved anti scuff property advantage. Above 1500 PPM the phoshorus starts to attack finished metal surfaces. The window is narrow so be careful with additives or you can do more harm than good. This is not an oil I would choose.

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297849 is a reply to message #297821] Tue, 22 March 2016 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi All

The information in that link is not very accurate.

He says Mobil 1 15W-50 has no Zinc. According to Mobil all their oils have some zinc, eight have 1100ppm or higher and 15W-50 is
1300ppm.

https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-product-specs-guide-2016.pdf

Amsoil list their zinc content here
http://www.amsoil.lube-direct.com/2011/07/high-zinc-oil-amsoil/

Dave Mumert

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Re: [GMCnet] Swepco oils [message #297858 is a reply to message #297849] Tue, 22 March 2016 14:15 Go to previous message
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Guy's, I didn't even notice that, I just opened the 1st and fired away, your right, does have 1300ppm and so on, good oil BTW, I just cannot keep that many oils in my shop to cater to everyone, and remember, when I do an oil change, I also got to be sure the oil we use is top notch


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