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cockpit headliner [message #296598] Wed, 02 March 2016 17:32 Go to next message
Duce Apocalypse is currently offline  Duce Apocalypse   United States
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I was wondering does anyone make a replacement cockpit headliner? mine is valling apart. 43 year old ABS finally giving up the funk.

Shan


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Re: cockpit headliner [message #296600 is a reply to message #296598] Wed, 02 March 2016 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
armandminnie is currently offline  armandminnie   United States
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Take it down, even in pieces, clean up the back of it and reinforce it with a layer of fiberglass fabric and plenty of ABS cement from the local home store. You can piece it back together where it cracked and fell apart. Multiple layers of ABS cement, with plenty of drying time between them, can be used to fill from the front.

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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296603 is a reply to message #296600] Wed, 02 March 2016 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Then cover it, or have it professionally covered, with a stretchable
headliner material. It'll look like new.

Ken H.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Armand Minnie wrote:

> Take it down, even in pieces, clean up the back of it and reinforce it
> with a layer of fiberglass fabric and plenty of ABS cement from the local
> home store. You can piece it back together where it cracked and fell apart.
> Multiple layers of ABS cement, with plenty of drying time between them, can
> be used to fill from the front.
> --
>
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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296605 is a reply to message #296603] Wed, 02 March 2016 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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What do you do if the edge has crumbled back an inch or more?

Dennis

Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 02 March 2016 18:30
Then cover it, or have it professionally covered, with a stretchable
headliner material. It'll look like new.

Ken H.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Armand Minnie wrote:

> Take it down, even in pieces, clean up the back of it and reinforce it
> with a layer of fiberglass fabric and plenty of ABS cement from the local
> home store. You can piece it back together where it cracked and fell apart.
> Multiple layers of ABS cement, with plenty of drying time between them, can
> be used to fill from the front.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296613 is a reply to message #296605] Wed, 02 March 2016 23:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Build it up oversize then trim to orig size.

Sully
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On Wednesday, March 2, 2016, Dennis Sexton wrote:

> What do you do if the edge has crumbled back an inch or more?
>
> Dennis
>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 02 March 2016 18:30
>> Then cover it, or have it professionally covered, with a stretchable
>> headliner material. It'll look like new.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Armand Minnie wrote:
>>
>>> Take it down, even in pieces, clean up the back of it and reinforce it
>>> with a layer of fiberglass fabric and plenty of ABS cement from the
> local
>>> home store. You can piece it back together where it cracked and fell
> apart.
>>> Multiple layers of ABS cement, with plenty of drying time between
> them, can
>>> be used to fill from the front.
>>> --
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296621 is a reply to message #296605] Thu, 03 March 2016 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
armandminnie is currently offline  armandminnie   United States
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If there are pieces missing you can buy pieces of ABS in various thicknesses from Tap Plastics. It comes in sheets and they will cut it to your order.

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Re: cockpit headliner [message #296622 is a reply to message #296598] Thu, 03 March 2016 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some small sheets of abs on amazon under 'Scientic & Industrial'

Also, there is a thin, gauze-like fiberglass tape in the drywall section of any big-box store like Lowes. It is slightly sticky on one side and very open-weave. You can work with it very well for this kind of repair (multiple layers work great because the open weave allows penetration of the gel, epoxy, or glue you're using) and it's dirt-cheap relative to buying f/g tape from marine suppliers.


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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296627 is a reply to message #296603] Thu, 03 March 2016 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just rebuilt mine. And painted it with spray cans of the color, Sail Cloth from REM. Takes two can to make it look perfect. And part of a can of the primer that's recommended for a good bond.. That fiber glass cloth with ABS cement works fantastic. If you're carfull. You can't even find your repaired cracks. It seems most of the plastic in our GMC's are ABS plastic. As I fixed the other pieces around the coach. I can send some photo's.Bob Dunahugh78 Royale The Mouse House
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Re: cockpit headliner [message #296628 is a reply to message #296598] Thu, 03 March 2016 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Remember to drill the end of cracks with a check-hole to help stop the crack from running.

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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296635 is a reply to message #296627] Thu, 03 March 2016 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used single sided carpet tape on the cracks in my rear cap. Seems to be holding pretty good.

JP
Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296637 is a reply to message #296627] Thu, 03 March 2016 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just rebuilt mine. And painted it with spray cans of the color, Sail Cloth from REM. Takes two can to make it look perfect. And part of a can of the primer that's recommended for a good bond.. That fiber glass cloth with ABS cement works fantastic. If you're carfull. You can't even find your repaired cracks. It seems most of the plastic in our GMC's are ABS plastic. As I've fixed other pieces around the coach. I can send some photo's.Bob Dunahugh78 Royale The Mouse House
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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296638 is a reply to message #296637] Thu, 03 March 2016 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Bob
I would like to see photos -- whenever it is convenient.
Thank you,

Thank you also to RC -- just spent time shopping at Lowes for material uses.

Dennis

BobDunahugh wrote on Thu, 03 March 2016 11:25
I just rebuilt mine. And painted it with spray cans of the color, Sail Cloth from REM. Takes two can to make it look perfect. And part of a can of the primer that's recommended for a good bond.. That fiber glass cloth with ABS cement works fantastic. If you're carfull. You can't even find your repaired cracks. It seems most of the plastic in our GMC's are ABS plastic. As I've fixed other pieces around the coach. I can send some photo's.Bob Dunahugh78 Royale The Mouse House
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Re: cockpit headliner [message #296640 is a reply to message #296598] Thu, 03 March 2016 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unfortunately for mine, the curtain rail got, pulled down accidentally, and chunks came out. also there is a lateral split from front to rear. So its in pretty rough shape...

73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
Re: cockpit headliner [message #296641 is a reply to message #296598] Thu, 03 March 2016 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought a 4x8 sheet of a thin, white pvc panel at Home Depot in Orlando for $17. It is *not* FRP, much thinner and bendable. If I were tackling your job, I'd use it as a backplate and assemble the headliner on it, glueing as I went (landau adhesive). Then I'd trim the backplate and cut out places where it wouldn't follow the radius of the curves in the cockpit panel. Once I got it assembled, I'd then address the face --probably cover it with cloth, but maybe try filling/patching/fairing it.

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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296643 is a reply to message #296640] Thu, 03 March 2016 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shan,

In addition to the recommendations from others for repairing your front
cap, you may want to plan ahead for more support, in case it sags in the
middle: The SMC outer cap has struts molded into it on the inside. I'd
suggest digging the foam out from between some of those near the middle.
Install wooden blocks with screws horizontally through the struts, perhaps
also using Liquid Nails or similar to glue them in. Take photos or
otherwise remember where those "nailers" are located so you can install a
couple of finish screws after the cap is installed.

You might also so want to consider installing an overhead console, as some
have done. You'll need to pre-position "nailers" for it also. Installing
that might cover a lot of blemishes and add significant strength.

Ken H.


On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Shan Rose wrote:

> Unfortunately for mine, the curtain rail got, pulled down accidentally,
> and chunks came out. also there is a lateral split from front to rear. So
> its
> in pretty rough shape...
>
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Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296646 is a reply to message #296643] Thu, 03 March 2016 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do not know where you are located, (signature line?) but a men's mall near Tampa Fl has a 1977 GMC that ;has been pretty much stripped of all it's usable parts. But the front headliner and rear headliner were still there in January. Be tricky to move far, but if local, I can see doing it.
Tom, MS II


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Re: cockpit headliner [message #296648 is a reply to message #296598] Thu, 03 March 2016 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a good head liner. PM sent.

Tom McManus
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Chesapeake VA
Re: [GMCnet] cockpit headliner [message #296678 is a reply to message #296637] Fri, 04 March 2016 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I sent photo's to Dennis S. If anyone is interested. Let me know.

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Re: cockpit headliner [message #296738 is a reply to message #296598] Sat, 05 March 2016 10:09 Go to previous message
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I'm in the process rebuilding the ceiling of my coach. Repaired cracks in plastic pieces with JB weld and fiberglass matt. Hired an interior expert to attach vinyl to all the ceiling pieces. He only uses Landeau adhesives. Applying vinyl to the plastic pieces is a job for an expert in my opinion. While ceilling is down, I'm replacing all the clearance lights with one piece LED units and installing a backup camera system. Just information for your consideration.
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