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[GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296312] Sat, 27 February 2016 15:22 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

As you can see below Ken Burton provided this link: https://www.lelandwest.com/brake-fluid-comparison-chart.cfm under a different
subject and to make it easy to find with the GMC Forum Search function I've plagiarized it and sent it back in under the Subject:
Brake Fluid Comparison Chart.

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Brake Fluid Comparison Chart

Updated Feb 24, 2016: AFCO, Amsoil, AP Racing, Bel-Ray, Comar (69 different fluids currently listed).

Here is a comparison of all automotive performance/racing brake fluids showing cost per ounce, SKU unit size, compatibility with
other fluids and most importantly wet and dry boiling points. Each column is sortable, making it a lot easier to figure out not only
the best performer but the best value for your needs.

Prices are more or less best-on-the-web as of the update date. Have a suggestion for an addition to this page? Contact me from my
byline link below.

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Unfortunately when I clicked on a number of the small circled i's the links were broken.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:22 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Make your brakes safer in panic stops,and in the Mountains

What you are interested in is the wet boiling point.

DOT3 284F
DOT4 311F
ATE Blue 396F
Ford 290F

https://www.lelandwest.com/brake-fluid-comparison-chart.cfm
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Hebron, Indiana



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Re: [GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296324 is a reply to message #296312] Sat, 27 February 2016 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Rob, No DOT 5 data listed.
Tom, MS II


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: [GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296326 is a reply to message #296312] Sat, 27 February 2016 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Rob

There are actually about 3 companies making all of the brands you have listed.
They private label it to the other companies that market it.

Your list is good though as it gives the names of the brands available in the stores as one cannot but directly from the manufacturers unless you want to buy tankcars or tanktrucks at a time.

Emery Stora

> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> G'day,
>
> As you can see below Ken Burton provided this link: https://www.lelandwest.com/brake-fluid-comparison-chart.cfm under a different
> subject and to make it easy to find with the GMC Forum Search function I've plagiarized it and sent it back in under the Subject:
> Brake Fluid Comparison Chart.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Brake Fluid Comparison Chart
>
> Updated Feb 24, 2016: AFCO, Amsoil, AP Racing, Bel-Ray, Comar (69 different fluids currently listed).
>
> Here is a comparison of all automotive performance/racing brake fluids showing cost per ounce, SKU unit size, compatibility with
> other fluids and most importantly wet and dry boiling points. Each column is sortable, making it a lot easier to figure out not only
> the best performer but the best value for your needs.
>
> Prices are more or less best-on-the-web as of the update date. Have a suggestion for an addition to this page? Contact me from my
> byline link below.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Unfortunately when I clicked on a number of the small circled i's the links were broken.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:22 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Make your brakes safer in panic stops,and in the Mountains
>
> What you are interested in is the wet boiling point.
>
> DOT3 284F
> DOT4 311F
> ATE Blue 396F
> Ford 290F
>
> https://www.lelandwest.com/brake-fluid-comparison-chart.cfm
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296334 is a reply to message #296324] Sun, 28 February 2016 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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The maker of that chart did not include DOT 5 as he stated on the bottom of it. He did so because DOT 5 is only recommended for a few limited environments which do not apply to his posting or the GMC.



Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296346 is a reply to message #296334] Sun, 28 February 2016 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DOT 5 Specs (per Wikipedia) Dry 260 C / 500 F Wet 180 C / 356 F

P.O. installed it in my coach. The cost to replace everything is not cheap. Brakes work, that is all I ask.
Tom, Ms II


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: [GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296351 is a reply to message #296346] Sun, 28 February 2016 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Tom,

Just wondering if you have flushed the DOT 5 since you've owned the Avion?

As Ken noted water can gather in low spots and freeze or cause inside of parts to rust.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Phipps

DOT 5 Specs (per Wikipedia) Dry 260 C / 500 F Wet 180 C / 356 F

P.O. installed it in my coach. The cost to replace everything is not cheap. Brakes work, that is all I ask.
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Brake Fluid Comparison Chart [message #296403 is a reply to message #296351] Mon, 29 February 2016 10:11 Go to previous message
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The biggest problem with dot 5 is that if water enters the system, it will remain separated and collect in the lowest points of the system. Because of this, a normal bleeding will not remove the water due to bleeders being at the high points of each component.

I have noticed a few often overlooked facts of DOT 5. Since it is not hydroscopic, it will not absorb moisture from the atmosphere. Since it is silicone based, it tends to do a good job of repelling moisture. It also provides a very good lubricating base for the rubber components.

IMO
In a properly functioning and properly sealed brake system, water accumulation SHOULD take years to occur if at all. I found evidence of moisture in one of my cars after it had seen close to 10 years of 4 season service here in Montreal with DOT 5. The moisture evidence did not impede function or reliability.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
The EWIP (Eternal Work In Progress)


> On Feb 28, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Just wondering if you have flushed the DOT 5 since you've owned the Avion?
>
> As Ken noted water can gather in low spots and freeze or cause inside of parts to rust.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Phipps
>
> DOT 5 Specs (per Wikipedia) Dry 260 C / 500 F Wet 180 C / 356 F
>
> P.O. installed it in my coach. The cost to replace everything is not cheap. Brakes work, that is all I ask.
> Tom, Ms II
> --
> 1975 GMC Avion
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