| Stripping roof [message #296164] |
Thu, 25 February 2016 12:14  |
Jim Galbavy
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I'm starting a new thread ilo ROOF PAINT.
Well, this week started week 2 of stripping ANNIE's roof for ROOF MOLDING
(as per the GMC description manual) or as we around here call it SIDE DRIP
RAILS, new sealant, paint and misc. what the heck is that.
Monday and Tuesday morning was a wash waiting for an open bay at the COOP.
Was under a "car port" of such but with all of the roof penetrations exposed and heavy
rain in the forecast we had to get ANNIE in an enclosed bay. Tuesday after
lunch we stripped off the two awnings and moved her in doors. Now started
pulling off the Rubber covers that a PO had installed ilo Roof moldings when
ANNIE painted. Screw holes are there so it looks like the moldings were trashed
and replaced with rubber. At first glance I thought I would be at the paint stage
by the end of this week. No way. Looks like I have about at least another week to
week and a half of digging out old sealant and prep for paint.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296191 is a reply to message #296183] |
Thu, 25 February 2016 17:23  |
Jim Galbavy
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George and Rob,
So far I'm only seeing one broken off screw and one broken roof rivet.
I have bought Torx head SS screws to go back on and will reinforce before
and after the broken roof with new. We'll see if the screw holes from the
'78 Roof Mold line up with my '73 screw holes. If not we'll be drilling
and tapping. The BIG job right now that I see is digging the 3 generations
of old sealant and dirt out of the grooves under where the roof molds will
cover. ....then sanding and new sealants.
George, little secret: If you will be removing OEM screws, they will be steel
Torx head except the 4 on the end caps that will be steel head Phillips screws.
When removing the screws, tap on them first to try and break the rust bond.
Yeah.....
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296604 is a reply to message #296601] |
Wed, 02 March 2016 18:31 |
Ken Henderson
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Glad to hear you're having fun, Jim! :-)
Ken H.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Jim Galbavy wrote:
> Have been working digging out the hockey pucky repair(?) job that was
> under the roof moldings. '73s had moldings just not w/ the gutters. So
> this can be called an upgrade. The repairs were a bear. Looked like
> they used tar, 3M sealer, caulk and sillycone. But finished cleaning
> that phase this evening. Only the last 6 inches at the rear pass. side
> cap has been water damaged with rot. We'll see how intensive it is in
> the morning and then make a patch from a donor coach. Will also start
> sanding the rest of the roof and prepping for paint.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296609 is a reply to message #296604] |
Wed, 02 March 2016 20:36 |
Jim Galbavy
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I can think of another word for it. ....... but fun?
At least I have a new appreciation for the coach. It has fought me
literally every inch of the way, up one side and down the other.
And I have learned that any job will take 4 or 5 times longer to do
and don't even try to put a price on the initial estimate at first
glance.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296610 is a reply to message #296609] |
Wed, 02 March 2016 20:57 |
stick miller
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Makes my back hurt just reading your post.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296611 is a reply to message #296601] |
Wed, 02 March 2016 21:56 |
Dennis S
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Jim
If you're curious -- Bill Bryant says the gutters appeared on 1973 coaches about V102008-V102024.
Thanks for the updates.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/production-changes/p4732-drip-gutter.html
Dennis
Jim Galbavy wrote on Wed, 02 March 2016 18:21Have been working digging out the hockey pucky repair(?) job that was
under the roof moldings. '73s had moldings just not w/ the gutters. So
this can be called an upgrade. The repairs were a bear. Looked like
they used tar, 3M sealer, caulk and sillycone. But finished cleaning
that phase this evening. Only the last 6 inches at the rear pass. side
cap has been water damaged with rot. We'll see how intensive it is in
the morning and then make a patch from a donor coach. Will also start
sanding the rest of the roof and prepping for paint.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296649 is a reply to message #296601] |
Thu, 03 March 2016 17:18 |
Jim Galbavy
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Ok, Thursday came and went. Addressed sillycone issues at the front and rear cap
seams, digging them out. Then removed pucky from the TV antenna, one of two
FANTASTIC VENTS, rear clearance lights, & awning seams. Tomorrow will finish up the
rest of the misc. seams. Kevin wants to sand and prep the roof Saturday, when there
are no distractions. Then paint sometime early next week give it a day or so then
start reassembling.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296650 is a reply to message #296649] |
Thu, 03 March 2016 17:25 |
George Zhookoff
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Jim,
Thanks for the update. Do you know screw and tap size for the replacement drip rail hardware?
George
78 EL II
Atlanta
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Galbavy
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof
Ok, Thursday came and went. Addressed sillycone issues at the front and rear cap seams, digging them out. Then removed pucky from the TV antenna, one of two FANTASTIC VENTS, rear clearance lights awning seams. Tomorrow will finish up the rest of the misc. seams. Kevin wants to sand and prep the roof Saturday, when there are no distractions. Then paint sometime early next week give it a day or so then start reassembling.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296651 is a reply to message #296649] |
Thu, 03 March 2016 17:30 |
James Hupy
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I don't have any sealants with silicone in my shop. That stuff is miserable
to remove completely. The slightest bit of residual will prevent other
sealants or many paints from bonding. I hate it. One of my previous owners
filled everything with silicone seal, then covered it over with bondo type
filler. Talk about a bitch to remove.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mar 3, 2016 3:19 PM, "Jim Galbavy" wrote:
> Ok, Thursday came and went. Addressed sillycone issues at the front and
> rear cap
> seams, digging them out. Then removed pucky from the TV antenna, one of
> two
> FANTASTIC VENTS, rear clearance lights awning seams. Tomorrow will finish
> up the
> rest of the misc. seams. Kevin wants to sand and prep the roof Saturday,
> when there
> are no distractions. Then paint sometime early next week give it a day or
> so then
> start reassembling.
>
> jim galbavy
> '73 x-CL ANNIE
> Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296666 is a reply to message #296663] |
Thu, 03 March 2016 20:44 |
James Hupy
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Some old timer told me once " What don't kill you, makes you stronger".
Sounds like this might be one of those times. Hang in there, Jim and I 'll
see you somewhere down the road.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mar 3, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jim Galbavy" wrote:
> JimH,
>
> I think I can truthfully say "I feel your pain". Jim, this the hardest
> prep job I've ever tried. Thank God that I have Kevin (a true paint and
> body man) to get me started in the morning and make sure a couple times a
> day that I'm on still on course. Some POs and their shops did some bad
> stuff
> to the old girl, but we are making it right. The work today was not as
> hard
> or intense as the last week's was. I'm still hurting tonight but not as
> bad
> as the last few days. I guess my days as an officer spoiled me for hard
> labor, but I'll live and survive.
>
> ;)
>
> jim galbavy
> '73 x-CL ANNIE
> Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stripping roof [message #296674 is a reply to message #296666] |
Fri, 04 March 2016 00:02 |
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Jim,
That old timer was a devotee of Friedrich Nietzsche who noted; "Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich starker."
Which translates to:
That which does not kill me, makes me stronger.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy
Some old timer told me once " What don't kill you, makes you stronger".
Sounds like this might be one of those times. Hang in there, Jim and I 'll
see you somewhere down the road.
Jim
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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