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Wed, 24 February 2016 09:37

rcjordan

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Over at FB, a new owner of a '74 can't ID the model. They'll work it out. But, according to the GMC Registry "If the motorhome was furnished with a GMC interior, the label in the glovebox identifies the interior finish model, except for '73 & '74 models." So, how do we identify the original model, particularly if it's been significantly remodeled over the years?

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Re: [GMCnet] Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296105 is a reply to message #296096]

Wed, 24 February 2016 11:53

Gary Worobec

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You can tell it is a 73 because the driver is laughing as he goes by a
California DMV smog test station :)

Thanks,

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA

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Over at FB, a new owner of a '74 can't ID the model. They'll work it out.
But, according to the GMC Registry "If the motorhome was furnished with a
GMC interior, the label in the glovebox identifies the interior finish
model, except for '73 & '74 models." So, how do we identify the original
model, particularly if it's been significantly remodeled over the years?
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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296108 is a reply to message #296096]

Wed, 24 February 2016 12:30

Dennis S

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RC

If the coach happens to be in the registry, the model is usually recorded there.

If the interior is extensively replaced you may still find original carpet remnants either under the frig or under the bath module. It seems the modules were set down on the carpet. Then link the carpet to the model per Bill Bryant's interior color palette on the photo site.

Dennis

rcjordan wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 09:37

Over at FB, a new owner of a '74 can't ID the model. They'll work it out. But, according to the GMC Registry "If the motorhome was furnished with a GMC interior, the label in the glovebox identifies the interior finish model, except for '73 & '74 models." So, how do we identify the original model, particularly if it's been significantly remodeled over the years?

Dennis S
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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296112 is a reply to message #296108]

Wed, 24 February 2016 13:33

Dennis S

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RC

You might also look at Bill's info regarding the Gemini build sheet.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-mh-model-identification-by-interior/p32360-gemini-build-sheet-2c-1973-74.html

Dennis

Dennis S wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 12:30

RC

If the coach happens to be in the registry, the model is usually recorded there.

If the interior is extensively replaced you may still find original carpet remnants either under the frig or under the bath module. It seems the modules were set down on the carpet. Then link the carpet to the model per Bill Bryant's interior color palette on the photo site.

Dennis

rcjordan wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 09:37
Over at FB, a new owner of a '74 can't ID the model. They'll work it out. But, according to the GMC Registry "If the motorhome was furnished with a GMC interior, the label in the glovebox identifies the interior finish model, except for '73 & '74 models." So, how do we identify the original model, particularly if it's been significantly remodeled over the years?

Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296113 is a reply to message #296096]

Wed, 24 February 2016 13:39

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rcjordan wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 09:37

...according to the GMC Registry "If the motorhome was furnished with a GMC interior, the label in the glovebox identifies the interior finish model, except for '73 & '74 models."?...

I don't know what that means. Both of my '73s have the sticker on the glovebox door. If its not there, someone removed it, but it was there when it left GM.

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296115 is a reply to message #296112]

Wed, 24 February 2016 13:44

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Dennis S wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 12:33

RC

You might also look at Bill's info regarding the Gemini build sheet.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-mh-model-identification-by-interior/p32360-gemini-build-sheet-2c-1973-74.html

Dennis

Dennis S wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 12:30
RC

If the coach happens to be in the registry, the model is usually recorded there.

If the interior is extensively replaced you may still find original carpet remnants either under the frig or under the bath module. It seems the modules were set down on the carpet. Then link the carpet to the model per Bill Bryant's interior color palette on the photo site.

Dennis

rcjordan wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 09:37
Over at FB, a new owner of a '74 can't ID the model. They'll work it out. But, according to the GMC Registry "If the motorhome was furnished with a GMC interior, the label in the glovebox identifies the interior finish model, except for '73 & '74 models." So, how do we identify the original model, particularly if it's been significantly remodeled over the years?

If it was a GM furnished model it would not have been a Transmode. If the 4th digit is a 3 it was a Transmode and fitted by someone else.

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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Wed, 24 February 2016 14:02

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OOPS--if 4th digit is a 3, it was a Transmode.

Bob de Kruyff
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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296119 is a reply to message #296118]

Wed, 24 February 2016 14:24

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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 14:02

OOPS--if 4th digit is a 3, it was a Transmode.

Bob
According to the production numbers there weren't transmodes in 73/74.

Dennis

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296121 is a reply to message #296096]

Wed, 24 February 2016 15:08

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To claify, the glovebox sticker is there, but it must lack whatever it takes to identify the model.

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296125 is a reply to message #296121]

Wed, 24 February 2016 17:27

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The easy one is the Sequoia as it is the only one without dark wood vinyl on the cabinet doors and other surface.
Then you have the bathroom sliding doors and the panel under the window, green Sequoia, blue glacier (the same with the fabric, carpet counter top and so on)
The problem comes to the Canyon land and Painted desert, both use the "orange" color, as far as I know so is the only difference between them the carpet and fabric, there might be that the "orange" color is a hint more red on the painted desert but I have no proof of that

1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296126 is a reply to message #296121]

Wed, 24 February 2016 17:29

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rcjordan wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 22:08

To claify, the glovebox sticker is there, but it must lack whatever it takes to identify the model.

It does not on the 73/74, well that is for the regular option codes, there might be other codes used, will try to figure it out

1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway

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Wed, 24 February 2016 17:38

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The glove box sticker says Model # ZE 06581, ZEO 6581 is found in the 78Z Parts book page 1 and on page two it is stating that it is a 26'motorhome, not much help there.
The VIN is TZE064V100593

1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296138 is a reply to message #296127]

Wed, 24 February 2016 19:53

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The 1973 & 1974 Service Parts Identification (glove box sticker) did not identify the name of the models on the sticker in 1973-74.
The early 1973s also left the sequence number blank e.g. TZE063V(blank) until sequence ~500 (~V100500). Then it was typed in until ~2200 when the complete 6 digit sequence number was completely printed.

Other information such as build date, color, options, etc were shown on all years stickers.

Model years 1975 through 1978 listed the model name on the sticker for GMC interiors as well as the details noted above. TransModes were only listed as TransModes( upfitters usually stuck their ID someplace on a cabinet), Coachmen actually stamped their serial number on the right rear bumper bracket.

The Parrot Green (73 Sequoia color only) was the only single model color along with the lighter interior wood color, other colors were available on multiple models for 73-74.

As noted, about the only way to determine a 73-74 original model of a modified coach is to look for rug or upholstery samples trapped under modules or furniture.
Good luck,
Bill

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296139 is a reply to message #296096]

Wed, 24 February 2016 20:17

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Thanks, Bill. Loffen has them just about to that point over on FB, I pass that along.

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Re: Identifying a 73-74 GMC fitted model? [message #296242 is a reply to message #296119]

Fri, 26 February 2016 11:51

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Dennis S wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 13:24

Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 14:02
OOPS--if 4th digit is a 3, it was a Transmode.

Bob
According to the production numbers there weren't transmodes in 73/74.

Dennis

Interesting--how could a coach be an upfitter coach unless it was built as a Transmode?

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