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| Camrea video [message #295004] |
Wed, 03 February 2016 18:20  |
jhbridges
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I have received my three heathen chinee cameras. Now I need a solution which does a horizontal screen split and a vertical screen split using NTSC video input. I propose to put the backup camera on the top half of a small display, and the two rear mirror mount cameras on either side of the bottom half. The cameras, at 8 bux each, are just over half an inch square, run on 5V, and output NTSC video on a 75 ohm line. I could build up one 5V supply, but three pin regulators are so cheeep it's probably simpler to just run one for each camera and feed them house battery for power. Probably less expensive than wires to each from a common supply. It looks like a salt shaker with a piece of window glass epoxied to the top may well make a nice waterproof mount/heatsink for them. Or a cheap small waterproof flashlight with the guts removed. Anybody got a couple of small MagLites kicking around?
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295005 is a reply to message #295004] |
Wed, 03 February 2016 18:30  |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
I just canned one of the little 1" OD x 3" LED flashlights with the rubber
covered push button on the end opposite the 9 (or so) LED's -- take 3 AAA's
in a holder. Sounds like just what you need. I've probably got one or two
more. I'll dig that one out tomorrow & look for more.
Is dark blue anodized OK? :-)
Ken H.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I have received my three heathen chinee cameras. Now I need a solution
> which does a horizontal screen split and a vertical screen split using NTSC
> video input. I propose to put the backup camera on the top half of a
> small display, and the two rear mirror mount cameras on either side of the
> bottom half. The cameras, at 8 bux each, are just over half an inch
> square, run on 5V, and output NTSC video on a 75 ohm line. I could build
> up one
> 5V supply, but three pin regulators are so cheeep it's probably simpler to
> just run one for each camera and feed them house battery for power.
> Probably less expensive than wires to each from a common supply. It looks
> like a salt shaker with a piece of window glass epoxied to the top may well
> make a nice waterproof mount/heatsink for them. Or a cheap small
> waterproof flashlight with the guts removed. Anybody got a couple of small
> MagLites
> kicking around?
>
> --johnny
>
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295035 is a reply to message #295005] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 11:12 |
tphipps
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Johnny, Harbor Freight free LED flashlights would provide an excellent container. Hope Ken can find his. I just tossed 3 out. It is cheaper to get another one than to replace the batteries.
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| Re: Camrea video [message #295068 is a reply to message #295004] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 19:35 |
jhbridges
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Hadn't thought of those. If Ken has a couple, they'll do handsomely. We got them six to a package at work, and just hung one in each rack. When they quit, hang another one, not worth it to even look at the batteries. They should do fine.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295075 is a reply to message #295068] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 19:45 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
I found the dead flashlight I trashed, but no other inoperative ones. Send
me a mailing address & I'll try to get it out tomorrow. Unless you've
already found a couple of dead ones at work.
Ken H.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> Hadn't thought of those. If Ken has a couple, they'll do handsomely. We
> got them six to a package at work, and just hung one in each rack. When
> they quit, hang another one, not worth it to even look at the batteries.
> They should do fine.
>
> --johnny
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295118 is a reply to message #295005] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 14:38 |
Ken Henderson
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Darn, I'm upset! Not the first time, by any means, but this is absurd!!! I
want SOMEONE to explain to me what kind of trade agreements our so-called
representatives have "negotiated" for us. It's well known that they are
not advantageous to us by any means, but the trivial situation I'm about to
describe dramatically illustrates what a rip-off we're experiencing:
IAW this thread, I found the inoperative flashlight that Johnny wanted to
try as a housing for his video camera. I found it and put it in a padded
envelope to mail to him, less batteries. I just returned from the post
office where I paid $2.54 for "cheapest way" postage to him, 171 miles
away, here in Georgia.
Now the totally incomprehensible:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-9-LED-Mini-Ultra-Bright-Torch-Flashlights-Torch-Blue-Aluminium-G-/351624178821?hash=item51de6f2c85:g:s74AAOSwX~dWj7F3
That's right -- he could have ordered virtually the same item, brand new,
with FREE SHIPPING from Shenzhen, China, for $0.72!!!
How can that be? Even if they want to give the product away, how can they
ship it to the US, then pay the US Postal service to deliver it for LESS
THAN WE PAY USPS???
Makes NO sense to me. Even though I take frequent advantage of it, it's an
outrage which MUST BE CORRECTED if we are to survive as an industrial
society. Multiply even these trivial examples by their number and we're
talking real money. Just imagine what the big-buck transactions look
like!!!
Rant off -- temporarily.
Which one of Les Miserables running will even pretend to do anything about
such as this?
Ken H.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Johnny,
>
> I just canned one of the little 1" OD x 3" LED flashlights with the rubber
> covered push button on the end opposite the 9 (or so) LED's -- take 3 AAA's
> in a holder. Sounds like just what you need. I've probably got one or two
> more. I'll dig that one out tomorrow & look for more.
>
> Is dark blue anodized OK? :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Johnny Bridges
> wrote:
>
>> I have received my three heathen chinee cameras. Now I need a solution
>> which does a horizontal screen split and a vertical screen split using NTSC
>> video input. I propose to put the backup camera on the top half of a
>> small display, and the two rear mirror mount cameras on either side of the
>> bottom half. The cameras, at 8 bux each, are just over half an inch
>> square, run on 5V, and output NTSC video on a 75 ohm line. I could build
>> up one
>> 5V supply, but three pin regulators are so cheeep it's probably simpler
>> to just run one for each camera and feed them house battery for power.
>> Probably less expensive than wires to each from a common supply. It
>> looks like a salt shaker with a piece of window glass epoxied to the top
>> may well
>> make a nice waterproof mount/heatsink for them. Or a cheap small
>> waterproof flashlight with the guts removed. Anybody got a couple of small
>> MagLites
>> kicking around?
>>
>> --johnny
>>
>> --
>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>> Braselton, Ga.
>>
>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295120 is a reply to message #295118] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 15:45 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
If I remember International Trade 101 correctly the only thing that is illegal is if a country sells a product in the USA for less
than what it sells for in their country the USA is OK. If they do sell it for less in the USA it's called Dumping.
The Chinese government subsidizes the postage, HOWEVER, I agree with you that unless the Chinese government pays the US government
to deliver the package (which I doubt) it is WRONG!
Regards,
Rob M.
"Seconding Ken's Rant"
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 7:38 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video
Darn, I'm upset! Not the first time, by any means, but this is absurd!!! I
want SOMEONE to explain to me what kind of trade agreements our so-called
representatives have "negotiated" for us. It's well known that they are
not advantageous to us by any means, but the trivial situation I'm about to
describe dramatically illustrates what a rip-off we're experiencing:
IAW this thread, I found the inoperative flashlight that Johnny wanted to
try as a housing for his video camera. I found it and put it in a padded
envelope to mail to him, less batteries. I just returned from the post
office where I paid $2.54 for "cheapest way" postage to him, 171 miles
away, here in Georgia.
Now the totally incomprehensible:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-9-LED-Mini-Ultra-Bright-Torch-Flashlights-Torch-Blue-Aluminium-G-/351624178821?hash=item51de6f2c85:g:s74
AAOSwX~dWj7F3
That's right -- he could have ordered virtually the same item, brand new,
with FREE SHIPPING from Shenzhen, China, for $0.72!!!
How can that be? Even if they want to give the product away, how can they
ship it to the US, then pay the US Postal service to deliver it for LESS
THAN WE PAY USPS???
Makes NO sense to me. Even though I take frequent advantage of it, it's an
outrage which MUST BE CORRECTED if we are to survive as an industrial
society. Multiply even these trivial examples by their number and we're
talking real money. Just imagine what the big-buck transactions look
like!!!
Rant off -- temporarily.
Which one of Les Miserables running will even pretend to do anything about
such as this?
Ken H.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Johnny,
>
> I just canned one of the little 1" OD x 3" LED flashlights with the rubber
> covered push button on the end opposite the 9 (or so) LED's -- take 3 AAA's
> in a holder. Sounds like just what you need. I've probably got one or two
> more. I'll dig that one out tomorrow & look for more.
>
> Is dark blue anodized OK? :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Johnny Bridges
> wrote:
>
>> I have received my three heathen chinee cameras. Now I need a solution
>> which does a horizontal screen split and a vertical screen split using NTSC
>> video input. I propose to put the backup camera on the top half of a
>> small display, and the two rear mirror mount cameras on either side of the
>> bottom half. The cameras, at 8 bux each, are just over half an inch
>> square, run on 5V, and output NTSC video on a 75 ohm line. I could build
>> up one
>> 5V supply, but three pin regulators are so cheeep it's probably simpler
>> to just run one for each camera and feed them house battery for power.
>> Probably less expensive than wires to each from a common supply. It
>> looks like a salt shaker with a piece of window glass epoxied to the top
>> may well
>> make a nice waterproof mount/heatsink for them. Or a cheap small
>> waterproof flashlight with the guts removed. Anybody got a couple of small
>> MagLites
>> kicking around?
>>
>> --johnny
>>
>> --
>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>> Braselton, Ga.
>>
>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295123 is a reply to message #295120] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 16:00 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
I screwed up the last message it SHOULD read:
If a product is sold in the USA for less than it is sold in the country of origin it is called dumping and is illegal.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Mueller
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 8:45 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video
Ken,
If I remember International Trade 101 correctly the only thing that is illegal is if a country sells a product in the USA for less
than what it sells for in their country the USA is OK. If they do sell it for less in the USA it's called Dumping.
The Chinese government subsidizes the postage, HOWEVER, I agree with you that unless the Chinese government pays the US government
to deliver the package (which I doubt) it is WRONG!
Regards,
Rob M.
"Seconding Ken's Rant"
The Pedantic Mechanic
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295144 is a reply to message #295118] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 21:46 |
Kosier
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Ken,
As I understand it, there is an international agreement that if an item is
shipped
parcel post, the shipping country collects postage fees and the receiving
country
delivers it for free. Apparently the Chinese government subsidizes postage
on
packages shipped to the U.S. Since almost all the packages are coming our
way, guess whose postal service is getting stuck in the butt? The Chinese
government wants do eliminate any manufacturing in this country, as do the
scuzzballs getting rich importing Chinese products. Rant, rant, rant!!!
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 3:38 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video
> Darn, I'm upset! Not the first time, by any means, but this is absurd!!!
> I
> want SOMEONE to explain to me what kind of trade agreements our so-called
> representatives have "negotiated" for us. It's well known that they are
> not advantageous to us by any means, but the trivial situation I'm about
> to
> describe dramatically illustrates what a rip-off we're experiencing:
>
> IAW this thread, I found the inoperative flashlight that Johnny wanted to
> try as a housing for his video camera. I found it and put it in a padded
> envelope to mail to him, less batteries. I just returned from the post
> office where I paid $2.54 for "cheapest way" postage to him, 171 miles
> away, here in Georgia.
>
> Now the totally incomprehensible:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-9-LED-Mini-Ultra-Bright-Torch-Flashlights-Torch-Blue-Aluminium-G-/351624178821?hash=item51de6f2c85:g:s74AAOSwX~dWj7F3
>
> That's right -- he could have ordered virtually the same item, brand new,
> with FREE SHIPPING from Shenzhen, China, for $0.72!!!
>
> How can that be? Even if they want to give the product away, how can they
> ship it to the US, then pay the US Postal service to deliver it for LESS
> THAN WE PAY USPS???
>
> Makes NO sense to me. Even though I take frequent advantage of it, it's
> an
> outrage which MUST BE CORRECTED if we are to survive as an industrial
> society. Multiply even these trivial examples by their number and we're
> talking real money. Just imagine what the big-buck transactions look
> like!!!
>
> Rant off -- temporarily.
>
> Which one of Les Miserables running will even pretend to do anything about
> such as this?
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> Johnny,
>>
>> I just canned one of the little 1" OD x 3" LED flashlights with the
>> rubber
>> covered push button on the end opposite the 9 (or so) LED's -- take 3
>> AAA's
>> in a holder. Sounds like just what you need. I've probably got one or
>> two
>> more. I'll dig that one out tomorrow & look for more.
>>
>> Is dark blue anodized OK? :-)
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Johnny Bridges
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have received my three heathen chinee cameras. Now I need a solution
>>> which does a horizontal screen split and a vertical screen split using
>>> NTSC
>>> video input. I propose to put the backup camera on the top half of a
>>> small display, and the two rear mirror mount cameras on either side of
>>> the
>>> bottom half. The cameras, at 8 bux each, are just over half an inch
>>> square, run on 5V, and output NTSC video on a 75 ohm line. I could
>>> build
>>> up one
>>> 5V supply, but three pin regulators are so cheeep it's probably simpler
>>> to just run one for each camera and feed them house battery for power.
>>> Probably less expensive than wires to each from a common supply. It
>>> looks like a salt shaker with a piece of window glass epoxied to the top
>>> may well
>>> make a nice waterproof mount/heatsink for them. Or a cheap small
>>> waterproof flashlight with the guts removed. Anybody got a couple of
>>> small
>>> MagLites
>>> kicking around?
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>>
>>> --
>>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>>
>>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295147 is a reply to message #295144] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 22:25 |
Ken Henderson
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Gary,
That's sort of what I fear is going on -- but I haven't yet found any
evidence to substantiate nor refute it. Which is another port of the
reason for my rant -- the secrecy, or at least absence of wide
dissemination, about these "world saving" trade agreements. Like the
recent Pacific agreement which was Top Secret+ until it was accepted --
then it was apparently downgraded to Secret, since we've really heard
nothing about it. If it's such a great deal, why isn't it being broadcast
so we can all celebrate.
If a government paying, or subsidizing, postage/shipping of their country's
products to another country, how is that different than selling in the
receiving country more cheaply than in the receiving country which has no
such subsidy for its own vendors? That is, our industries are being
royally screwed. And once again, we're not being informed of it.
I WANT ALL THIS CHANGED! But who'll do it???
Sadly, with a few exceptions, I suspect I'm preaching to the choir. :-(
Rant temporarily off.
Ken H.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Gary Kosier wrote:
> Ken,
>
> As I understand it, there is an international agreement that if an item is
> shipped
> parcel post, the shipping country collects postage fees and the receiving
> country
> delivers it for free. Apparently the Chinese government subsidizes
> postage on
> packages shipped to the U.S. Since almost all the packages are coming our
> way, guess whose postal service is getting stuck in the butt? The Chinese
> government wants do eliminate any manufacturing in this country, as do the
> scuzzballs getting rich importing Chinese products. Rant, rant, rant!!!
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Camrea video [message #295158 is a reply to message #295075] |
Sat, 06 February 2016 03:40 |
Ken Burton
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Operational ones are $1.00 each in the sporting goods department at Walmart. You cannot mail bad ones for that price.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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