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Fixing the Sloppy Tilt Column [message #294198] Sat, 23 January 2016 09:34 Go to next message
77Royale   United States
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I was able to cross something off my list which was the sloppy, loose tilt column on our Royale. Id say I had better than a 1/4 inch of play in all directions. With a few great write ups from GMCers and the maintenance manual it was an easy job. Note this was the TILT COLUMN ITSELF which was loose, not any of the associated steering components outside of the coach.....


Low cost and satisfying to have this fixed. As it stood, the original ignition key was so worn down that it would easily pull out in any position the ignition cylinder was in. Since I had to remove that to get further into the column it was replaced.

As has been written up and if you google loose GM Steering there are a bunch of videos, but it was the 4 star head bolts down in the column which were less than finger tight once I got to them! Cleaned them up, red locktite to the threads and all back together. Nice and tight.

I was able to use the loan a tool at Oriellys here for the lock plate removal tool (which also had a steering wheel puller in the set). I did buy a pivot pin puller for 9 bucks. And the new ignition cylinder was 15 through Napa.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PFM0/W80652.oap?keyword=pivot+pin+remover

http://www.gmceast.com/Steering%20ccolumn%20rebuild%20hi%20res%20NW.pdf

If anyone has a loose or sloppy tilt column, those 4 star bolts may be the culprit (as has been mentioned several times by folks much smarter than I am). I would say be careful and go slow when you remove the upper tilt block to get to those bolts, as there are two sets of bearings which could fall out. If you just have a worn out lock cylinder, you dont have to go too far into the column to replace it.

All in all about a 1.5 hour job as I went slow and took photos of everything so I could remember how it all came out.


77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan
Re: [GMCnet] Fixing the Sloppy Tilt Column [message #294210 is a reply to message #294198] Sat, 23 January 2016 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Red loc tite is great, but it can make for tough work should you need to
take it appart.
The Blue Loc Tite does a good job of holding without the semi permanent
draw back.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Wayne Rogewski wrote:

> I was able to cross something off my list which was the sloppy, loose tilt
> column on our Royale. Id say I had better than a 1/4 inch of play in all
> directions. With a few great write ups from GMCers and the maintenance
> manual it was an easy job. Note this was the TILT COLUMN ITSELF which was
> loose, not any of the associated steering components outside of the
> coach.....
>
>
> Low cost and satisfying to have this fixed. As it stood, the original
> ignition key was so worn down that it would easily pull out in any position
> the ignition cylinder was in. Since I had to remove that to get further
> into the column it was replaced.
>
> As has been written up and if you google loose GM Steering there are a
> bunch of videos, but it was the 4 star head bolts down in the column which
> were less than finger tight once I got to them! Cleaned them up, red
> locktite to the threads and all back together. Nice and tight.
>
> I was able to use the loan a tool at Oriellys here for the lock plate
> removal tool (which also had a steering wheel puller in the set). I did
> buy a
> pivot pin puller for 9 bucks. And the new ignition cylinder was 15 through
> Napa.
>
>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PFM0/W80652.oap?keyword=pivot+pin+remover
>
> http://www.gmceast.com/Steering%20ccolumn%20rebuild%20hi%20res%20NW.pdf
>
> If anyone has a loose or sloppy tilt column, those 4 star bolts may be the
> culprit (as has been mentioned several times by folks much smarter than I
> am). I would say be careful and go slow when you remove the upper tilt
> block to get to those bolts, as there are two sets of bearings which could
> fall
> out. If you just have a worn out lock cylinder, you dont have to go too
> far into the column to replace it.
>
> All in all about a 1.5 hour job as I went slow and took photos of
> everything so I could remember how it all came out.
> --
> 77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403.
> Mid Michigan
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Re: Fixing the Sloppy Tilt Column [message #294232 is a reply to message #294198] Sat, 23 January 2016 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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Thanks for the info. My column is a bit loose too. It's to the stage where it needs to be tilted up pretty high for the ignition to work. The other day I tilted it all the way up and tried to start the engine. It didn't start and a puff of smoke emitted from near the middle of the column. No fuses blew and after I tilted it back down slightly the engine started. Everything seems to work OK now. Anyone know what happened.

JP
Re: Fixing the Sloppy Tilt Column [message #294363 is a reply to message #294198] Mon, 25 January 2016 09:18 Go to previous message
77Royale   United States
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It sounds like you may have a wire in there that may have lost some of its insulation. There are a number of wires which run up the column inside and Im betting one of them is bare. Sounds like its time to take it apart for an inspection.

77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan
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