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Sun, 20 December 2015 09:01 |
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Matt Colie
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I have decided that this thread is better discussed on its own.
In actual fact, I don't how you want to identify yourself on the forum/mail list. The standard sigfile that I first entered sometime after I joined the forum on early 2007 was suggested to me by a senior member at that time. I do not recall how much detail he went into, but I soon saw the value in it. As I often say, it is there to help all of us. If you don't want to be assisted in detail, that is no problem.
In sailing circles, a person is a likely to be known by the name on the boat as his/her own. This works out well as it is most often a small cadre. Even when it isn't, at the party/gam/rondezvous during/after the regatta most are wearing crew shirts with some identification.
At ARRL events, most everybody has a name tag that has a call at the top line. This is just as well since people like me are more likely to know the individual by that than the person's given name. This is not that different than the air names used in radio. (No, he is not really Bo Sneardly.)
If you do want to go with an online handle of Joe Btfsplk, that is just fine. Just don't expect any familiarity at events.
As to getting assistance from this group. I have been the recipient of aid that was extremely helpful both as information and hardware. I have done my best to return same, but it is my contention that I still owe some.
I hope all that read this understand that this is a nearly unique group. First off, it is a community of intelligent and helping people. If you ever doubt that, go read some of the other RV groups. My favorite was a question posted on one that asked why nothing worked after he unplugged from shore power...... With questions like that, I don't need to make anything up.
So, if you choose to be a member of the family, we are glad to have you. There is plenty of room for others as well.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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Re: Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292577 is a reply to message #292548] |
Sun, 20 December 2015 19:04 |
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Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 09:01I have decided that this thread is better discussed on its own.
In actual fact, I don't how you want to identify yourself on the forum/mail list. The standard sigfile that I first entered sometime after I joined the forum on early 2007 was suggested to me by a senior member at that time. I do not recall how much detail he went into, but I soon saw the value in it. As I often say, it is there to help all of us. If you don't want to be assisted in detail, that is no problem.
In sailing circles, a person is a likely to be known by the name on the boat as his/her own. This works out well as it is most often a small cadre. Even when it isn't, at the party/gam/rondezvous during/after the regatta most are wearing crew shirts with some identification.
At ARRL events, most everybody has a name tag that has a call at the top line. This is just as well since people like me are more likely to know the individual by that than the person's given name. This is not that different than the air names used in radio. (No, he is not really Bo Sneardly.)
If you do want to go with an online handle of Joe Btfsplk, that is just fine. Just don't expect any familiarity at events.
As to getting assistance from this group. I have been the recipient of aid that was extremely helpful both as information and hardware. I have done my best to return same, but it is my contention that I still owe some.
I hope all that read this understand that this is a nearly unique group. First off, it is a community of intelligent and helping people. If you ever doubt that, go read some of the other RV groups. My favorite was a question posted on one that asked why nothing worked after he unplugged from shore power...... With questions like that, I don't need to make anything up.
So, if you choose to be a member of the family, we are glad to have you. There is plenty of room for others as well.
Matt
hi Matt Cole,
one man walks into a bar and asks another man "can I have your name?" the other man looks him right in the eyes, then asks "dont you have a name?" first man says " well, yeah." second man asks a second question "then why do you want another one?" first man looks puzzled at the second then says "because I need to know who You are." second man says "I know You, hes everywhere" LOL
I think this is a really good topic to discuss here and probably had a lot to do with it crossing your and others minds lately.
what is a name? is a mans name, his bond? in some ways it might be, but it is well settled that "a mans word is his bond"
authors through out history have used what is called pen names, the most notables off the top of my head would be the well known, late Samuel Clemens. as some here may know, his second mark of choice was Mark Twain. (Mk II)
if we research deeper into history we might find this is nothing new. another example could be William Shakespeare. is it not written that the pen is mightier than the sword? could it be that this author shook his pen and refereed to it as a spear? [shakes spear] and might this one also be none other than Francis Bacon?
perhaps even more controversial, certainly more ancient would be the thrice great author Hermes Trismegistus.
are we each not also authors here? should one discount the authors above because they chose not to publish some other name? I think not.
it has been written "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 KJV what is a name? could it be a word?
from the same book in Exodus 3.14 (a most interesting number I think) KJV. when Moses had asked God for a name "I am that I am"
if we know the president by name, does this mean we know the president? what about a god? or more importantly in our case, a man? if we know a mans name, do we actually know that man or is it only his name we know?
what about in real life, do people walk around with a name on there forehead and signatureline in their right hand?
if we have an easy button (word) for everything we know, do we really know anything?
one could call another by the word friend, fellow man, brother, anything, (1gmcmh), even make up a name and that should serve the purpose. *unless* that purpose is for other, unknown reasons.
so for these purposes here, why is it so important? in most cases I think its just a program running upstairs (looking for easy buttons) but If a name has any value, would you give it away freely?
what about this.. suppose one knows they are not their name, is it possible that they might fall into dishonor by using it?
seems some want a specific name, which name exactly? the first name, given name, true name, middle, last, legal one? does it matter what order the combination of names is in (I think so) or if it is in all a caps (I think so) what about the spelling?
by what authority do you identify me by that name?
maybe one day we will be given a new name (NEO?)
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Re: [GMCnet] Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292579 is a reply to message #292577] |
Sun, 20 December 2015 19:17 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806 Registered: May 2010
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Hmmmmm? How is this GMC related? Or useful in any way, shape, or form?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Dec 20, 2015 5:06 PM, "notavailable" wrote:
> Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 09:01
>> I have decided that this thread is better discussed on its own.
>>
>> In actual fact, I don't how you want to identify yourself on the
> forum/mail list. The standard sigfile that I first entered sometime after I
>> joined the forum on early 2007 was suggested to me by a senior member at
> that time. I do not recall how much detail he went into, but I soon saw
>> the value in it. As I often say, it is there to help all of us. If you
> don't want to be assisted in detail, that is no problem.
>>
>> In sailing circles, a person is a likely to be known by the name on the
> boat as his/her own. This works out well as it is most often a small
>> cadre. Even when it isn't, at the party/gam/rondezvous during/after the
> regatta most are wearing crew shirts with some identification.
>>
>> At ARRL events, most everybody has a name tag that has a call at the top
> line. This is just as well since people like me are more likely to know
>> the individual by that than the person's given name. This is not that
> different than the air names used in radio. (No, he is not really Bo
>> Sneardly.)
>>
>> If you do want to go with an online handle of Joe Btfsplk, that is just
> fine. Just don't expect any familiarity at events.
>>
>> As to getting assistance from this group. I have been the recipient of
> aid that was extremely helpful both as information and hardware. I have
>> done my best to return same, but it is my contention that I still owe
> some.
>>
>> I hope all that read this understand that this is a nearly unique
> group. First off, it is a community of intelligent and helping people. If
> you
>> ever doubt that, go read some of the other RV groups. My favorite was a
> question posted on one that asked why nothing worked after he unplugged
>> from shore power...... With questions like that, I don't need to make
> anything up.
>>
>> So, if you choose to be a member of the family, we are glad to have
> you. There is plenty of room for others as well.
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> hi Matt Cole,
>
> one man walks into a bar and asks another man "can I have your name?" the
> other man looks him right in the eyes, then asks "dont you have a name?"
> first man says " well, yeah." second man asks a second question "then why
> do you want another one?" first man looks puzzled at the second then says
> "because I need to know who You are." second man says "I know You, hes
> everywhere" LOL
>
> I think this is a really good topic to discuss here and probably had a lot
> to do with it crossing your and others minds lately.
>
>
> what is a name? is a mans name, his bond? in some ways it might be, but it
> is well settled that "a mans word is his bond"
>
> authors through out history have used what is called pen names, the most
> notables off the top of my head would be the well known, late Samuel
> Clemens.
> as some here may know, his second mark of choice was Mark Twain. (Mk II)
>
> if we research deeper into history we might find this is nothing new.
> another example could be William Shakespeare. is it not written that the
> pen is
> mightier than the sword? could it be that this author shook his pen and
> refereed to it as a spear? [shakes spear] and might this one also be none
> other than Francis Bacon?
>
> perhaps even more controversial, certainly more ancient would be the
> thrice great author Hermes Trismegistus.
>
> are we each not also authors here? should one discount the authors above
> because they chose not to publish some other name? I think not.
>
> it has been written "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
> God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 KJV what is a name? could it be a
> word?
>
> from the same book in Exodus 3.14 (a most interesting number I think) KJV.
> when Moses had asked God for a name "I am that I am"
>
> if we know the president by name, does this mean we know the president?
> what about a god? or more importantly in our case, a man? if we know a mans
> name, do we actually know that man or is it only his name we know?
>
>
> what about in real life, do people walk around with a name on there
> forehead and signatureline in their right hand?
>
> if we have an easy button (word) for everything we know, do we really know
> anything?
>
> one could call another by the word friend, fellow man, brother, anything,
> (1gmcmh), even make up a name and that should serve the purpose. *unless*
> that purpose is for other, unknown reasons.
>
> so for these purposes here, why is it so important? in most cases I think
> its just a program running upstairs (looking for easy buttons) but If a name
> has any value, would you give it away freely?
>
> what about this.. suppose one knows they are not their name, is it
> possible that they might fall into dishonor by using it?
>
> seems some want a specific name, which name exactly? the first name, given
> name, true name, middle, last, legal one? does it matter what order the
> combination of names is in (I think so) or if it is in all a caps (I think
> so) what about the spelling?
>
> by what authority do you identify me by that name?
>
> maybe one day we will be given a new name (NEO?)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292588 is a reply to message #292579] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 00:56 |
Anonymous
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 19:17Hmmmmm? How is this GMC related? Or useful in any way, shape, or form?
hi James Hupy,
if that is the case, consider yourself lucky LOL! I spared ya quite a bit actually.. when a man puts his mind to it, anything can happen I guess. it seems to work best with an open mind though. kinda why its easier for a child to enter into the kingdom IMO. your mind is not already made up is it?
mine was and still is in a lot of ways. its a work in progress also but once I realized how closed it had actually become, I started to grow again.
I feel it helpful, but I AM in some ways only a mirror as ALL of us are.
thanks for asking.
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Re: [GMCnet] Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292606 is a reply to message #292588] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 09:15 |
sgltrac
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Ugh.
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Sunday, December 20, 2015, notavailable wrote:
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> James Hupy wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 19:17
>> Hmmmmm? How is this GMC related? Or useful in any way, shape, or form?
>
>
> hi James Hupy,
>
> if that is the case, consider yourself lucky LOL! I spared ya quite a bit
> actually.. when a man puts his mind to it, anything can happen I guess. it
> seems to work best with an open mind though. kinda why its easier for a
> child to enter into the kingdom IMO. your mind is not already made up is it?
>
> mine was and still is in a lot of ways. its a work in progress also but
> once I realized how closed it had actually become, I started to grow again.
>
> I feel it helpful, but I AM in some ways only a mirror as ALL of us are.
>
> thanks for asking.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292607 is a reply to message #292548] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 09:25 |
jknezek
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If you are lucky enough to be a forum user there is a very simple way to ignore all posts by a user. Upper right corner of that user's posts. I have never used it before, but sometimes the trade off between a small drop in possible future knowledge is worth getting rid of an endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms...
Just a thought.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292617 is a reply to message #292548] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 10:52 |
jhbridges
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There's also a cntrl-something which will do the same. I have fumblefingered it a time or two, consequently I go look at my 'ignore' list every few days. Over the time I've been here I've managed to inadvertently 'ignore' Col Ken, and a few others. So far, nobody has taken offense at my poor typing.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292630 is a reply to message #292607] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 13:50 |
kerry pinkerton
Messages: 2565 Registered: July 2012 Location: Harvest, Al
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jknezek wrote on Mon, 21 December 2015 09:25If you are lucky enough to be a forum user there is a very simple way to ignore all posts by a user. Upper right corner of that user's posts. I have never used it before, but sometimes the trade off between a small drop in possible future knowledge is worth getting rid of an endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms...
Just a thought.
Thanks Jeremy. A perfect solution.
I have difficulty understanding why someone would want to participate in the forum and just ignore or actually flaunt the group norms. I can see how someone might want to protect their privacy but a simple sigfile that said "Bob from North GA" or "Ladontrey from East Ga" or something just to fit in with the group. No one ever said it had to be their real name.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Re: Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292655 is a reply to message #292607] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 16:49 |
Anonymous
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jknezek wrote on Mon, 21 December 2015 09:25If you are lucky enough to be a forum user there is a very simple way to ignore all posts by a user. Upper right corner of that user's posts. I have never used it before, but sometimes the trade off between a small drop in possible future knowledge is worth getting rid of an endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms...
Just a thought.
hi jknezek,
thats good advice IMO, I used it the first day here for at least one other "user" (a man).
about the "endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms..." LOL thats a good one too.
but, what if: i; a man, with a genuine heartfelt compassion for his fellow man, truly has access to something so valuable that no amount of caesar's coins could buy?
what if: when a man hires an attorney to represent him, a trust has been formed and he loses his status as a man and becomes only a representation of one? is it possible that causing a harm, loss, or injury to something other than a real man (a representation maybe? "What IS real?") may be legal? it seems pretty obvious to me.. look around you at what has happened.
are we "voters" or are we men? are we "drivers" or are we men? are we (insert any legal fiction here) or are we MEN?
i; a man, do not represent myself, I AM myself.
Be a Man.
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Re: [GMCnet] Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292665 is a reply to message #292655] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 17:14 |
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USAussie
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Wow, when you pass away I'm sure history will place you in the ranks of other great thinkers of the ages!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of notavailable
hi jknezek,
thats good advice IMO, I used it the first day here for at least one other "user" (a man).
about the "endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms..." LOL thats a good one too.
but, what if: i; a man, with a genuine heartfelt compassion for his fellow man, truly has access to something so valuable that no
amount of caesar's
coins could buy?
what if: when a man hires an attorney to represent him, a trust has been formed and he loses his status as a man and becomes only a
representation of one? is it possible that causing a harm, loss, or injury to something other than a real man (a representation
maybe? "What IS real?") may be legal? It seems pretty obvious to me.. look around you at what has happened.
are we "voters" or are we men? are we "drivers" or are we men? are we (insert any legal fiction here) or are we MEN?
i; a man, do not represent myself, I AM myself.
Be a Man.
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Re: Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292666 is a reply to message #292548] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 17:20 |
jhbridges
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"are we "voters" or are we men? are we "drivers" or are we men? are we (insert any legal fiction here) or are we MEN?"
You assume that these are mutually exclusive? They are not.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292668 is a reply to message #292655] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 17:17 |
sgltrac
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Isn't there a half baked philosophy forum out there more suitable for this
crap tooavailable? Seriously, your dribble isn't even entertaining.
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Monday, December 21, 2015, notavailable wrote:
> jknezek wrote on Mon, 21 December 2015 09:25
>> If you are lucky enough to be a forum user there is a very simple way to
> ignore all posts by a user. Upper right corner of that user's posts. I
>> have never used it before, but sometimes the trade off between a small
> drop in possible future knowledge is worth getting rid of an endless parade
>> of mystical self taught lawyerisms...
>>
>> Just a thought.
>
>
> hi jknezek,
>
> thats good advice IMO, I used it the first day here for at least one other
> "user" (a man).
>
> about the "endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms..." LOL thats
> a good one too.
>
> but, what if: i; a man, with a genuine heartfelt compassion for his fellow
> man, truly has access to something so valuable that no amount of caesar's
> coins could buy?
>
> what if: when a man hires an attorney to represent him, a trust has been
> formed and he loses his status as a man and becomes only a representation of
> one? is it possible that causing a harm, loss, or injury to something
> other than a real man (a representation maybe? "What IS real?") may be
> legal? it
> seems pretty obvious to me.. look around you at what has happened.
>
> are we "voters" or are we men? are we "drivers" or are we men? are we
> (insert any legal fiction here) or are we MEN?
>
> i; a man, do not represent myself, I AM myself.
>
> Be a Man.
>
>
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Seattle, Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Names and Sigfiles - New Thread [message #292670 is a reply to message #292665] |
Mon, 21 December 2015 17:19 |
emerystora
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Rob
I got tired of using the delete key so I set up another rule in my email program to send the messages right to the trash. However, I do read yours and you are now repeating the messages that I have no interest in reading.
Stop doing that!
Emery Stora
> On Dec 21, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Wow, when you pass away I'm sure history will place you in the ranks of other great thinkers of the ages!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of notavailable
>
> hi jknezek,
>
> thats good advice IMO, I used it the first day here for at least one other "user" (a man).
>
> about the "endless parade of mystical self taught lawyerisms..." LOL thats a good one too.
>
> but, what if: i; a man, with a genuine heartfelt compassion for his fellow man, truly has access to something so valuable that no
> amount of caesar's
> coins could buy?
>
> what if: when a man hires an attorney to represent him, a trust has been formed and he loses his status as a man and becomes only a
> representation of one? is it possible that causing a harm, loss, or injury to something other than a real man (a representation
> maybe? "What IS real?") may be legal? It seems pretty obvious to me.. look around you at what has happened.
>
> are we "voters" or are we men? are we "drivers" or are we men? are we (insert any legal fiction here) or are we MEN?
>
> i; a man, do not represent myself, I AM myself.
>
> Be a Man.
>
>
>
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