| EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292063] |
Mon, 14 December 2015 11:42  |
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I'd read that these are both the same generator, just that the EV is set up for motorhome use, and the ES is set up as a portable genny. Is anyone familiar with the layout differences between the 2, or has anyone successfully installed an ES6500 into a GMC? Since the ES is commonly used as a backup generator, it seems quite a bit easier to find a low hour unit....
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX
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| Re: EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292105 is a reply to message #292063] |
Mon, 14 December 2015 20:53  |
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They are similar, but use a gravity fuel feed and have an eco throttle sort of.
You'd need to add a fuel pump.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292145 is a reply to message #292063] |
Tue, 15 December 2015 09:15 |
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Add a pulse pump for gravity feed sets. An electric pump will usually overcome the float valve in the carb.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292181 is a reply to message #292063] |
Tue, 15 December 2015 12:05 |
jhbridges
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It will work on an Onan. It will also overpower the average contractor genset with a gravity feed tank. Ken H uses an electric 2 PSI as a choke on his'n. I'm gonna mount a solenoid on the choke lever on mine. The Mr. Gasket pumps >will< flood my heathen chinee set, I tried them - I have two mounted for the engine feed on my coach, they work well in that service. They're too much for a gravity feed tank system. The Onans always expected an electric pump. I wouldn't put one on a Honda contractor gravity feed set without first testing it.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292305 is a reply to message #292063] |
Wed, 16 December 2015 09:42 |
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So use pulse type fuel pump, or swap over to an EV carb/float assembly...
What about the 240 volt on the ES6500? Are there 2 legs on the EV6010? If there are, are they in phase or out? Anyone know if the 2 gensets are laid out the same?
Sounds like if I go down this road, I will need to be the ginea pig...
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX
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| Re: EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292306 is a reply to message #292063] |
Wed, 16 December 2015 10:22 |
jhbridges
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I put in a heathen chinee genset which is 140. They have two legs, use a split bus breaker box and single breakers and you're done. And if you ever want 240, a double breaker gives it.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292364 is a reply to message #292063] |
Thu, 17 December 2015 11:02 |
Chr$
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Doesn't matter if they are in phase or out, as there are no real 240V loads on the coach, and when you are plugged into 50A shore, you have two legs out of phase, and when on the genset, both are in phase. Coach electrical is designed to handle either situation.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: [GMCnet] EV6010 vs ES6500 [message #292368 is a reply to message #292364] |
Thu, 17 December 2015 12:00 |
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Actually, that 240 V is one single phase. When split into two 120 V
circuits at the center tap of a distribution transformer, phase does
NOT change. The instantaneous polarity of the "hot" side of each of
the 120V lines is opposed, but the actual phase is just one half of
the single phase.
Has Chris states, an original coach with the 6 kW Onan handle either
situation without any problem.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:02:46 -0700
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> Doesn't matter if they are in phase or out, as there are no real 240V loads on the coach, and when you are plugged into 50A shore, you have two legs
> out of phase, and when on the genset, both are in phase. Coach electrical is designed to handle either situation.
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> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> Scottsdale, AZ
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
> 2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
>
> Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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