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icon5.gif  water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290542] Wed, 18 November 2015 13:18 Go to next message
Anonymous   United States
hello everyone,


is there any reasons that one should not use stranded PVC hose for all water supply lines? including hot water ones?

this type of hose: http://www.downwindmarine.com/Hose-Trident-Reinforced-161-Clear-PVC-Tubing-p-90891024.html



and about using the tankless water heaters as accessory to the OEM 6gal., Im considering to use this one:
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/eccotemp-portable-tankless-water-heater/37786

with this bypass kit:
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717

so that I can re-direct water flow to the tankless one only when needed, it seems to me, if I do it this way then I should utilize another one-way valve on the output side of the tankless water heater, would that be proper/correct?


my last question is about the bathroom faucet, I like the OEM set up that has the pull knob to divert flow to the shower head but would rather replace my original with something new. is there a preferred replacement available that retains the diverter valve? maybe an updated style with same function?

another question about this OEM setup, can one combine a shower head with its own incorporated on/off valve into the OEM system without issues?

thanks


Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290556 is a reply to message #290542] Wed, 18 November 2015 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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I'm sure you will get lots of opinions.
Could you give us a name and tell us where you live and what coach you have?
It would be appreciated.

Mike in NS

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, notavailable wrote:

> hello everyone,
>
>
> is there any reasons that one should not use stranded PVC hose for all
> water supply lines? including hot water ones?
>
> this type of hose:
> http://www.downwindmarine.com/Hose-Trident-Reinforced-161-Clear-PVC-Tubing-p-90891024.html
>
>
>
> and about using the tankless water heaters as accessory to the OEM 6gal.,
> Im considering to use this one:
>
> http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/eccotemp-portable-tankless-water-heater/37786
>
> with this bypass kit:
> http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717
>
> so that I can re-direct water flow to the tankless one only when needed,
> it seems to me, if I do it this way then I should utilize another one-way
> valve on the output side of the tankless water heater, would that be
> proper/correct?
>
>
> my last question is about the bathroom faucet, I like the OEM set up that
> has the pull knob to divert flow to the shower head but would rather replace
> my original with something new. is there a preferred replacement available
> that retains the diverter valve? maybe an updated style with same
> function?
>
> another question about this OEM setup, can one combine a shower head with
> its own incorporated on/off valve into the OEM system without issues?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290557 is a reply to message #290556] Wed, 18 November 2015 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sammy Williams is currently offline  Sammy Williams   United States
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Well im assuming you have a GMC and your working on a refresh of its
plumbing. RV supply stores have the faucet setup your talking about. You
can use the new home piping that looks like and flexes like hose. Id also
go tankless on the water heater too. In my case id just not bother with a
tank water heater and save the weight, plumbing and switch headache. You
could put your tankless elsewhere and use your former water heater cavity
for other uses.
Sammy Williams
GMCless in Charleston. lol
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Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290575 is a reply to message #290556] Thu, 19 November 2015 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a tankless water heater mounted behind the refer and installed an adjustable temperature control valve under the sink, then I have a 1/4 turn angle stop coming through the shower wall to the shower. Just turn the angle stop on and off as needed for your shower.

Brian & RaeDean 1973 26' #383 Washougal WA
Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290589 is a reply to message #290575] Thu, 19 November 2015 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As long as it is not giving off toxic gas when the temperature get up to
210 degrees, it would be safe.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Brian Pimm wrote:

> I have a tankless water heater mounted behind the refer and installed an
> adjustable temperature control valve under the sink, then I have a 1/4 turn
> angle stop coming through the shower wall to the shower. Just turn the
> angle stop on and off as needed for your shower.
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> 1973 26' #383
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Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290626 is a reply to message #290589] Fri, 20 November 2015 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous   United States
jimk wrote on Thu, 19 November 2015 15:31
As long as it is not giving off toxic gas when the temperature get up to
210 degrees, it would be safe.


the hose linked is rated @ 150 degrees max, I havnt been able to obtain the specs for the Atwood water heater that pertain to max temps and hadnt yet considered the engine water temps. thanks for reminding me.

I'll try to locate a non toxic flexible hose designed for higher temps now. I need something at least as flexable as the stranded PVC hose so I can re-route the plumbing into tighter spaces. Ive already ran all electrical wires into PVC conduit formed to fit into the roof frame bows and side beams in order to have a very smooth headliner from front to rear without the drop down portion outside the bathroom. theoretically, I should be able to use a one piece headliner from front to rear but finding a solid panel this size might be more difficult.

that reminds me, another idea for this system: using the engine water heat exchanger in the Atwood water heater and another bypass valve to switch between engine heat and a solar unit on the roof.

just an idea for now but seems doable, has anyone here tried solar water heating using the Atwood heat exchanger?


Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290628 is a reply to message #290626] Fri, 20 November 2015 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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Why not just use PEX?
Get it at any box store, its flexible, and we use it in homes for hot water all the time.


Justin Brady http://www.thegmcrv.com/ 1976 Palm Beach 455
Re: water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290631 is a reply to message #290542] Fri, 20 November 2015 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gatsbys' Cruiser is currently offline  Gatsbys' Cruiser   United States
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I was just thinking to myself, the original copper water piping is rather indestructable and already run, why not just modify that and save a whole lot of work and troubles? The parts that seem to need replacement generally are the water taks if OEM and that outside water connection which I hear is plastic and isn't seeming to have held up so well over time. My thought is to eliminate it unless you really use the water at the camp grounds but then again, if you are protecting your system from high water psi, you are better off to just fill the tank and use the pump system.

Just my thoughts.
Re: [GMCnet] water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290648 is a reply to message #290626] Fri, 20 November 2015 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Notavailable.

The engine heating feature of an Atwood EH-6 water heater is a single loop of 1/2" OD copper tubing inside the tank.

I'm guessing but I’d say it is around a 18 inches long. The engine water temp runs around 190°F and is pumped through the loop. IIRC
the relief valve in the Atwood EH-6 is set at 160°F. I've found that if you hook up shore water and turn it on shortly after you
shut down the engine, it will pressurize the EH-6 tank and water will flow out of the relief valve until the water temperature in
the tank drops below the relief valve setting.

Take the above information into consideration when considering tying solar hot water into the Atwood engine heating loop.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: notavailable

the hose linked is rated @ 150 degrees max, I havnt been able to obtain the specs for the Atwood water heater that pertain to max
temps and hadnt yet considered the engine water temps. thanks for reminding me.

I'll try to locate a non toxic flexible hose designed for higher temps now. I need something at least as flexable as the stranded
PVC hose so I can re-route the plumbing into tighter spaces. Ive already ran all electrical wires into PVC conduit formed to fit
into the roof frame bows and side beams in order to have a very smooth headliner from front to rear without the drop down portion
outside the bathroom. theoretically, I should be able to use a one piece headliner from front to rear but finding a solid panel this
size might be more difficult.

that reminds me, another idea for this system: using the engine water heat exchanger in the Atwood water heater and another bypass
valve to switch between engine heat and a solar unit on the roof.

just an idea for now but seems doable, has anyone here tried solar water heating using the Atwood heat exchanger?


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Re:water supply plumbing questions.. [message #290665 is a reply to message #290628] Sat, 21 November 2015 08:01 Go to previous message
Anonymous   United States
SONICJK wrote on Fri, 20 November 2015 08:44
Why not just use PEX?
Get it at any box store, its flexible, and we use it in homes for hot water all the time.


I would prefer PEX but it wouldnt flex enough and even when using a heat gun to help it, it kinks easily however I've decided on a new route that will allow me to use PEX instead of PVC hose so I will be going with PEX now.

this coach had copper in it but it had been split in several places from freezing water inside (in difficult spots to repair too) and was also very thin from inner corrosion. I like the anti-bacterial advantages of copper but not the maintenance/repair of it.

so, is there more than one replacement for the bathroom faucet? different styles or a "proven" replacement members prefer over others?

this original one cleaned/polished up nicely and Ive re o-ringed it but still like to know what other options are available. this OEM one is certainly a solid (and heavy) piece though.
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