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[GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288271]

Tue, 06 October 2015 12:38

BobDunahugh

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It looks like the burned GMC will be delivered sometime next week to my house. The ignition key is somewhere in it. What's a simple dirty way to get the key lock out of the column? Don't care what gets broken as long as I can put it in neutral, ans turn the wheel.Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288276 is a reply to message #288271]

Tue, 06 October 2015 13:56

John Sharpe

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The quickest is like the car thieves. BIG screedriver in the left side of the column. Pull up and force the lockpin to disengage. A better way would be go remove the steeringwheel, lockplate, and ignition lock retaining screw.

John Sharpe
Porter, TX
78 Eleganza II, TBI
40 Ford Panel, TPI

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288297 is a reply to message #288276]

Tue, 06 October 2015 19:34

Kingsley Coach

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One thing you can count on here on the GMC net is the voice of personal
experience...thanks for the tip John!

Mike in NS

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:57 PM, John Sharpe wrote:

> The quickest is like the car thieves. BIG screedriver in the left side of
> the column. Pull up and force the lockpin to disengage. A better way would
> be go remove the steeringwheel, lockplate, and ignition lock retaining
> screw.
> --
> John Sharpe
> Humble, TX
> 78 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288309 is a reply to message #288297]

Tue, 06 October 2015 23:12

Bullitthead

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I think I would just take it apart and put the steering wheel back on... Cool

Cool

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288313 is a reply to message #288271]

Wed, 07 October 2015 07:35

JohnL455

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I thought the key had to be in the lock to properly pull the cylinder?

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288316 is a reply to message #288271]

Wed, 07 October 2015 08:48

77Royale

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Possibly this will help. My column is loose and Im looking to fix that this winter.

http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/tiltsteeringcolumnwobble.htm

The first few sets of photos will get you to removing the lock cylinder.

Hope it helps.

77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288318 is a reply to message #288313]

Wed, 07 October 2015 11:16

John Sharpe

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John you are right. Some columns do require a key and others don't. I don't really know how the original columns were set up.

Bob gave me a call and said he found out the steering wheel and top of the column were in a molted mess. The wheels need to be pointed straight ahead in order to load it on the flatbed. We decided that since it was almost pointed straight he may be able to point it straight ahead with the adjustable draglink.

John Sharpe
Porter, TX
78 Eleganza II, TBI
40 Ford Panel, TPI

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[GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288319 is a reply to message #288318]

Wed, 07 October 2015 11:52

sgltrac

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or try and force the lock pin by rotating the steering wheel forcefully
(couple of guys working together). There should be plenty of room to weave
a cheater bar in the wheel as well since the top of the cab is missing.

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:16 AM, John Sharpe wrote:

> John you are right. Some columns do require a key and others don't. I
> don't really know how the original columns were set up.
>
> Bob gave me a call and said he found out the steering wheel and top of
> the column were in a molted mess. The wheels need to be pointed straight
> ahead
> in order to load it on the flatbed. We decided that since it was almost
> pointed straight he may be able to point it straight ahead with the
> adjustable draglink.
> --
> John Sharpe
> Humble, TX
> 78 Eleganza II
>
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Re:The restoration begins - the easy way to unlock [message #288332 is a reply to message #288271]

Wed, 07 October 2015 17:56

Matt Colie

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Bob,

Here is the Cheap/Fast/Dirty way to do what you need. I didn't write sooner because I knew that I would be into my steering column today and I didn't want to miss anything that might be important.

Get a slide hammer type dent puller and drive it into the ignition cylinder.
One sharp smack should rip it right out. it is only retained by a little plastic tab.
Look in the hole with a light and you will see a rectangular dog.
Grab that dog with a pair of pliers and turn it in the "On" direction.
You can look at the removed lock cylinder for guidance as to what it will take.

Good Luck,

Matt

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Re:The restoration begins - the easy way to unlock [message #288351 is a reply to message #288332]

Thu, 08 October 2015 07:49

John Sharpe

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Steering column looks like World Trade Center.

John Sharpe
Porter, TX
78 Eleganza II, TBI
40 Ford Panel, TPI

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288367 is a reply to message #288271]

Thu, 08 October 2015 13:41

BobDunahugh

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Had a nice talk with John Sharpe. Found out that the steering column is a melted mass. So John, and I think the best thing to do is at the engine end of the column. Just disconnect the C/V joint, and shift cable. Then we'll have control to move it onto the trailer. Started the clean up of the donor. What a smell. Not fun.Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288449 is a reply to message #288367]

Fri, 09 October 2015 22:02

BobDunahugh

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Got engine running in the downer coach after 13 years of setting. Ran a hose from a gas can to the carb by way of an electric fuel pump. Filled the carb, then a dash of gas, and starting fluid down the carb. Started instantly. Needed a quick start for the cam, Let it run for 20 mins. Then drove it home. Vary nice. Then took out any upholstery, and carpet. Smells getting better.
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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288450 is a reply to message #288449]

Fri, 09 October 2015 22:21

USAussie

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Bob,

It might be worth the time to go over the donor coaches automotive systems end to end and see just what kind of shape it's in. It
might be in good enough shape to use after you re-do the interior and put in a ramp for Linda.

Keep the torched coach frame and running gear for spare.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

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Got engine running in the downer coach after 13 years of setting. Ran a hose from a gas can to the carb by way of an electric fuel
pump. Filled the carb, then a dash of gas, and starting fluid down the carb. Started instantly. Needed a quick start for the cam,
Let it run for 20 mins. Then drove it home. Vary nice. Then took out any upholstery, and carpet. Smells getting better.
Bob Dunahugh

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288473 is a reply to message #288449]

Sat, 10 October 2015 12:35

BobDunahugh

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Short version of plan. Trashing anything that's fabric in donor. Carefully remove all walnut cabinets, and paneling. Then soap down, and power wash interior shell. Widen door. Remove body from burned GMC. Clean, blast, and paint frame along with all drive train components. As none of those parts were burned. Donor GMC engine had 1800 miles on it. Put that engine in restored chassis. Then install restored chassis under donor body. Replace, and add all new wiring with all LED lighting. and lots of wall plugs. Insulate body shell. Put the interior in with a drive in handicap shower. It will end up being a 100% frame off restoration. Then drive it to the GMCMI rally in Alabama next April. Think there's a possibility that I'm going to have some long nights in my shop.

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288480 is a reply to message #288473]

Sat, 10 October 2015 16:14

Guy Lopes

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Bob,

I forget and your signature doesn't say; where are you located?

Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL

www.GMC-Guy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob
Dunahugh
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 10:35 AM
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Short version of plan. Trashing anything that's fabric in donor. Carefully
remove all walnut cabinets, and paneling. Then soap down, and power wash
interior shell. Widen door. Remove body from burned GMC. Clean, blast,
and paint frame along with all drive train components. As none of those
parts were burned. Donor GMC engine had 1800 miles on it. Put that engine in
restored chassis. Then install restored chassis under donor body. Replace,
and add all new wiring with all LED lighting. and lots of wall plugs.
Insulate body shell. Put the interior in with a drive in handicap shower. It
will end up being a 100% frame off restoration. Then drive it to the GMCMI
rally in Alabama next April. Think there's a possibility that I'm going to
have some long nights in my shop.

Bob Dunahugh

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288493 is a reply to message #288473]

Sat, 10 October 2015 21:35

BobDunahugh

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Thanks Guy. I should get back to doing that. Cedar Rapids Iowa. It isn't the end of the world. But you can see it from here. So far the outside Royale strip is mostly off. Two back beds with bases, and dinette are out. Most of the carpet with pad is out. So far all 12, and 110 volt wiring is in good shape. I found a vary expensive device in the kitchen. Under the sink that dispenses gin, vodka, rum, and 2 different whiskeys. Had a nice cabinet to hold the bottles with small tubes in them to deliver the boos.. Also the what ever you wanted dispenser to mix your drink. Under one of the bed was a pull out sound system amplifier system that runs on 12 or 110 volt.
Bob Dunahugh Cedar Rapids Iowa

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Re: [GMCnet] The restoration begins [message #288495 is a reply to message #288493]

Sun, 11 October 2015 00:15

USAussie

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Bob,

Sounds like the donor coach was a mouse party coach! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Dunahugh

Thanks Guy. I should get back to doing that. Cedar Rapids Iowa. It isn't the end of the world. But you can see it from here. So far
the outside Royale strip is mostly off. Two back beds with bases, and dinette are out. Most of the carpet with pad is out. So far
all 12, and 110 volt wiring is in good shape. I found a vary expensive device in the kitchen.

UNDER THE SINK THAT DISPENSES GIN, VODKA, RUM, AND 2 DIFFERENT WHISKEYS. HAD A NICE CABINET TO HOLD THE BOTTLES WITH SMALL TUBES IN
THEM TO DELIVER THE BOOS.

Also the what ever you wanted dispenser to mix your drink. Under one of the bed was a pull out SOUND SYSTEM AMPLIFIER SYSTEM THAT
RUNS ON 12 OR 110 VOLT.

Bob Dunahugh

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