| [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286283] |
Mon, 31 August 2015 20:27  |
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USAussie
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G'day,
I've started this email so it will be easy to find in the future.
I've read all the emails regarding the fire on the GMC Forum.
I watched the news video:
http://www.nebraska.tv/story/29915936/rv-fire-at-mph-motorsports-race-track
And I read the Hastings Tribune article:
http://www.hastingstribune.com/news/fire-destroys-motor-home-at-mph/article_68defc1a-4ff2-11e5-a70a-f740c9d2ecd9.html
This is a summary of what I THINK I know (note that some of the information is contradictory):
1) Fire occurred on Sunday, August 30, 2015 @ around 1930 hours
2) Coach was parked at MPH Motorsports Race Track
3) Fire started while coach was parked, not running and cold.
4) Bob and Linda were at a picnic at Chautauqua Park with friends (car show?)
5) No one was injured in the blaze, which occurred just after 9 p.m., Hastings fire chief Kent Gilbert said.
Anybody think they KNOW something else?
I'd like to know if the coach was plugged into shore power.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286289 is a reply to message #286283] |
Mon, 31 August 2015 22:16  |
sgltrac
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According to Bob it was and the breaker remained in tripped
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Monday, August 31, 2015, Robert Mueller wrote:
> G'day,
>
> I've started this email so it will be easy to find in the future.
>
> I've read all the emails regarding the fire on the GMC Forum.
>
> I watched the news video:
>
> http://www.nebraska.tv/story/29915936/rv-fire-at-mph-motorsports-race-track
>
> And I read the Hastings Tribune article:
>
>
> http://www.hastingstribune.com/news/fire-destroys-motor-home-at-mph/article_68defc1a-4ff2-11e5-a70a-f740c9d2ecd9.html
>
> This is a summary of what I THINK I know (note that some of the
> information is contradictory):
>
> 1) Fire occurred on Sunday, August 30, 2015 @ around 1930 hours
> 2) Coach was parked at MPH Motorsports Race Track
> 3) Fire started while coach was parked, not running and cold.
> 4) Bob and Linda were at a picnic at Chautauqua Park with friends (car
> show?)
> 5) No one was injured in the blaze, which occurred just after 9 p.m.,
> Hastings fire chief Kent Gilbert said.
>
> Anybody think they KNOW something else?
>
> I'd like to know if the coach was plugged into shore power.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
>
>
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286302 is a reply to message #286283] |
Tue, 01 September 2015 01:19 |
Ken Burton
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Where are the house batteries located in a Royale? As an ignition source I am considering parallel, unfused 12 volt batteries and one shorted or blew up. This just a wild guess. Even if they are not parallel if the converter were running the converter would supply around 600+ watts of power into a shorted battery. It is just a wild guess. I would be interested in the condition of the battery(s) after the fire.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286319 is a reply to message #286313] |
Tue, 01 September 2015 08:52 |
sgltrac
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My understanding from conversing with Bob is that he was plugged into 120
at the track and the "breaker was not tripped" were his words. You will
need more clarification of which breaker from him.
Sully
77 royals
Seattle
On Tuesday, September 1, 2015, Jim Galbavy wrote:
> Right now we are just speculating or SWAGing. Bob has enough on his plate.
> I will wait until he has gone over it in his head and his time is right.
> In the mean time JUST BE PREPARED as best you can.
>
> jim galbavy
> '73 x-CL ANNIE
> Lake Mary, FL
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286350 is a reply to message #286321] |
Tue, 01 September 2015 13:52 |
Bruce Hart
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Rob,
Why do you want to document only GMC's that are a total loss. It might be
more informative of coaches that have caught on fire but were saved. It is
only a matter of seconds or a few short minutes from one result to the
other;-(
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Absolutely!
>
> My intent is to document what has / is reported whether it's right or
> wrong.
>
> JUST BE PREPARED =
> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMCer-Fire-Guide.pdf
>
> WE put that document together and it is a work in progress, every time we
> loose a GMC to a fire I intend to do my level best to
> assure that the cause is added to it if it's not covered already.
>
> Didn't some famous guy once say; "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound
> of cure?" ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Galbavy
>
> Right now we are just speculating or SWAGing. Bob has enough on his plate.
> I will wait until he has gone over it in his head and his time is right.
> In the mean time JUST BE PREPARED as best you can.
>
> jim
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Bruce Hart
1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286372 is a reply to message #286283] |
Tue, 01 September 2015 16:12 |
Chr$
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I read that as it was plugged in, but fire didn't cause a short or overload to trip the breaker.
If it was an electrical fire, that wouldn't necessarily trip a breaker so long as the current didn't exceed the breakers rating.
Also, there are two, one main breaker inside the coach and one on the pedestal. One'll usually trip before the other one.
A smoldering wire can start a fire without tripping the breaker so long as the load is below the rating.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Fire Investigation - Bob Dunahugh [message #286397 is a reply to message #286381] |
Tue, 01 September 2015 21:38 |
Bruce Hart
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Thanks Rob. Give Helen our best wishes
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> Sorry, here's what I meant:
>
> "WE put that document together and it is a work in progress, every time
> anyone reports a fire in a GMC I intend to do my level best
> to
> assure that the cause is added to it if it's not covered already."
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Hart
>
> Rob,
> Why do you want to document only GMC's that are a total loss. It might be
> more informative of coaches that have caught on fire but were saved. It is
> only a matter of seconds or a few short minutes from one result to the
> other;-(
>
> Bruce Hart
>
>
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