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Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286141] Sun, 30 August 2015 06:13 Go to next message
Francois is currently offline  Francois   United States
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I have successfully removed my old engine out the top, and without dropping the axle. Thanks to C Boyd for describing the method.

I did it alone with a variation on the suggested method. After removing the nuts from the front engine mount, I hoisted it just a little until the engine mount studs just cleared the frame. I then placed a jack under the final drive, just to hold it in place. I then removed all the bolts connecting the transmission/drive line to the engine. A little bit of prying and lifting is all it took from there.

My 2 2x8 rail easily transported the engine back to the door. The HF trolley I had to modify (made for a steel I beam, not a wood girder) worked smoothly.At the door I got the shop crane in there, grabbed the engine and rolled it out the door. No surprises. I hope going in with the new will be as unevéntful.

Thanks again, especially to C Boyd. If I had to remove that goddam axle nut, I would still be trying to figure it out.
Re: Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286144 is a reply to message #286141] Sun, 30 August 2015 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am glad you got the info in time to use it. Usually I'm to late or something. The beam I have (thanks Ken H & Rick M) takes 3 strong backs to get it in place. Did you pull the side drain plugs? Since you had the heads and water pump off I was curious as how much coolant came out..

Just a side note... Red Skelton was my favorite, not Red Foxx.





Francois wrote on Sun, 30 August 2015 07:13
I have successfully removed my old engine out the top, and without dropping the axle. Thanks to C Boyd for describing the method.

I did it alone with a variation on the suggested method. After removing the nuts from the front engine mount, I hoisted it just a little until the engine mount studs just cleared the frame. I then placed a jack under the final drive, just to hold it in place. I then removed all the bolts connecting the transmission/drive line to the engine. A little bit of prying and lifting is all it took from there.

My 2 2x8 rail easily transported the engine back to the door. The HF trolley I had to modify (made for a steel I beam, not a wood girder) worked smoothly.At the door I got the shop crane in there, grabbed the engine and rolled it out the door. No surprises. I hope going in with the new will be as unevéntful.

Thanks again, especially to C Boyd. If I had to remove that goddam axle nut, I would still be trying to figure it out.



C. Boyd
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Re: Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286146 is a reply to message #286144] Sun, 30 August 2015 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C Boyd wrote on Sun, 30 August 2015 04:59
I am glad you got the info in time to use it. Usually I'm to late or something. The beam I have (thanks Ken H & Rick M) takes 3 strong backs to get it in place. Did you pull the side drain plugs? Since you had the heads and water pump off I was curious as how much coolant came out..

Just a side note... Red Skelton was my favorite, not Red Foxx.





Francois wrote on Sun, 30 August 2015 07:13
I have successfully removed my old engine out the top, and without dropping the axle. Thanks to C Boyd for describing the method.

I did it alone with a variation on the suggested method. After removing the nuts from the front engine mount, I hoisted it just a little until the engine mount studs just cleared the frame. I then placed a jack under the final drive, just to hold it in place. I then removed all the bolts connecting the transmission/drive line to the engine. A little bit of prying and lifting is all it took from there.

My 2 2x8 rail easily transported the engine back to the door. The HF trolley I had to modify (made for a steel I beam, not a wood girder) worked smoothly.At the door I got the shop crane in there, grabbed the engine and rolled it out the door. No surprises. I hope going in with the new will be as unevéntful.

Thanks again, especially to C Boyd. If I had to remove that goddam axle nut, I would still be trying to figure it out.




I nailed up the 2x8s in the coach, although screws might have been better for disassembly after the swap is done. so far I haven't needed help
Re: Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286238 is a reply to message #286141] Mon, 31 August 2015 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Tyler is currently offline  Chris Tyler   United States
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Just a thought...It would be handy for someone to do a YouTube video of GMC engine removal methods



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Re: Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286274 is a reply to message #286238] Mon, 31 August 2015 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Francois is currently offline  Francois   United States
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I think a video would help. Just one area where I could have run into problems was where the front of the girder stand was placed. It was over the engine access hole about 4 inches. I used 2 2x4s on edge, with a 1/2 inch plywood gusset. When I raised the engine up it just barely came out of the access hole, scraping against the stand all the way.

A video would have helped me to place the base of the stand as far forward as possible.

I was lucky that I got the engine out without too many issues, but a video might have helped me to avoid this one possible problem.

I have, of course, moved the entire girder assembly forward for when I bring the new engine in.
Re: Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286278 is a reply to message #286274] Mon, 31 August 2015 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Removing the front seats also helps in removing the engine out the top.
Tom, MS II


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: Engine removed, top, without dropping axleI [message #286330 is a reply to message #286278] Tue, 01 September 2015 12:05 Go to previous message
Francois is currently offline  Francois   United States
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tphipps wrote on Mon, 31 August 2015 17:16
Removing the front seats also helps in removing the engine out the top.
Tom, MS II


I left mine in and the old engine didn't come near the seats until it was totally out of the access hole and swiveling a bit. Before it did any real damage to the seats, I grabbed it and rolled it backwards on the trolley.This is another area where experience and a video could help. When I attached my hoist hook to it, the chain attached to the engine was attached diagonally, so as soon as the old engine got free of the confines of the éngine compartment, it wanted to swivel 45 degrees. That's when it made brief ĉontact with the passenger seat arm.

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