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Sat, 29 August 2015 18:47  |
Carl S.
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This is not an original idea by any means, in fact I got it from this forum. I have a friend who works in IT and has occasion to dismantle hard drives. He had a box of hard drive magnets and gave me several. After reading about oil filter magnets etc on the forum, I decided to try sticking a magnet to several components of my GMC's drivetrain. I stuck one on the bottom of the oil filter, the oil pan, the final drive cover, and one of the plugs on my aluminum transmission pan.
After re-installing the re-booted left axle shaft (no pun intended...really) one of the next things on my agenda was to change the oil in the final drive and the transmission fluid. Upon removing the final drive cover, I could not see any of the usual metallic shimmer in the draining oil. When I got the cover off, there was a small glob of what I can only guess were minute metallic particles on the inside of the pan opposite of the magnet. Same thing in the transmission pan.
I can only guess that it would be beneficial to those components to have that abrasive material pulled out of suspension from the fluid. Hopefully the magnets on the filter and the oil pan are having the same effect on those. If you have a source for hard drive magnets or any other really strong magnets, it might be a good way to make your stuff last a little longer.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Magnets [message #286115 is a reply to message #286112] |
Sat, 29 August 2015 20:17  |
tphipps
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Destroyed hard drives are an excellent source for high power magnets. They will pinch if you do not separate them from each other. If you cannot find the shape or power that you want, try K&J Magnetics on the web. I placed one of their high power strip magnets on my internal transmission filter last time I changed the fluid. Might take a look at it next Spring at Bean Station.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Magnets [message #286131 is a reply to message #286112] |
Sat, 29 August 2015 22:48 |
Kudzu
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Location: Marshville, NC
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Harbor Freight and Northern tool have small packs of rare earth magnets
too, relatively cheap. They are very strong and hard to pull apart. I
made some "intelligent putty" (silly putty with iron oxide) and I have
one magnet that I just can't get clean of the iron oxide.
Dan in NC
1976 Eleganza II
On 8/29/2015 7:47 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> This is not an original idea by any means, in fact I got it from this forum. I have a friend who works in IT and has occasion to dismantle hard
> drives. He had a box of hard drive magnets and gave me several. After reading about oil filter magnets etc on the forum, I decided to try sticking a
> magnet to several components of my GMC's drivetrain. I stuck one on the bottom of the oil filter, the oil pan, the final drive cover, and one of the
> plugs on my aluminum transmission pan.
>
> After re-installing the re-booted left axle shaft (no pun intended...really) one of the next things on my agenda was to change the oil in the final
> drive and the transmission fluid. Upon removing the final drive cover, I could not see any of the usual metallic shimmer in the draining oil. When I
> got the cover off, there was a small glob of what I can only guess were minute metallic particles on the inside of the pan opposite of the magnet.
> Same thing in the transmission pan.
>
> I can only guess that it would be beneficial to those components to have that abrasive material pulled out of suspension from the fluid. Hopefully
> the magnets on the filter and the oil pan are having the same effect on those. If you have a source for hard drive magnets or any other really strong
> magnets, it might be a good way to make your stuff last a little longer.
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| Re: Magnets [message #286163 is a reply to message #286112] |
Sun, 30 August 2015 11:13 |
Jack Ramsey
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I think we had magnets on the old VW air-cooled drain plugs. Back when they had oil bath air cleaners.
jack
Jack Ramsey
Tulare, CA
TZE165V101526
1975 Palm Beach
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| Re: Magnets [message #286174 is a reply to message #286163] |
Sun, 30 August 2015 13:30 |
tphipps
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You can find oil plugs with magnets that will work for the GMC. Very common oil plug size, at least for GM products, before metric.
tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: Magnets [message #286182 is a reply to message #286174] |
Sun, 30 August 2015 15:22 |
Bullitthead
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Bought from here before, really nice magnets and incredibly strong. Lots of shapes and sizes. Watch the dimensions and specs when ordering, can be confusing after several searches.
http://www.magnet4less.com/
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Magnets [message #286191 is a reply to message #286112] |
Sun, 30 August 2015 17:56 |
Ken Henderson
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Most folks probably don't know it, but our power steering pumps contain a
magnet to collect loose debris. At least every one of the several I've
opened had one.
Ken H.
Finally Home from Europe
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> This is not an original idea by any means, in fact I got it from this
> forum. I have a friend who works in IT and has occasion to dismantle hard
> drives. He had a box of hard drive magnets and gave me several. After
> reading about oil filter magnets etc on the forum, I decided to try
> sticking a
> magnet to several components of my GMC's drivetrain. I stuck one on the
> bottom of the oil filter, the oil pan, the final drive cover, and one of the
> plugs on my aluminum transmission pan.
>
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76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Magnets [message #286218 is a reply to message #286191] |
Mon, 31 August 2015 07:18 |
Dolph Santorine
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Location: Wheeling, WV
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When GM made the pumps, Saginaw Steering Gear had a robot that put them together (early 80’s) called “Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs).
The 7 Dwarfs were purpose built, single function robots. Snow White could do all of the jobs, and was on tracks so that when one of the Dwarfs malfunctioned, “she” would swoop in and do its job.
The unique thing is that the strontium ferrite magnets in power steering pumps were put into place charged. Most magnets are put in place discharged and then charged.
From the knowledge for the sake of knowledge department
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Aug 30, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
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> Most folks probably don't know it, but our power steering pumps contain a
> magnet to collect loose debris. At least every one of the several I've
> opened had one.
>
> Ken H.
> Finally Home from Europe
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
>> This is not an original idea by any means, in fact I got it from this
>> forum. I have a friend who works in IT and has occasion to dismantle hard
>> drives. He had a box of hard drive magnets and gave me several. After
>> reading about oil filter magnets etc on the forum, I decided to try
>> sticking a
>> magnet to several components of my GMC's drivetrain. I stuck one on the
>> bottom of the oil filter, the oil pan, the final drive cover, and one of the
>> plugs on my aluminum transmission pan.
>>
> ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Magnets [message #286230 is a reply to message #286191] |
Mon, 31 August 2015 08:41 |
rjw
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 30 August 2015 18:56Most folks probably don't know it, but our power steering pumps contain a
magnet to collect loose debris. At least every one of the several I've
opened had one.
Ken H.
Finally Home from Europe
Welcome back.
Interesting as I thought my PO had added a magnet to my old pump when I opened it up prior to replacing it with a rebuilt some years ago. I did not know they came that way from the factory. The rebuilt pump didn't have a magnet so I took the magnet from the old pump and put it in the "new" pump.
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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