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Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285862] Wed, 26 August 2015 00:27 Go to next message
bryhart is currently offline  bryhart   United States
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Had to deep clean the carb and the original gasket was a casualty. My father-in-law and I rigged up a replacement for testing but it is not perfect (minor gas leak).

I recall reading a thread that stated the original Onan part is no longer being produced but that there was a Briggs & Stratton gasket that worked perfectly. Unfortunately I can't find the thread or another part number to replace. I know that Applied sells a rebuild kit for $30 (plus shipping) but the generator is running fine. I don't want to mess with it anymore. I just need a single gasket.

Anybody got a part number for me?


1977 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285880 is a reply to message #285862] Wed, 26 August 2015 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bryan,

Click on the link below and download the part manual for the 6KW Onan

http://www.bdub.net/manuals/Onan/Onan6kwNH_Operator-Parts.pdf

On page 38 of the parts manual you will find an exploded view of the 6KW Onan.

Part Number: 146-0184
Description: Gasket, Body to Bowl

Try contacting: http://www.jackssmallengines.com/ or https://www.m-and-d.com/index.html

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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Hartman

Had to deep clean the carb and the original gasket was a casualty. My father-in-law and I rigged up a replacement for testing but it
is not perfect (minor gas leak).

I recall reading a thread that stated the original Onan part is no longer being produced but that there was a Briggs & Stratton
gasket that worked perfectly. Unfortunately I can't find the thread or another part number to replace. I know that Applied sells a
rebuild kit for $30 (plus shipping) but the generator is running fine. I don't want to mess with it anymore. I just need a single
gasket.

Anybody got a part number for me?


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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285894 is a reply to message #285862] Wed, 26 August 2015 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bryhart is currently offline  bryhart   United States
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Thank you sir. I should have been more clear. I already have the Onan part number and tireless minutes of searching the interwebs has produced nothing. I am searching for another option/suggestion on how to repair. I remember reading a thread that provided a part number for a B&S gasket and stated it was a direct replacement.

I was hoping that someone could provide me with:
1. A link to the thread (that I may have imagined in a dream)

* OR

2. A source for the Original Onan part (which may be slightly more rare than a unicorn)

* OR

3. A part number for another carb bowl gasket that will work (rumor is that there may be a Briggs & Stratton but that rumor is from the thread that I might have imagined)

* OR

4. Any other suggestion for a solution to my leaky bowl problem

Thanks,
--Bryan

P.S. I will try calling the two sources you linked.


1977 Palm Beach
Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285898 is a reply to message #285894] Wed, 26 August 2015 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bryhart wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 08:29
Thank you sir. I should have been more clear. I already have the Onan part number and tireless minutes of searching the interwebs has produced nothing. I am searching for another option/suggestion on how to repair. I remember reading a thread that provided a part number for a B&S gasket and stated it was a direct replacement.

I was hoping that someone could provide me with:
1. A link to the thread (that I may have imagined in a dream)

* OR

2. A source for the Original Onan part (which may be slightly more rare than a unicorn)

* OR

3. A part number for another carb bowl gasket that will work (rumor is that there may be a Briggs & Stratton but that rumor is from the thread that I might have imagined)

* OR

4. Any other suggestion for a solution to my leaky bowl problem

Thanks,
--Bryan


I would think the carburator was not made by onan just made for onan if there is a manufacturer's name or logo on it it would give you another avenue to look into.





P.S. I will try calling the two sources you linked.



Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285900 is a reply to message #285862] Wed, 26 August 2015 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bryhart is currently offline  bryhart   United States
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Good call roy1. Off to do more searching...

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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285903 is a reply to message #285894] Wed, 26 August 2015 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got a rebuilt Onan carb from Applied GMC a few years ago. Been working fine.

http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/626


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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285907 is a reply to message #285862] Wed, 26 August 2015 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Call Walbro in Cass City MI

They may be able to help. Just read a post a while back about them still doing rebuilds on the Onan Carbs for a reasonable fee.

Walbro North America
Sales and Engineering
6242 Garfield Street
Cass City, Michigan 48726 USA
Phone: (989)872-2131
Fax: (989)872-3090
Email: sales@walbro.com


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Re: [GMCnet] Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl GasketReplacement [message #285939 is a reply to message #285894] Wed, 26 August 2015 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bryan,

You're welcome, let us know if the two companies I suggested can come up with the gasket you need.

I was well aware that YOU had the OEM Onan carb gasket part number; I wrote my response for someone who was in the same boat that
DIDN'T have the OEM part number.

They now have a link to the complete parts manual and two sources of parts.

I live up to my signature line! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Hartman


Thank you sir. I should have been more clear. I already have the Onan part number and tireless minutes of searching the interwebs
has produced nothing. I am searching for another option/suggestion on how to repair. I remember reading a thread that provided a
part number for a B&S gasket and stated it was a direct replacement.

I was hoping that someone could provide me with:
1. A link to the thread (that I may have imagined in a dream)

* OR

2. A source for the Original Onan part (which may be slightly more rare than a unicorn)

* OR

3. A part number for another carb bowl gasket that will work (rumor is that there may be a Briggs & Stratton but that rumor is from
the thread that I
might have imagined)

* OR

4. Any other suggestion for a solution to my leaky bowl problem

Thanks,
--Bryan

P.S. I will try calling the two sources you linked.




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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285949 is a reply to message #285907] Wed, 26 August 2015 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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77Royale wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 12:07
Call Walbro in Cass City MI

They may be able to help. Just read a post a while back about them still doing rebuilds on the Onan Carbs for a reasonable fee.

Walbro North America
Sales and Engineering
6242 Garfield Street
Cass City, Michigan 48726 USA
Phone: (989)872-2131
Fax: (989)872-3090
Email: sales@walbro.com


That was my post. Luis and crew rebuilt my carb for $50, which included return shipping. The rebuild kit I purchased with all the gaskets was $15. I would have been money ahead just shipping it first to Luis instead of fixing it on my own and messing up the idle mixture jet.


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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285991 is a reply to message #285862] Thu, 27 August 2015 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought jim k's kit a few months ago, just put it in this week. So much smoother...

I would not have known there is supposed to be a gasket between the main jet and the body jet (terminology?), but there was one more thing in the kit than was in mine when I took it apart. It fit and made sense where I put it. For $20 more, I would definitely send it to the Walbro folks, and I have done lots of motorcycle carbs.

And more fodder for collective knowledge and discussion - the main GMC manual said to start with both idle and main 1.5 turns out from lightly seated. Runs fine, but smells rich exhaust. So I read the Onan manual from bdub's site, and it says 1.25 turns for main, and one turn for idle jet (p.25). I am going to try those and see if it runs as smooth.

And another question if you are still reading...when I did my test run there was condensation on the exterior of the outlet side of the carb (throat, throttle shaft, and mounting nuts). I thought it was gas leaking, but no smell, and touched it and just water. More than I have ever seen on any running engine...does it tell me anything that might be out of adjustment, or just some physics, temperature, humidity combination?


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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285992 is a reply to message #285991] Thu, 27 August 2015 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tilerpep wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 13:06
...when I did my test run there was condensation on the exterior of the outlet side of the carb (throat, throttle shaft, and mounting nuts). I thought it was gas leaking, but no smell, and touched it and just water. More than I have ever seen on any running engine...does it tell me anything that might be out of adjustment, or just some physics, temperature, humidity combination?


I had this very same thing. I am no carb expert but it seemed excessive. Any of you experts have any thoughts?


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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285996 is a reply to message #285991] Thu, 27 August 2015 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tilerpep wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 16:06


...when I did my test run there was condensation on the exterior of the outlet side of the carb (throat, throttle shaft, and mounting nuts). I thought it was gas leaking, but no smell, and touched it and just water. More than I have ever seen on any running engine...does it tell me anything that might be out of adjustment, or just some physics, temperature, humidity combination?


My Onan 6K does the same thing and, like you, I've never seen this much condensation just after the throttle plate on any other engine. On a hot humid day the condensation extends a couple of inches onto the intake manifold. The Onan runs fine so I guess that's the way it is supposed to be.


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Re: Need A Part Number For Onan 6k Carb Bowl Gasket Replacement [message #285999 is a reply to message #285996] Thu, 27 August 2015 22:04 Go to previous message
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bobby5832708 wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 20:58
Tilerpep wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 16:06


...when I did my test run there was condensation on the exterior of the outlet side of the carb (throat, throttle shaft, and mounting nuts). I thought it was gas leaking, but no smell, and touched it and just water. More than I have ever seen on any running engine...does it tell me anything that might be out of adjustment, or just some physics, temperature, humidity combination?


My Onan 6K does the same thing and, like you, I've never seen this much condensation just after the throttle plate on any other engine. On a hot humid day the condensation extends a couple of inches onto the intake manifold. The Onan runs fine so I guess that's the way it is supposed to be.


The condensation is common -- in the cooler months you may expect icing. Here is one photo for winterizing to prevent the icing.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3021-winterizing-the-onan-generator.html

Dennis


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