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Mon, 24 August 2015 01:10  |
jturbo
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I have been reading this forum for awhile and many answers are not really answers.
I have 3 of these which I plan to make reliable as a modern vehicle without the troubles that I keep reading here.
First topic is Electrical.
1 Lighting (Why are people not upgrading the lights to better lighting.
I have already done this with EVO LED headlights Extremely Bright legal and use less power.
2. Electric Fans (Most vehicle today use electric fans with great success and reliability.
Why is no one doing this and yes the aftermarket fans are inadequate. What I'm looking at is the F350 electric fans and the Ford Expedition Fans which Seem more than capable of getting rid of the power robbing mechanical fan. Has anyone Tried something like this?
3. Alternators since we need more power for Electrics our alternator crosses to many modern alternators with less drag and way more power (Delco even lists it on site they have) alternator can be put in up to 200 amps even. and you don't have to rewire everything but would be recomended.
4. EFI it seems people are still having trouble with Fuel Starvation
what are people using ??? stock pumps EFI pumps in tank pumps??? Edelbrock Sump Pumps?
Hydramat to increase in tank pickup area? has anyone tried this?
5. Dashboard and Engine Information
What has anyone done to get more data from the engine using Ipad or Android tablets?
6. RV discrimination?
It seems some RV parks won't let you stay IN San Diego near Sea World if your rig is over 10 years old?
has anyone had this problem traveling?
Many Younger people are buying these vehicles and liking them for the style etc. I'm one of them and know many more who are starting to do this.
My Purpose for these vehicles is reliable daily Tour Vehicles for Media Events I work with and for large family trips cross country and possibly overseas.
Thanks
John
1978 Royal 403
1977 Birchaven 455
1977 Kingsley 455
All under Upgrading and restoration
Rosemead California
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285700 is a reply to message #285690] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 02:10  |
George Beckman
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jturbo wrote on Sun, 23 August 2015 23:10I have been reading this forum for awhile and many answers are not really answers.
I have 3 of these which I plan to make reliable as a modern vehicle without the troubles that I keep reading here.
First topic is Electrical.
1 Lighting (Why are people not upgrading the lights to better lighting.
I have already done this with EVO LED headlights Extremely Bright legal and use less power.
2. Electric Fans (Most vehicle today use electric fans with great success and reliability.
Why is no one doing this and yes the aftermarket fans are inadequate. What I'm looking at is the F350 electric fans and the Ford Expedition Fans which Seem more than capable of getting rid of the power robbing mechanical fan. Has anyone Tried something like this?
3. Alternators since we need more power for Electrics our alternator crosses to many modern alternators with less drag and way more power (Delco even lists it on site they have) alternator can be put in up to 200 amps even. and you don't have to rewire everything but would be recomended.
4. EFI it seems people are still having trouble with Fuel Starvation
what are people using ??? stock pumps EFI pumps in tank pumps??? Edelbrock Sump Pumps?
Hydramat to increase in tank pickup area? has anyone tried this?
5. Dashboard and Engine Information
What has anyone done to get more data from the engine using Ipad or Android tablets?
6. RV discrimination?
It seems some RV parks won't let you stay IN San Diego near Sea World if your rig is over 10 years old?
has anyone had this problem traveling?
Many Younger people are buying these vehicles and liking them for the style etc. I'm one of them and know many more who are starting to do this.
My Purpose for these vehicles is reliable daily Tour Vehicles for Media Events I work with and for large family trips cross country and possibly overseas.
Thanks
John
John,
As with most antique rigs there are two schools of thought. One group likes to restore vehicles back to as close to original as possible. Others like to trick them out as much as possible. I suppose I am in the second group.
You ask good questions. The thoughts below are just my thoughts and not those of the group.
1. LED lights: I have done the interior in LED. I have thought about brake lights.
2. Electric fans: There was quite a discussion and some experimenting done. I am sure it could be done. One of the problems relates to your alternator thoughts. It takes a lot of juice to push enough air to cool an engine getting 3 mpg because it is pulling 12K lbs up a hill in 2nd gear. Some of the thinking was along the lines that there was not a great deal of savings (economy, hp, etc.) in having an alternator shove out juice to run big fans. One fellow, I think in California, was putting them on and going to report back. I may have missed the report.
3. Alternators are a constant problem, at least for me. I have a 100 amp from O'Reily's that has actually lasted a while. I have it running through larger wires.
For my own coach, I really don't want to shove more than about 60 or 80 amps at my three batteries. The deep cells may take a huge amp charge but I am not sure that is all that good for them. There is a lot of natural resistance in lead acid batteries. Heat can build up. I have some electric car experience and lead acid need tender care if you want them to last. But, if I had say four or six big Trojans, 200 amps might be OK.
4. I have EFI but do not have in tank pumps. Many do have in tank pumps and there are excellent plans for installation. I don't know of anyone with in tank that has had vapor lock, or suction problems causing the pump to cavitate. There is absolutely no doubt that manufacturers began using in tank pumps because of fuel boiling. My pump is just ahead of the AUX tank and i have had one episode of power sag on Monarch pass. I am sure the problem was on the suction side of the pump, between the pump and tank. The mat has been discussed, especially for slosh. Kind of pricy to try, for me. Some great work has been done with small accumulator or receiver tanks with a "lift pump" pumping to the tank and a in tank pump in that tank.
There is a separate forum dedicated to GMC EFI found at: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gmcmh-efi
There is not a great deal of chatter right now because we are having good results with our efforts. However those on the forum are very helpful to those converting to EFI or experiencing problems.
There are a number of hints and articles on GMC EFI at: https://sites.google.com/site/gmcmhefi/
5. One popular EFI conversion used by many in the GMC world is the EBL system. Most of us who use it have a screen of some sort that shows the What's Up Display.(WUD) WUD has several screens. I happen to pipe my computer screen to my iPhone on the dash via my local network in the coach. I drive with the screen showing instant MPG, Total MPG since reset, Gallons used, Air Fuel ratio, MAP sensor (related to engine vacuum) and whether or not I am in Lean Cruise or Power Enrichment. It has huge numbers I can read faster than I can read my oil gauge. If I have a question other screens will show my pinging at various road conditions, temperature of the engine, battery and fuel pump voltage, spark advance, O2 sensor activity, fuel pressure, etc. One big problem for those of us in California is the smog folks won't test EFI on 76 or newer coaches. Atomic EFI "may" qualify if you can convince them that the GMC is like a big pickup. One word in the Executive Order, "truck" rather than "pickup" and we would be home free.
6. Discrimination: One time in about 65K miles have we been questioned. They looked at our coach and said it was fine. The guy apologized and said they didn't want rigs with room air conditioners hanging out of the side. In a filling station a fellow recently wanted to know who was making my coach. I said it was a 1974 and he was clearly impressed.
Reliability: I have been on "the hook" one time since 2007 and 65K miles. I have been beside the road fiddling and I have had to drive twice, once in low and once in 2nd gear due to trans problems. This evening above Auburn, CA, there was a beautiful big box motorhome sitting along Highway 80. He had the jacks down so I am thinking it was pretty dead and he was there for a while. His tow car was parked in front so he must have been out foraging.
I hope this helps. Keep asking as we want to help folks get a realistic view of life with a GMC.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285708 is a reply to message #285705] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 04:07 |
Ronald Pottol
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From reading, as long as you don't tell them, and your coach looks decent,
a GMC will pass as new enough. It's more about being fussy about how the
rigs look.
It is my guess (not looked up the law, not an expert), that Manny's diesel
conversion will be smog legal in California for all model years. In part, I
believe this because it's a way around the smog laws for hot roders, you do
a diesel conversion, get smog exempt, and then do the motor you want.
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:38 AM, john wrote:
> LED
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> Zevo LED headlights seem to be my biggest happy upgrade so far..
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> I Can see now!!
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> 1977 Birchaven 455
> 1977 Kingsley 455
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> All under Upgrading and restoration
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> Rosemead California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285721 is a reply to message #285708] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 09:01 |
Mr ERFisher
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Read here
http://gmcmotorhome.info
On Monday, August 24, 2015, Ronald Pottol wrote:
> From reading, as long as you don't tell them, and your coach looks decent,
> a GMC will pass as new enough. It's more about being fussy about how the
> rigs look.
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> It is my guess (not looked up the law, not an expert), that Manny's diesel
> conversion will be smog legal in California for all model years. In part, I
> believe this because it's a way around the smog laws for hot roders, you do
> a diesel conversion, get smog exempt, and then do the motor you want.
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:38 AM, john
> wrote:
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>> LED
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>> Zevo LED headlights seem to be my biggest happy upgrade so far..
>>
>> I Can see now!!
>> --
>> 1978 Royal 403
>> 1977 Birchaven 455
>> 1977 Kingsley 455
>>
>> All under Upgrading and restoration
>>
>> Rosemead California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285733 is a reply to message #285705] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 10:50 |
Rob
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I don't think I've ever even used my headlights... I checked them last year - I assume they still work.
So changing them is not very high up on my "to do" list!
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
On 2015-08-24, at 12:38 AM, john wrote:
> LED
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> Zevo LED headlights seem to be my biggest happy upgrade so far..
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> I Can see now!!
> --
> 1978 Royal 403
> 1977 Birchaven 455
> 1977 Kingsley 455
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> All under Upgrading and restoration
>
> Rosemead California
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285735 is a reply to message #285690] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 11:13 |
rcjordan
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We are entering an age with 3d printers and electronics and Manny's diesel upgrade where the future of these rigs looks pretty bright, IMO.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285752 is a reply to message #285690] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 13:13 |
lqqkatjon
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Nice thing about these rigs, is they have made it 40+ years and you really do not NEED to change anything. But a person may WANT to change somethings.
It is nice to see some younger people check into these coaches. The only reason I personally see for a purchase of any other motorhome would be for space. I do not buy the argument that a newer motorhome is more reliable. If a person properly restores a GMC, I guarantee it to be as reliable then anything brand new for less money.
This forum is where we go to vent some troubles, and GMC's breaking down is a less frequent event them you might think. There are thousands of these coaches driving with no issues across this country all the time. I was able to meet a GMC owner just this friday, that has had their coach for decades and gone everywhere with it, and never spent a minute on the internet, and was unaware of any "applied GMC", gmc coop, or GMCnet.
I would be wary of over complicating what is a very reliable simple system.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285753 is a reply to message #285752] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 13:37 |
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I guess if you have the time, ambition, and the budget, the sky's the limit on upgrades and improvements. Personally, I have done most of the things I have deemed necessary for safety and reliability and am now concentrating on maintenance and general upkeep. That is all I have time for right now.
As others have pointed out, these coaches are generally reliable and comfortable as is and don't require a lot of 'modernizing'. I have P.O. installed halogen headlights that allow me to see just fine at night. I am happy with the performance of my Quadrajet and have (hopefully) solved the vapor lock issue and see no need to further complicate things with Fuel injection. I have a dash mounted MSD timing control that I may or may not use. It would be nice to have all that stuff working automatically, but I'm happy with the way it all works now. I have never had any issues with charging, of course I have solar to help with that. I would love to have a Mac Dash, but the price tag is a little steep and the installation a bit more complicated than I want to tackle, so my stock gauges are fine with me (for now).
The coach gets upgrades as they are needed. I recently went through a frustrating experience trying (and failing) to upgrade a common system on my coach on a component that was working fine as is. Sometimes we need to know when to leave well enough alone.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285754 is a reply to message #285753] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 13:46 |
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I have to disagree with JimG. I love my LED brake lights. I want people to know that I'm applying the Brakes. If they are too bright, maybe you are too close.
tom, MS II
P.S. And when I get finished with my 3rd brake light, you will not like the 4 Watt Red LEDs,either.
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285786 is a reply to message #285754] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 21:22 |
Tony Cook
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One thing for sure is brakes brakes brakes. Patching in brake lines because one has failed pretty much a good sign others are right around the ' corner ' literally. Make sure you're brake system is tip top. Oh did I mention brakes?
Tony Cook
77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 '
Torrance Beach,CA
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| Re: Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285796 is a reply to message #285739] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 23:12 |
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A Hamilto wrote on Mon, 24 August 2015 11:29If you get an electric fan system to work, post the details here.
Electric fans can move more air at idle and very low speed. Above about 40 mph they become more of a flow restriction than benefit. Look under the hood of most any higher GVW truck (1 ton and up) and you'll see belt or crank driven fans. The horsepower load required to move A LOT of air just can't be provided by an electric fan or conventional alternator.
Chris Geils - Twin Cities / W Wa
1978 26' Kingsley w/ very few mods; PD9040, aux trans cooler, one repaint in stock colors, R134a, Al rad, Alcoas, 54k mi
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285797 is a reply to message #285690] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 23:46 |
Sandra Price
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Bob and I are on a 4,500 mile rt TX -OR-SD-TX trip after owning our coach
10 years and two trips to AK from TX, to the Maritimes, and a number of
trips to GMCMHI conventions in that 10 years. Most RV parks ask what kind
of coach it is and the one here in Newport, OR asked what year model it was
today. I replied it is a 2007, the year we had it painted. No
questions/problems. We pulled in and they warmly welcomed us.
So far we have had only one problem--broken shift cable (the second one in
ten years). It happened about 1:30 pm on I84 east of Portland, OR. We let
the engine cool until Bob could shift the gear into drive manually (under
the engine cover). On the way to the RV park, about 5:00 pm, we called Jim
Kanomato and ordered a new shift cable. It was delivered to the RV park in
Portland before noon the next day. Bob installed it and we have moved on
with our trip.
Use what you have, upgrade when you have a problem, and enjoy every mile.
Sandra Price
On Aug 23, 2015 11:11 PM, "john" wrote:
> I have been reading this forum for awhile and many answers are not really
> answers.
>
> I have 3 of these which I plan to make reliable as a modern vehicle
> without the troubles that I keep reading here.
>
> First topic is Electrical.
>
> 1 Lighting (Why are people not upgrading the lights to better lighting.
> I have already done this with EVO LED headlights Extremely Bright legal
> and use less power.
>
> 2. Electric Fans (Most vehicle today use electric fans with great success
> and reliability.
> Why is no one doing this and yes the aftermarket fans are inadequate. What
> I'm looking at is the F350 electric fans and the Ford Expedition Fans which
> Seem more than capable of getting rid of the power robbing mechanical fan.
> Has anyone Tried something like this?
>
> 3. Alternators since we need more power for Electrics our alternator
> crosses to many modern alternators with less drag and way more power (Delco
> even
> lists it on site they have) alternator can be put in up to 200 amps even.
> and you don't have to rewire everything but would be recomended.
>
> 4. EFI it seems people are still having trouble with Fuel Starvation
> what are people using ??? stock pumps EFI pumps in tank pumps???
> Edelbrock Sump Pumps?
> Hydramat to increase in tank pickup area? has anyone tried this?
>
> 5. Dashboard and Engine Information
> What has anyone done to get more data from the engine using Ipad or
> Android tablets?
>
> 6. RV discrimination?
> It seems some RV parks won't let you stay IN San Diego near Sea World if
> your rig is over 10 years old?
> has anyone had this problem traveling?
>
> Many Younger people are buying these vehicles and liking them for the
> style etc. I'm one of them and know many more who are starting to do this.
>
>
> My Purpose for these vehicles is reliable daily Tour Vehicles for Media
> Events I work with and for large family trips cross country and possibly
> overseas.
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> --
> 1978 Royal 403
> 1977 Birchaven 455
> 1977 Kingsley 455
>
> All under Upgrading and restoration
>
> Rosemead California
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285810 is a reply to message #285797] |
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Dear Sandra,
I'm a most disappointed in you, a true blue Texan, telling fibs about you're GMC! Naughty Naughty!
Just kidding! At the end of the day in my opinion that's the best way to handle the age question. Nine times out of ten the person
behind the counter is not going to walk out and look your GMC over and if they do they probably won't know when they were REALLY
built! If they do and they say something, Excuse yourself and get out your mobile phone and politely ask them how to spell their
name then begin typing into it. Tell them that you're writing an article for the CMCA and that you wanted to make sure you spelled
their name correctly.
I am very happy to see you and Bob "Back on the road again" after Bob's health issues, hopefully Helen and I will be able to
participate in some GMC rallies next year.
Have fun, be safe!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
PS - Looks like I'll be putting a shift cable in my "fly away spare's kit" along with the throttle cable!
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Price
Bob and I are on a 4,500 mile rt TX -OR-SD-TX trip after owning our coach
10 years and two trips to AK from TX, to the Maritimes, and a number of
trips to GMCMHI conventions in that 10 years. Most RV parks ask what kind
of coach it is and the one here in Newport, OR asked what year model it was
today. I replied it is a 2007, the year we had it painted. No
questions/problems. We pulled in and they warmly welcomed us.
So far we have had only one problem--broken shift cable (the second one in
ten years). It happened about 1:30 pm on I84 east of Portland, OR. We let
the engine cool until Bob could shift the gear into drive manually (under
the engine cover). On the way to the RV park, about 5:00 pm, we called Jim
Kanomato and ordered a new shift cable. It was delivered to the RV park in
Portland before noon the next day. Bob installed it and we have moved on
with our trip.
Use what you have, upgrade when you have a problem, and enjoy every mile.
Sandra Price
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285816 is a reply to message #285810] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 11:11 |
George B.
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Never been turned away at a RV park. In fact complements are the normal reaction. (if you have a good looking coach) As others have mentioned it may be that the age rule some parks list is a rule of convenience. Those types of rules can be quoted should the need arise. For example,, if some broken-down hippy bus pulls in with wash tubs and bed springs tied on the sides and you try to enforce a "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" and you have to defend with "Your coach looks like @$%& we don't want you here," you end up in an argument. However to enforce an an age requirement, the outcome is, hopefully, more civil.
George Butts
Las Vegas Nevada
73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285823 is a reply to message #285810] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 14:33 |
Sandra Price
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I usually don't lie about age. Just saying...
Sandrs
On Aug 25, 2015 6:53 AM, "Robert Mueller" wrote:
> Dear Sandra,
>
> I'm a most disappointed in you, a true blue Texan, telling fibs about
> you're GMC! Naughty Naughty!
>
> Just kidding! At the end of the day in my opinion that's the best way to
> handle the age question. Nine times out of ten the person
> behind the counter is not going to walk out and look your GMC over and if
> they do they probably won't know when they were REALLY
> built! If they do and they say something, Excuse yourself and get out your
> mobile phone and politely ask them how to spell their
> name then begin typing into it. Tell them that you're writing an article
> for the CMCA and that you wanted to make sure you spelled
> their name correctly.
>
> I am very happy to see you and Bob "Back on the road again" after Bob's
> health issues, hopefully Helen and I will be able to
> participate in some GMC rallies next year.
>
> Have fun, be safe!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> PS - Looks like I'll be putting a shift cable in my "fly away spare's kit"
> along with the throttle cable!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandra Price
>
> Bob and I are on a 4,500 mile rt TX -OR-SD-TX trip after owning our coach
> 10 years and two trips to AK from TX, to the Maritimes, and a number of
> trips to GMCMHI conventions in that 10 years. Most RV parks ask what kind
> of coach it is and the one here in Newport, OR asked what year model it was
> today. I replied it is a 2007, the year we had it painted. No
> questions/problems. We pulled in and they warmly welcomed us.
>
> So far we have had only one problem--broken shift cable (the second one in
> ten years). It happened about 1:30 pm on I84 east of Portland, OR. We let
> the engine cool until Bob could shift the gear into drive manually (under
> the engine cover). On the way to the RV park, about 5:00 pm, we called Jim
> Kanomato and ordered a new shift cable. It was delivered to the RV park in
> Portland before noon the next day. Bob installed it and we have moved on
> with our trip.
>
> Use what you have, upgrade when you have a problem, and enjoy every mile.
>
> Sandra Price
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reliability and the FUTURE of these Rigs [message #285824 is a reply to message #285810] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 14:32 |
Sandra Price
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Yep. Seems like a spare shift cable is a must since we know they don't
last any longer than ten years. Bob wants you to know the new one looks
like heavier duty than the old one.
We pray Helen's treatments aren't too bad and that they do what they're
designed to do. We're seeing many successful outcomes in all types of
cancer. Expecting the same for Helen.
Sandra
On Aug 25, 2015 6:53 AM, "Robert Mueller" wrote:
> Dear Sandra,
>
> I'm a most disappointed in you, a true blue Texan, telling fibs about
> you're GMC! Naughty Naughty!
>
> Just kidding! At the end of the day in my opinion that's the best way to
> handle the age question. Nine times out of ten the person
> behind the counter is not going to walk out and look your GMC over and if
> they do they probably won't know when they were REALLY
> built! If they do and they say something, Excuse yourself and get out your
> mobile phone and politely ask them how to spell their
> name then begin typing into it. Tell them that you're writing an article
> for the CMCA and that you wanted to make sure you spelled
> their name correctly.
>
> I am very happy to see you and Bob "Back on the road again" after Bob's
> health issues, hopefully Helen and I will be able to
> participate in some GMC rallies next year.
>
> Have fun, be safe!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> PS - Looks like I'll be putting a shift cable in my "fly away spare's kit"
> along with the throttle cable!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandra Price
>
> Bob and I are on a 4,500 mile rt TX -OR-SD-TX trip after owning our coach
> 10 years and two trips to AK from TX, to the Maritimes, and a number of
> trips to GMCMHI conventions in that 10 years. Most RV parks ask what kind
> of coach it is and the one here in Newport, OR asked what year model it was
> today. I replied it is a 2007, the year we had it painted. No
> questions/problems. We pulled in and they warmly welcomed us.
>
> So far we have had only one problem--broken shift cable (the second one in
> ten years). It happened about 1:30 pm on I84 east of Portland, OR. We let
> the engine cool until Bob could shift the gear into drive manually (under
> the engine cover). On the way to the RV park, about 5:00 pm, we called Jim
> Kanomato and ordered a new shift cable. It was delivered to the RV park in
> Portland before noon the next day. Bob installed it and we have moved on
> with our trip.
>
> Use what you have, upgrade when you have a problem, and enjoy every mile.
>
> Sandra Price
>
>
>
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