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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boot Distortion [message #285617 is a reply to message #285605] |
Sat, 22 August 2015 16:51   |
Carl S.
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I just finished installing a new one from Jim K, via another local GMCer who used it only to get home from a rally before converting to the 1-ton. I will replace the boot and keep this one as a spare. Just trying to figure out why it failed like this. Maybe the band wasn't tight enough and it twisted???
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: CV Boot Distortion [message #285618 is a reply to message #285600] |
Sat, 22 August 2015 16:52 |
JohnL455
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Certain ones of those had a non compatibilty with the grease. That rubber has cracked and hardened and curled up. Jim Can o Tomatoes has a unifit one with more pleats that works.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boot Distortion [message #285629 is a reply to message #285625] |
Sat, 22 August 2015 19:25 |
Carl S.
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The last time I saw my good friend, Dan Gregg, he gave me a pair if the storied "blue sticky boots". They are used, but in good condition. I am wondering about the wisdom of using these. I know they were the hot set up in their day, and were supposed to last virtually forever. It is a lot of work to replace an axle shaft, and I don't want to have to do it any more often that I really need to. Any one have experience with these boots?
PS, In the process of cleaning the other side in order to grease the Lenzi bearings as per Dave's instructions, I discovered the other boot has a hole in it too. I guess I'm not surprised as they were both replaced about 6 years and 15,000 - 20,000 miles ago.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boot Distortion [message #285633 is a reply to message #285629] |
Sat, 22 August 2015 19:57 |
C Boyd
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A used blue boot in good condition is as good as a new one. I would use them. If you leave the small inner band off it will not leak or bind.
Carl S. wrote on Sat, 22 August 2015 20:25The last time I saw my good friend, Dan Gregg, he gave me a pair if the storied "blue sticky boots". They are used, but in good condition. I am wondering about the wisdom of using these. I know they were the hot set up in their day, and were supposed to last virtually forever. It is a lot of work to replace an axle shaft, and I don't want to have to do it any more often that I really need to. Any one have experience with these boots?
PS, In the process of cleaning the other side in order to grease the Lenzi bearings as per Dave's instructions, I discovered the other boot has a hole in it too. I guess I'm not surprised as they were both replaced about 6 years and 15,000 - 20,000 miles ago.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boot Distortion [message #285634 is a reply to message #285629] |
Sat, 22 August 2015 20:06 |
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USAussie
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Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Carl,
If you have a set of Blue Boots USE THEM!
I found a used pair on old axles at the Coop in 2007 and JimB GAVE them to me!
I installed them on Double Trouble and they look EXACTLY like they did when I installed them eight years ago!
If I were you I would:
1) Remove both axles
2) Disassemble both axles
3) Disassemble, clean, and inspect both pairs of inner and outer CV joints
4) Reassemble all four CV joints using Valvoline Synpower
5) Install the used Blue Boots on the outer CV joints and new boots on the inner CV joints
6) Install both axles
IF you check MM X-7525 / Section 0 - General Information / Page 0-6 Engine, Chassis, and Body Maintenance Schedule you will not find
any servicing requirements for the CV joints. Ken Frey has one outer CV joint on his GMC that still has the original copper band
around the boot!
Given the statements above I reckon you will never have to mess with them again. However, if you're concerned you could inspect the
outers in 50,000 miles. The inners maybe in 100,000 miles (their range of movement is MUCH less than the outers).
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Stouffer
The last time I saw my good friend, Dan Gregg, he gave me a pair if the storied "blue sticky boots". They are used, but in good
condition. I am wondering about the wisdom of using these. I know they were the hot set up in their day, and were supposed to last
virtually forever. It is a lot of work to replace an axle shaft, and I don't want to have to do it any more often that I really
need to. Any one have experience with these boots?
PS, In the process of cleaning the other side in order to grease the Lenzi bearings as per Dave's instructions, I discovered the
other boot has a hole in it too. I guess I'm not surprised as they were both replaced about 6 years and 15,000 - 20,000 miles ago.
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Carl
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boot Distortion [message #285635 is a reply to message #285634] |
Sat, 22 August 2015 20:31 |
Carl S.
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Thanks guys, I'll use the blue boots. When I got the coach in July of '08, it still had the original copper bands on the boots. Only one was leaking at the time. I suppose I can get the bands and clamps locally. I'll check into it on Monday, then hopefully have the shaft I took out today ready to replace next weekend.
Another weekend, another GMC project.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boot Distortion [message #285646 is a reply to message #285635] |
Sun, 23 August 2015 09:01 |
Bruce Hart
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Location: La Grange, Wyoming
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Napa Outer Boot Clamp
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/CV-Joint-Boot-Clamp/_/R-PUJ3416_0496360261
Napa Inner Boot Clamp
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/CV-Joint-Boot-Clamp/_/R-PUJ3415_0439052926
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'll use the blue boots. When I got the coach in July of
> '08, it still had the original copper bands on the boots. Only one was
> leaking
> at the time. I suppose I can get the bands and clamps locally. I'll
> check into it on Monday, then hopefully have the shaft I took out today
> ready to
> replace next weekend.
>
> Another weekend, another GMC project.
>
>
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Bruce Hart
1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
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