the list of discoveries never ends [message #284896] |
Fri, 14 August 2015 16:09 |
budworks521
Messages: 137 Registered: October 2013 Location: Grand Rapids MI 1974 Pain...
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So the list of stuff wrong, goofy, or broken continues. So I crawl under the coach to clean all the fuel lines off for a better inspection and I found the electrical connection for the fuel selector switch is not connected. I am thinking that I finally got by problem solved. Not so fast! I reconnect the switch connection, tighten the nut for the lead on the switch (slightly loose) and jump in the coach and the beast fires up pronto and strong. It idles for five minutes and stalls yet again. So I am looking at the filter and it barely shows signs of gas going through it. So how dumb am I, I really don't know how much a flow an in line filter (plastic visible one) should have. Quite the gurgle or just a small steady trickle??? Also, say the selector switch has not been connected for a LONG Time what can happen to the fuel delivery with that? Anyways, I am trying a new in line filter tomorrow to see if the gummy crap I sort of see is hindering the flow of the gas. Crazy, I had a small hole in the line before the fuel pump and and switch was never hooked up! When it rains it pours. How comical can it get!
1974 Painted Desert
455 upper half rebuild
constant project inexperienced mechanic
Grand Rapids Mi
Always trying to learn
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Re: [GMCnet] the list of discoveries never ends [message #284904 is a reply to message #284896] |
Fri, 14 August 2015 17:38 |
powerjon
Messages: 2446 Registered: January 2004
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Larry,
I would suggest that your replace the fuel selector switch as it was unhook for a reason. Do an Ebay search on “Electric fuel selector valve”. To be honest you don’t know how the fuel was flowing thru the valve or if it was hung up halfway
Fuel filter should be half full or more.
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMHI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Lawrence Harrison wrote:
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> So the list of stuff wrong, goofy, or broken continues. So I crawl under the coach to clean all the fuel lines off for a better inspection and I found
> the electrical connection for the fuel selector switch is not connected. I am thinking that I finally got by problem solved. Not so fast! I reconnect
> the switch connection, tighten the nut for the lead on the switch (slightly loose) and jump in the coach and the beast fires up pronto and strong. It
> idles for five minutes and stalls yet again. So I am looking at the filter and it barely shows signs of gas going through it. So how dumb am I, I
> really don't know how much a flow an in line filter (plastic visible one) should have. Quite the gurgle or just a small steady trickle??? Also, say
> the selector switch has not been connected for a LONG Time what can happen to the fuel delivery with that? Anyways, I am trying a new in line filter
> tomorrow to see if the gummy crap I sort of see is hindering the flow of the gas. Crazy, I had a small hole in the line before the fuel pump and and
> switch was never hooked up! When it rains it pours. How comical can it get!
> --
> 1974 Painted Desert
> 455 upper half rebuild
> constant project inexperienced mechanic
> Grand Rapids Mi
> Always trying to learn
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #284906 is a reply to message #284896] |
Fri, 14 August 2015 17:55 |
Joe Weir
Messages: 769 Registered: February 2013 Location: Columbia, SC
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budworks521 wrote on Fri, 14 August 2015 16:09How comical can it get!
When I did my fuel system it was a laugh riot; first the fuel system, then the brake lines...
The good news is everything you find and fix is one less issue that would have been trouble on the road far from home.
76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #284915 is a reply to message #284896] |
Fri, 14 August 2015 19:37 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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Larry,
There are a huge number of possible failures with the OE tank selector valve. Right now, you need a win.
Take a piece of anything close and use it as a splice between the fuel filter and the main tank.
Plug the line from the rear tank because if it is any good, it will leak.
Alternatively, T the lines together and wait a long time for the tanks to equalize.
To answer your question, at idle there will be very little flow though the filter.
If my own coach was not on jacks, I would make the run out there..... (damn)
Matt
budworks521 wrote on Fri, 14 August 2015 17:09So the list of stuff wrong, goofy, or broken continues. So I crawl under the coach to clean all the fuel lines off for a better inspection and I found the electrical connection for the fuel selector switch is not connected. I am thinking that I finally got by problem solved. Not so fast! I reconnect the switch connection, tighten the nut for the lead on the switch (slightly loose) and jump in the coach and the beast fires up pronto and strong. It idles for five minutes and stalls yet again. So I am looking at the filter and it barely shows signs of gas going through it. So how dumb am I, I really don't know how much a flow an in line filter (plastic visible one) should have. Quite the gurgle or just a small steady trickle??? Also, say the selector switch has not been connected for a LONG Time what can happen to the fuel delivery with that? Anyways, I am trying a new in line filter tomorrow to see if the gummy crap I sort of see is hindering the flow of the gas. Crazy, I had a small hole in the line before the fuel pump and and switch was never hooked up! When it rains it pours. How comical can it get!
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #284928 is a reply to message #284896] |
Fri, 14 August 2015 20:04 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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If you connected the lead and left the switch on main, the valve doesn't know of any change. There is only 12V there when you flip the switch to reserve.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #284950 is a reply to message #284896] |
Sat, 15 August 2015 07:19 |
budworks521
Messages: 137 Registered: October 2013 Location: Grand Rapids MI 1974 Pain...
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So if I assume the connection was off on purpose why would my dash show different fuel levels and the low fuel light come on when the secondary tank was engaged? Maybe I undid the connection when I was cleaning the fuel lines above the frame for a better inspection of the hoses. The unit was replaced new in 2006. I do know that my fuel pressure did increase after I fixed the small hose leading to the pump. I do remember when I first bought the coach that the line just behind the pump pulsated quite a bit. Almost a jumpy twitched action and now I have half of that or a little more. That twitch created the small hole because the hose was rubbing on the AC bracket. Isn't anymore. My in line fuel filter is one year old and it has a very slight movement inside at idle. All the hoses pulsate before the filter but after the filter and to the tank it barely moves you get the sense fuel is barely moving through the hose. The filter in theory could be plugged at the end??? Are you saying (Matt) that if I find a way to hook up the hoses directly without the selector valve and let the system run without it maybe it would tell me if the valve is binding inside???
1974 Painted Desert
455 upper half rebuild
constant project inexperienced mechanic
Grand Rapids Mi
Always trying to learn
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #284951 is a reply to message #284896] |
Sat, 15 August 2015 07:25 |
budworks521
Messages: 137 Registered: October 2013 Location: Grand Rapids MI 1974 Pain...
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"plug the line from the rear tank" does that mean between the two tanks or plugging the line at the selector valve. I plan on trying a new fuel filter first and maybe applying a small amount of air pressure to the lines for evidence of a leak. What precautions should I take in regards to the air pressure? I was just planning on plugging some hose ends prior to the tank. Applying maybe 20 lbs pressure ???
1974 Painted Desert
455 upper half rebuild
constant project inexperienced mechanic
Grand Rapids Mi
Always trying to learn
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #284999 is a reply to message #284951] |
Sat, 15 August 2015 14:23 |
Bob de Kruyff
Messages: 4260 Registered: January 2004 Location: Chandler, AZ
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budworks521 wrote on Sat, 15 August 2015 06:25"plug the line from the rear tank" does that mean between the two tanks or plugging the line at the selector valve. I plan on trying a new fuel filter first and maybe applying a small amount of air pressure to the lines for evidence of a leak. What precautions should I take in regards to the air pressure? I was just planning on plugging some hose ends prior to the tank. Applying maybe 20 lbs pressure ???
I'm not sure which direction you are going to blow, but never allow that much pressure to get to the tank unless the fuel filler cap is off.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Re: the list of discoveries never ends [message #285093 is a reply to message #284896] |
Sun, 16 August 2015 06:06 |
budworks521
Messages: 137 Registered: October 2013 Location: Grand Rapids MI 1974 Pain...
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Matt, never got around to the coach this weekend. Decided to work on something more my pay scale. My riding lawnmower! I will be visiting my parents in Clinton Twp next few days. I might try ringing you if that is ok. I still have your number around. Thanks
1974 Painted Desert
455 upper half rebuild
constant project inexperienced mechanic
Grand Rapids Mi
Always trying to learn
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