Shift problem for the Steering column Guru... [message #281642] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 11:16 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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Hey Chuck (in case you didn't know who I ment)
I was recently on the phone with an owner in San Antonio (TX) and he allowed that he cannot even budge the shift level.
He is not a proficient wrench (by his own judgement) but has access to a good man. He is going to drive his coach to the shop by using a reach rod to the transmission.
It is my guess that this mechanic will disconnect the cable at the lower steering column to separate the issues, but if it is in the column lock, how big an issue is this likely to be?? I have been into the manuals and can't find any discussion of the column lock at all.
I did give him your name as some he or the mechanic could call if help is needed.
(He also said that he might like to go to an updated steering column.)
Matt
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Re: Shift problem for the Steering column Guru... [message #281651 is a reply to message #281642] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 12:29 |
C Boyd
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Matt, the "column" lock only locks the steering wheel tension spring holes with the little pin pushed by the spring on the back side of the key tumbler. Y If he can turn the key and wheel more than likely the cable is the problem. He should be able to pull the cotter pin and take the cable loose from the lower column and tell which.
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 12:16Hey Chuck (in case you didn't know who I ment)
I was recently on the phone with an owner in San Antonio (TX) and he allowed that he cannot even budge the shift level.
He is not a proficient wrench (by his own judgement) but has access to a good man. He is going to drive his coach to the shop by using a reach rod to the transmission.
It is my guess that this mechanic will disconnect the cable at the lower steering column to separate the issues, but if it is in the column lock, how big an issue is this likely to be?? I have been into the manuals and can't find any discussion of the column lock at all.
I did give him your name as some he or the mechanic could call if help is needed.
(He also said that he might like to go to an updated steering column.)
Matt
C. Boyd
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Re: Shift problem for the Steering column Guru... [message #281653 is a reply to message #281651] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 12:46 |
C Boyd
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Matt, if it is in the column it could be the knuckle joint lower housing broke or the shift tower housing. The lower knuckle is interchangeable with the new type, only difference is the cast on tab for the dimmer Rod. The lower shift tower can be used but you will need to do some grinding on the inside.
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C Boyd wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 13:29Matt, the "column" lock only locks the steering wheel tension spring holes with the little pin pushed by the spring on the back side of the key tumbler. Y If he can turn the key and wheel more than likely the cable is the problem. He should be able to pull the cotter pin and take the cable loose from the lower column and tell which.
Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 12:16Hey Chuck (in case you didn't know who I ment)
I was recently on the phone with an owner in San Antonio (TX) and he allowed that he cannot even budge the shift level.
He is not a proficient wrench (by his own judgement) but has access to a good man. He is going to drive his coach to the shop by using a reach rod to the transmission.
It is my guess that this mechanic will disconnect the cable at the lower steering column to separate the issues, but if it is in the column lock, how big an issue is this likely to be?? I have been into the manuals and can't find any discussion of the column lock at all.
I did give him your name as some he or the mechanic could call if help is needed.
(He also said that he might like to go to an updated steering column.)
Matt
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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Re: Shift problem for the Steering column Guru... [message #281678 is a reply to message #281642] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 17:50 |
SteveH
Messages: 13 Registered: June 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Hi Matt, thanks for posting this, and Chuck thanks for the reply.
I just removed the shift cable cotter pin at the column. The shift lever moves freely with the cable disconnected. I did notice that the shift indicator is no longer moving along with the shift lever. Does the indicator need the cable to be connected, or as I suspect, is this a separate problem? Chuck, if I need to take the column apart to repair the indicator then I may need your advice again.
Matt, I've ordered a new cable, but don't expect it to be here before your SA visit. It looks easy enough for me to replace though.
Thanks again,
Steve
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Re: Shift problem for the Steering column Guru... [message #281681 is a reply to message #281678] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 18:24 |
C Boyd
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The dash indicator has a small spring loaded cable that goes from the indicator across a stud pin behind the panel, to the column. It is attached with a Phillips screw on the lower column at the dash. It is in a slotted hole and is adjustable. I have soaked cables with penetrating oil and got it back working.
Whoosh wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 18:50Hi Matt, thanks for posting this, and Chuck thanks for the reply.
I just removed the shift cable cotter pin at the column. The shift lever moves freely with the cable disconnected. I did notice that the shift indicator is no longer moving along with the shift lever. Does the indicator need the cable to be connected, or as I suspect, is this a separate problem? Chuck, if I need to take the column apart to repair the indicator then I may need your advice again.
Matt, I've ordered a new cable, but don't expect it to be here before your SA visit. It looks easy enough for me to replace though.
Thanks again,
Steve
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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