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Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279493]

Wed, 10 June 2015 08:39

appie

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I took of the weels again and observed following
Hope this will help determin the callper and what padds I should order

Callipers look very much the same. Rear with handbrake
Both with banjo
Rear no m arkings visible
Middle markings. 8 2607 988. And what looks like 190L
Distance between sliding pins (center to center) 5 1/2"
Distance between pad hooks 4"
Lenght of break pad 4 30/32 ?

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279499 is a reply to message #279493]

Wed, 10 June 2015 09:10

USAussie

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Appie,

Try this link to the calipers that TSM sells: http://www.tsmmfg.net/calipers.html

Start at the top and work your way down until you recognize your calipers.

It's got to be one of them!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: lenze middelberg

I took of the weels again and observed following
Hope this will help determin the callper and what padds I should order

Callipers look very much the same. Rear with handbrake
Both with banjo
Rear no m arkings visible
Middle markings. 8 2607 988. And what looks like 190L
Distance between sliding pins (center to center) 5 1/2"
Distance between pad hooks 4"
Lenght of break pad 4 30/32 ?
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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279517 is a reply to message #279499]

Wed, 10 June 2015 12:52

appie

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well there seems to be a lot of different calipers ad none that look excactly like mine

With the measures I found it looks like it uses the pad D154 Is that a fixed standart ? (I know nothing about brakepads) or do they come in different thickness ?

Am I on the right way ?

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279531 is a reply to message #279517]

Wed, 10 June 2015 15:57

wally

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appie wrote on Wed, 10 June 2015 12:52

well there seems to be a lot of different calipers ad none that look excactly like mine

With the measures I found it looks like it uses the pad D154 Is that a fixed standart ? (I know nothing about brakepads) or do they come in different thickness ?

Am I on the right way ?

Fairly certain these are what you have
http://www.tsmmfg.net/3110.html
Those TSM calipers are complete with the spring and lever. It would be less expensive to get a remanufactured caliper and reuse your levers and springs. Most of the remans don't have levers and springs included.
HTH

Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279605 is a reply to message #279531]

Thu, 11 June 2015 09:37

appie

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Cant realy see those Wally. Pictures seem to be from backside
My callipers look very much like the ones on Manny s webside. Also gmc smalll. Well they all use D154 pads

Wich do you like ? Ceramics ?

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279661 is a reply to message #279605]

Thu, 11 June 2015 18:35

USAussie

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Appie,

Just got another idea!

Take the pads out of all the calipers you want to replace and trace them on a thin piece of cardboard and snail mail it to JimK and
have him send you replacement pads that match.

Done like a dinner! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2

Cant realy see those Wally. Pictures seem to be from backside
My callipers look very much like the ones on Manny s webside. Also gmc smalll. Well they all use D154 pads

Wich do you like ? Ceramics ?
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eleganza 76 "Olga" ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe since july 1 2014
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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279673 is a reply to message #279661]

Thu, 11 June 2015 19:11

Ken Henderson

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That's a VERY good idea because from the photo I saw, I can't recognize the
caliper. It MAY not even be one of those we're accustomed to seeing -- not
all modifications to GMC's outside the USA necessarily use GM parts.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:

> Appie,
>
> Just got another idea!
>
> Take the pads out of all the calipers you want to replace and trace them
> on a thin piece of cardboard and snail mail it to JimK and
> have him send you replacement pads that match.
>
> Done like a dinner! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279770 is a reply to message #279673]

Sat, 13 June 2015 01:06

appie

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Yes that would be failproof
I do know the parts came from the us. The po got everything there even toilet, aircon and cooker
Somewhere in my storage is even a receipt. Just noway to get there
Now these parts are readely available in europe. So I can make a drawing and take it to a shop here

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279773 is a reply to message #279770]

Sat, 13 June 2015 02:03

USAussie

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Appie,

OK, I'll clearly demonstrate an acute grasp on the obvious by noting that if you find the receipt and it has a clear description or
part number for the calipers you've got your answer.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: lenze middelberg

Yes that would be failproof
I do know the parts came from the us. The po got everything there even toilet, aircon and cooker
Somewhere in my storage is even a receipt. Just noway to get there
Now these parts are readely available in europe. So I can make a drawing and take it to a shop here

Appie

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Re: Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279774 is a reply to message #279493]

Sat, 13 June 2015 02:19

appie

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Yes Rob. Obviously

Everything i own. Except for what is in Olga is in storage. That storageroom is filled to the brim. I will need 2 person to stop everything from falling out when I will open that door
That will not happen this year. We are getting ready to go south again. Year number 2 fultiming

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279775 is a reply to message #279774]

Sat, 13 June 2015 02:32

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Now I know, why I scan everything so that I have access to my documents
wherever I am ;)

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'76a Eleganza II, VA

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Re: Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279792 is a reply to message #279774]

Sat, 13 June 2015 11:31

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Hey Guys !

The caliper that you have is the small GM metric caliper that was used on the 79 thru 85 Caddy Eldorado , i.e. the same one Manny uses on his

RA setup. It is the 2.1" diameter piston parking brake caliper , TSM has it as does Rock Auto and most auto parts stores . The piston must be

rotated and pushed at the same time in order to retract it . The pads are D154 or equivalent. Appie ; send me your email address and I'll forward

photos for perusal . branscoa@bmts.com

Cheers.....Albert
The 23 foot Birchaven
Tiverton, ON

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Re: Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279804 is a reply to message #279792]

Sat, 13 June 2015 14:05

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Thank you for confirming my guess I see rotated clockwise to compress Wonder how in pracsis ? guess it wil show itselv

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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Re: Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279814 is a reply to message #279804]

Sat, 13 June 2015 17:18

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appie wrote on Sat, 13 June 2015 12:05

Thank you for confirming my guess I see rotated clockwise to compress Wonder how in pracsis ? guess it wil show itselv

with a disc brake caliper tool, eg:
http://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools/disc-brake-caliper-tool

1975 26'
Karen

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Re: Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279816 is a reply to message #279814]

Sat, 13 June 2015 17:22

KB

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KB wrote on Sat, 13 June 2015 15:18

appie wrote on Sat, 13 June 2015 12:05
Thank you for confirming my guess I see rotated clockwise to compress Wonder how in pracsis ? guess it wil show itselv

with a disc brake caliper tool, eg:
http://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools/disc-brake-caliper-tool

1975 26'
Karen

I should add, you generally only have to do this when you're changing worn out pads for new (thicker) ones.
A new or re-manufactured caliper is usually fully retracted already. With regular (non parking brake) calipers,
you can just use a big C-clamp to push the piston back into the bore. With the mechanical parking brake variety, you have to
deal with the internal non-hydraulic mechanism, hence the rotation requirement.

1975 26'
Karen

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Re: [GMCnet] Wich rear break. Part 2 [message #279861 is a reply to message #279775]

Sun, 14 June 2015 05:00

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Evernote is great for storing and searching that kind of thing, with OCR so
your images are searchable. You might want a paid plan to load, then drop
back to free for long term. Great service and great app. Mobile too.
On Jun 13, 2015 12:32 AM, "Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC"
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> Now I know, why I scan everything so that I have access to my documents
> wherever I am ;)
>
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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