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Wed, 27 May 2015 07:48  |
Dominik
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Hello all,
I thought this might be worth a new post.
You all gave me lots to read regarding the jack I would like to buy. So I thought at least somebody of you would know an answer to my next question:
"Why do some earlier GMC Motorhomes have four burner stoves, and later ones only have three?"
Dave who generously helped me out last fall when I was in Toronto couldn't tell back then.
He said something like "I only know that even the new ones do not come with more than three burners..."
He proved his point by taking me to a Motor Coach sales place outside of Toronto. I would have believed him anyways.
But the Motor Coach dealership was surprising. It was not the biggest place I've ever seen - LARAG AG in my home town is bigger - but having these huge, expensive Motor Coaches for you to see and step in was new to me. We only have tiny Campers that I can't really get warm with, as we say.
So since I am again browsing the internet and am looking for GMC Motorhomes, I'd love to have an answer to this question.
Since I hate incomplete kitchens, and to me, a three burner stove is just that. But please, no offense to all you three-burner-cooks out there...
All the best,
Dominik
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| Re: Three burner stove, why? [message #278504 is a reply to message #278501] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 08:23  |
jhbridges
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Dominik, my three burner Magic Chef and my four burner Magic Chef from the SOB look to be the same size. You could replace one with the other. A couple of folks have shown interest in my four burner, but unfortunately, I haven't had time to have a close look at it to ensure it works properly and clean it up. I suspect it will replace a three burner as a drop - in though. Since I've never needed all three burners of the installed one yet, I haven't swapped them.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Three burner stove, why? [message #278506 is a reply to message #278501] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 08:41 |
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USAussie
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I have two Avion's and they came with four burner stove tops.
I'll answer your question with a question; how often do you think you will have four different items on a stove in a motorhome?
I can tell you that since 2008 we have NEVER had four things on the stove top at once.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dominik Hertle
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To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Three burner stove, why?
Hello all,
I thought this might be worth a new post.
You all gave me lots to read regarding the jack I would like to buy. So I thought at least somebody of you would know an answer to
my next question:
"Why do some earlier GMC Motorhomes have four burner stoves, and later ones only have three?"
Dave who generously helped me out last fall when I was in Toronto couldn't tell back then.
He said something like "I only know that even the new ones do not come with more than three burners..."
He proved his point by taking me to a Motor Coach sales place outside of Toronto. I would have believed him anyways.
But the Motor Coach dealership was surprising. It was not the biggest place I've ever seen - LARAG AG in my home town is bigger -
but having these huge, expensive Motor Coaches for you to see and step in was new to me. We only have tiny Campers that I can't
really get warm with, as we say.
So since I am again browsing the internet and am looking for GMC Motorhomes, I'd love to have an answer to this question.
Since I hate incomplete kitchens, and to me, a three burner stove is just that. But please, no offense to all you three-burner-cooks
out there...
All the best,
Dominik
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| Re: Three burner stove, why? [message #278509 is a reply to message #278501] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 09:20 |
Dominik
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I did live in an apartment that only had a kitchenette with a two-burner stove - That was not enough to cook properly.
Before that, I did live in an apartment that had a separate room for the kitchen, with a four burner stove.
Every saturday, I used three of the four burners for cooking, and did like to have a fourth burner in case I needed hot water.
Hot water, for example to make coffee or tea.
And after my grand parents divorced, they both had a three burner stove in their kitchen, and in both cases I deemed it un-practical.
Thank you all so far for your offers - But I have no GMC yet.
But the front seats (the ones with the armrest folding into the seat base) and the oven-and-stove-combination will be something I may
replace if they are not to my liking. And yes, an automobile (or motor coach in this case) is a very personal thing that really needs to suit the owner.
In my opinion.
I was hoping for an explanation to WHY there only are three burner stoves in the newer motor coaches. Maybe a regulatory law ? LPG lines too small ?
All the best
Dominik
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| Re: [GMCnet] Three burner stove, why? [message #278512 is a reply to message #278506] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 09:24 |
powerjon
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I am with Rob on this, we have a 2 burner cooktop which is more than you will probably ever use. The big plus is that you have more counter top space and storage under the cooktop. The Microwave is a Convection/Microwave unit and yes you can bake in it. This is what we did in the 77 Eleganza II when we did the interior over. I also have an Avion coach in the shop and it will also have a 2 burner cooktop.
The 2 burner cooktop opened up the counter top space.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p382.html
In the stretch we changed out the original cooktop to a glass top to provide more space when not in use. There are a number of these that are available today out there.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-buskirk-stretch/p48935-g2-gmcmi-2013-402.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-buskirk-stretch/p48936-g2-gmcmi-2013-403.html
With the eye level overhead microwave installation the wife will thank you. Tough getting down to check the microwave.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p378.html
Storage is King inside the GMC.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p381.html
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
> On May 27, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
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> I have two Avion's and they came with four burner stove tops.
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> I'll answer your question with a question; how often do you think you will have four different items on a stove in a motorhome?
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> I can tell you that since 2008 we have NEVER had four things on the stove top at once.
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dominik Hertle
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:49 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Three burner stove, why?
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> Hello all,
>
> I thought this might be worth a new post.
> You all gave me lots to read regarding the jack I would like to buy. So I thought at least somebody of you would know an answer to
> my next question:
>
> "Why do some earlier GMC Motorhomes have four burner stoves, and later ones only have three?"
>
> Dave who generously helped me out last fall when I was in Toronto couldn't tell back then.
> He said something like "I only know that even the new ones do not come with more than three burners..."
> He proved his point by taking me to a Motor Coach sales place outside of Toronto. I would have believed him anyways.
> But the Motor Coach dealership was surprising. It was not the biggest place I've ever seen - LARAG AG in my home town is bigger -
> but having these huge, expensive Motor Coaches for you to see and step in was new to me. We only have tiny Campers that I can't
> really get warm with, as we say.
> So since I am again browsing the internet and am looking for GMC Motorhomes, I'd love to have an answer to this question.
> Since I hate incomplete kitchens, and to me, a three burner stove is just that. But please, no offense to all you three-burner-cooks
> out there...
>
> All the best,
> Dominik
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| Re: Three burner stove, why? [message #278518 is a reply to message #278501] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 09:57 |
Chr$
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I'm thinking they started only putting 3 burners on them to save mfg costs so the price didn't have to go up. After all, most manufacturers usually put downward pressure on suppliers after a while. Eliminating the parts for the fourth burner is one way to deal with that. Who uses four anyway?
We have a 3 burner Attwood in our current Rig. I don't think we ever use more than two. There simply is no room to use them all. When we cook big, like with groups, we cook outdoors on our Camp Chef Explorer 30,000BTU/burner outdoor camping stove. In those cases, we usually use both indoor an outdoor stoves but we're cooking a lot. Now that's cooking with gas.
 
The more important thing is BTU's per burner. Some older stoves just don't put out enough heat. More burners usually mean smaller output per burner. I'd be fine with a two burner so long as one was 9,000-11,000 BTU, and the smaller at least 6,500.
I had a 2 burner Gaggenau Vario in my GMC and it was just right. One burner was 9,500 BTU.
Many older ones are only 4,500-5000. Not good for boiling a big pot of water. I tried using one from an old Pop up camper in my outdoor kitchen and it just totally sucked. That's what you really want to look at.
I'd buy one of these and replace whatever you have in the coach you buy: http://www.atwoodmobile.com/ranges-and-cooktops/atwood-ranges/high-output-ranges.asp
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: Three burner stove, why? [message #278521 is a reply to message #278501] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 10:12 |
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Matt Colie
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Dominik,
When these coaches were built, some people still cooked. The four burner (ours is a Coleman) was an extra cost option.
My wife still does cook and I have seen her with all four burners hot.
In the US, some have even shortened or removed the galley. Many have no oven and just a microwave. From those you get the answer that the wife thinks that the coach is for "vacations" and if she is on vacation, she isn't cooking.
I like our way.
Matt
Dominik wrote on Wed, 27 May 2015 08:48Hello all,
I thought this might be worth a new post.
You all gave me lots to read regarding the jack I would like to buy. So I thought at least somebody of you would know an answer to my next question:
"Why do some earlier GMC Motorhomes have four burner stoves, and later ones only have three?"
Dave who generously helped me out last fall when I was in Toronto couldn't tell back then.
He said something like "I only know that even the new ones do not come with more than three burners..."
He proved his point by taking me to a Motor Coach sales place outside of Toronto. I would have believed him anyways.
But the Motor Coach dealership was surprising. It was not the biggest place I've ever seen - LARAG AG in my home town is bigger - but having these huge, expensive Motor Coaches for you to see and step in was new to me. We only have tiny Campers that I can't really get warm with, as we say.
So since I am again browsing the internet and am looking for GMC Motorhomes, I'd love to have an answer to this question.
Since I hate incomplete kitchens, and to me, a three burner stove is just that. But please, no offense to all you three-burner-cooks out there...
All the best,
Dominik
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Three burner stove, why? [message #278531 is a reply to message #278501] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 11:45 |
jhbridges
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To muddy the water -
Mine isn't a GM upfit, Norris Coach put the stove (three burner) in. They got bought by one of the then big RV makers.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pep up your burners on your stove! [message #278533 is a reply to message #278525] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 11:50 |
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The problem with both the 3 burner and 4 burner older stoves in our GMCs is that none of the burners get really hot. Most newer stoves have one super burner which puts out a lot more heat.
Here is something that I posted 12 years ago to solve the problem. I carry the small drill bit in my motorhome and have modified several burners at rallies. People really love it as they can now boil water much, much faster (for pasta) and even stir fry on the burner which was impossible on the original burners.
>> 11/16/2003
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>> We often cook in the Magic Chef oven while traveling down the road. Put in a meatloaf with some potatoes and onions around it and when we are ready to pull over for dinner we have a quick, hot meal ready for us.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the three burners on the top have never been too efficient when we want to boil a pot of water for pasta or whatever. You can also forget about doing any stir frying as the burner isn't hot enough. The burners are rated at approx. 5200 btu. I have recently read about new stoves with three burners that have the front one rated as a "superburner" with about 7500 btu output.
>>
>> I checked the orifice on the burners and they have a hole for a #71 drill bit (.026" diameter). I calculated that to raise the BTU to approx. 7500 from the current 5200 rating I would need an orifice opening of approximately .031" diameter which corresponds to a #68 drill bit.
>>
>> Today I removed the orifice from the front burner and drilled it with a #68 bit and reinstalled it. What a fantastic difference! The flame appears almost twice as big and it certainly puts off a lot more heat. I haven't timed it yet but I suspect that a pot of water will boil about 1.5 times faster. (it should with 7500 btu versus 5200). The flame front still is blue with no jumping so it was not necessary to make any adjustments on the air openings in the burner tube going over the orifice. I would not go with any larger bit as it would probably give too hot a flame with too much propane and you'd also have to adjust the air flow by enlarging the air openings in the tube.
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>> I have thought about doing all three burners but the original stove installation instructions say to keep the burners 7" from any combustible surface. I don't want to increase the heat as the two rear burners are about that distance from the walls right now and I certainly don't want any fire hazard. I may, however, drill those two out with a #70 bit just to give a little more increase.
>>
>> If anyone wants to do this modification but doesn't have the tiny drill bits I would be willing to do it for you (at no charge) if you mail me your orifice. To get it off you just remove the screw holding the front burner down to the pan below the burner top, pull the tube off the orifice and then unscrew the orifice. Include about $1.00 in the shipment to me to pay for return postage. However, you can probably buy the little drill for that amount at a hardware or hobby store.
> On May 27, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Mark wrote:
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> Our (updated) 1978 Royale Center Kitchen came with a four-burner stove. I agree with the others that you'll probably never, ever have four burners
> going at the same time (I'm not sure I've ever had two going...). But it's a total non-issue to me whether it's got three or four burners (or even
> two).
>
> But as an aside, every time I look at newer coaches, I'm more impressed by ours. The layout and utility of is just better than anything else out
> there... you just can't do a better job squeezing useful space and features into such a small area than GMC did four decades ago. And then there's
> the ability to keep them running, using readily available parts (mainly, anyway). We've never had a moment of buyer's remorse about investing in a 35
> year old (at the time) GMC. We always have a stream of visitors wanting to look at our coach when we stop in an RV park - many of them wish they had
> something like our coach instead of the (usually MUCH more expensive) coach they drove there. ;)
> --
> Mark Hickey
> Mesa, AZ
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pep up your burners on your stove! [message #278542 is a reply to message #278533] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 13:51 |
Ronald Pottol
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Yeah, a modern stove is more like 10k, and might have one that can hit
12-15. One low one would be good too. Frankly, I think one super hot, and
one small would be enough, I don't see cooking Thanksgiving dinner in it.
On May 27, 2015 9:50 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
> The problem with both the 3 burner and 4 burner older stoves in our GMCs
> is that none of the burners get really hot. Most newer stoves have one
> super burner which puts out a lot more heat.
> Here is something that I posted 12 years ago to solve the problem. I
> carry the small drill bit in my motorhome and have modified several burners
> at rallies. People really love it as they can now boil water much, much
> faster (for pasta) and even stir fry on the burner which was impossible on
> the original burners.
>
>
>>> 11/16/2003
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>>> We often cook in the Magic Chef oven while traveling down the road. Put
> in a meatloaf with some potatoes and onions around it and when we are ready
> to pull over for dinner we have a quick, hot meal ready for us.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the three burners on the top have never been too
> efficient when we want to boil a pot of water for pasta or whatever. You
> can also forget about doing any stir frying as the burner isn't hot
> enough. The burners are rated at approx. 5200 btu. I have recently read
> about new stoves with three burners that have the front one rated as a
> "superburner" with about 7500 btu output.
>>>
>>> I checked the orifice on the burners and they have a hole for a #71
> drill bit (.026" diameter). I calculated that to raise the BTU to approx.
> 7500 from the current 5200 rating I would need an orifice opening of
> approximately .031" diameter which corresponds to a #68 drill bit.
>>>
>>> Today I removed the orifice from the front burner and drilled it with a
> #68 bit and reinstalled it. What a fantastic difference! The flame
> appears almost twice as big and it certainly puts off a lot more heat. I
> haven't timed it yet but I suspect that a pot of water will boil about 1.5
> times faster. (it should with 7500 btu versus 5200). The flame front
> still is blue with no jumping so it was not necessary to make any
> adjustments on the air openings in the burner tube going over the orifice.
> I would not go with any larger bit as it would probably give too hot a
> flame with too much propane and you'd also have to adjust the air flow by
> enlarging the air openings in the tube.
>>>
>>> I have thought about doing all three burners but the original stove
> installation instructions say to keep the burners 7" from any combustible
> surface. I don't want to increase the heat as the two rear burners are
> about that distance from the walls right now and I certainly don't want any
> fire hazard. I may, however, drill those two out with a #70 bit just to
> give a little more increase.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to do this modification but doesn't have the tiny drill
> bits I would be willing to do it for you (at no charge) if you mail me your
> orifice. To get it off you just remove the screw holding the front burner
> down to the pan below the burner top, pull the tube off the orifice and
> then unscrew the orifice. Include about $1.00 in the shipment to me to pay
> for return postage. However, you can probably buy the little drill for that
> amount at a hardware or hobby store.
>
>> On May 27, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Mark wrote:
>>
>> Our (updated) 1978 Royale Center Kitchen came with a four-burner stove.
> I agree with the others that you'll probably never, ever have four burners
>> going at the same time (I'm not sure I've ever had two going...). But
> it's a total non-issue to me whether it's got three or four burners (or even
>> two).
>>
>> But as an aside, every time I look at newer coaches, I'm more impressed
> by ours. The layout and utility of is just better than anything else out
>> there... you just can't do a better job squeezing useful space and
> features into such a small area than GMC did four decades ago. And then
> there's
>> the ability to keep them running, using readily available parts (mainly,
> anyway). We've never had a moment of buyer's remorse about investing in a
> 35
>> year old (at the time) GMC. We always have a stream of visitors wanting
> to look at our coach when we stop in an RV park - many of them wish they had
>> something like our coach instead of the (usually MUCH more expensive)
> coach they drove there. ;)
>> --
>> Mark Hickey
>> Mesa, AZ
>> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
>>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Price in Germany (was: Three burner stove, why) [message #278543 is a reply to message #278538] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 14:00 |
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I have been looking for documentation for prices in europe for a while Så any receipt etc would be welcome
Appie
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| Re: [GMCnet] Price in Germany (was: Three burner stove, why) [message #278546 is a reply to message #278538] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 14:45 |
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When I was transferred from the FRG back to the USA in 1971, I believe the exchange rate was around 3.6 to 3.8 DM per US dollar. At those exchange rates, the German cost would be roughly equivalent to a range between around 38,200 to 40,300 US Dollars.
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:55:06 +0200
> From: posde@theinternet.de
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Price in Germany (was: Three burner stove, why)
>
> Dominik,
>> PS: The GMC Motorhome was available in Germany for 145'000 Deutsch-Mark when new.
>
> where did you find that piece of information
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Price in Germany [message #278547 is a reply to message #278546] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 14:50 |
Olly Schmidt
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D C _Mac_ Macdonald:
> When I was transferred from the FRG back to the USA in 1971, I believe the exchange rate was around 3.6 to 3.8 DM per US dollar. At those exchange rates, the German cost would be roughly equivalent to a range between around 38,200 to 40,300 US Dollars.
>
According to
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates.php?A=1&C1=USD&C2=DEM&DD1=&MM1=&YYYY1=&B=1&P=&I=1&DD2=27&MM2=05& amp;YYYY2=1976&btnOK=Go%21
the exchange rate in 1976 was around 1USD = 2,58DEM - But that doesn't
really help in this instance, as prices vary greatly between the US and
Europe. So it would be nice to know, the real price at that point in time.
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PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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'76a Eleganza II, VA
'73 Sequoia, SH, Germany
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| Re: [GMCnet] Price in Germany (was: Three burner stove, why) [message #278551 is a reply to message #278546] |
Wed, 27 May 2015 15:31 |
Dolph Santorine
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There was also not a direct correlation between the U.S. Price and what was being charged because of transfer pricing. At one point in the mid 70's, certain GM vehicles were half price (after currency conversion) because of it.
Dolph Santorine
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,
> On May 27, 2015, at 3:45 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
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> When I was transferred from the FRG back to the USA in 1971, I believe the exchange rate was around 3.6 to 3.8 DM per US dollar. At those exchange rates, the German cost would be roughly equivalent to a range between around 38,200 to 40,300 US Dollars.
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>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:55:06 +0200
>> From: posde@theinternet.de
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Price in Germany (was: Three burner stove, why)
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>> Dominik,
>>> PS: The GMC Motorhome was available in Germany for 145'000 Deutsch-Mark when new.
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>> where did you find that piece of information
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>> Best regards
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>> Peer Oliver Schmidt
>> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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>> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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