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| [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276131] |
Sat, 18 April 2015 09:49  |
JT O'Neill
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On the Firestone Air Compressor (part # WR1-760-9285) 150 max PSI from Gateway, what is he best way to hook in the positive line, as the OEM has a male outlet and the Firestone is female? picture is here: http://cbabc.com/air/ I've tried local electrician and they want to just cut the old one out and splice it on to the Firestone.... Anyone have a schematic or advice? Also where the best place is to ground.
Thanks, JT
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JT O'Neill
1975 Glenbrook
Newport, Oregon
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276132 is a reply to message #276131] |
Sat, 18 April 2015 10:00  |
tphipps
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Best would be to replace both ends with new connectors. Use a very good crimper and make a tight connection. If you have them, Anderson Power Poles is the way that I would go. With The Anderson Power Pole design, you can get some fairly high amperage connectors. It does take a special crimper to make a good connection.
If you have any friends who are Ham Radio nerds, they generally would have both the connectors and the special crimper.
http://www.powerwerx.com/anderson-powerpoles/?ut
Tom, MS II (KA4CSG) with lots of power poles
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276133 is a reply to message #276131] |
Sat, 18 April 2015 10:20 |
lqqkatjon
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The only way I would do that connection, is to have a dedicated feed, of a minimum 12awg, preferably 10awg, to that compressor via a relay.
In how I did mine, I thought was very easy. I installed a resettable 30 amp fuse on the firewall. fed a line from the hot side of battery off the battery isolator. then ran a wire from that to a relay at the compressor. then I used that coach wire in that picture to trip the relay to power up the compressor.
I usually do not like to add stuff like that off the battery, but clean/good power is good for that compressor.
if you are confused. send me a PM, and I can call, or can take some pictures for you.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276135 is a reply to message #276131] |
Sat, 18 April 2015 11:13 |
jhbridges
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Mine (ViAir) is fed through a 30 amp fuse from the vehicle positive pole on the firewall through a relay which is activated by the feed which used to power the now dead Firestone compressor. It has worked flawlessly for about a year.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276188 is a reply to message #276131] |
Sun, 19 April 2015 01:50 |
Ken Burton
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OK let's see if I understand your problem correctly. Your old compressor has a male positive connector and your new compressor has a female connector. There are two simple solutions.
1. Cut the female connector off of the new compressor. Then crimp and solder a new male connector on the new compressor positive wire. You can get get a new connector at Home Depot or probably most auto parts store.
2. Do not cut anything. Build yourself a 1" or 2" adapter out of a piece of 12 ga. wire with and 2 male connectors crimped and soldered on the wire ends. Plug the adapter in to both female connectors and you are done. The also make an adapter that has 2 male connections. Try your local auto parts stores, Home Depot, or Radio Shack.
As far a ground goes. Ground the new compressor to the same place that the old one was connected. If you can not find what you need, send me a PM and I'll make you one and throw it in USPS mail.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276333 is a reply to message #276326] |
Mon, 20 April 2015 19:53 |
Ken Henderson
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Rob,
That's gross overkill for our applications, especially when considering the
cost. I've got a whole bank of 30A relays under the hood of Tweety Bird
which probably cost me [/color]
> I just stumbled on this email:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Mueller [mailto:mailto:robmueller@iinet.net.au]
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 2:23 PM
> To: 'gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org'
> Subject: Relay and connector
>
> G'day,
>
> I stumbled on to this today and reckon it's great relay / connector /
> pigtail combination for various and sundry items you want to power on the
> GMC.
>
> Relay:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lxymk2k
>
> Full URL:
>
>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/R4153/N0956.oap?ck=Search_relay+kits+-+universal_1217304_-1&keyword=relay+kits+-+universal
>
> Note that this relay is 24VDC / 30 AMP therefore at 12 VDC it will handle
> 60 AMP that is plenty for most things in a GMC.
>
> Connector / pigtail:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/k6lp3zp
>
> Full URL:
>
>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/PT5584.oap?year=1975&make=Oldsmobile&model=Custom%2BCruiser&vi=1217304&ck=Search_pt5584_ 1217304_-1&keyword=pt5584
>
> Note that when used in conjunction with the relay above you have a sealed
> unit. That's excellent considering how wet things get under the GMC hood!
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rob M. (USAussie)
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276338 is a reply to message #276334] |
Mon, 20 April 2015 21:13 |
Ken Henderson
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VGB :-)
And I didn't even get around to that little problem! :-)
Ken H.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Emery Stora wrote:
> Rob
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> It really doesn't work that way. The coil for the relay takes 24 volts to
> pull it in. 12 volts may not actuate the relay.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Apr 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Robert Mueller
> wrote:
>>
>> G'day,
>>
>> I just stumbled on this email:
>>
>>
>> --
>> Note that this relay is 24VDC / 30 AMP therefore at 12 VDC it will
> handle 60 AMP that is plenty for most things in a GMC.
>>
>> Connector / pigtail:
>>
>> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/k6lp3zp
>>
>> Full URL:
>>
>>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail//PT5584.oap?year=1975&make=Oldsmobile&model=Custom%2BCruiser&vi=1217304&ck=Search_pt5584_1217 304_-1&keyword=pt5584
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276343 is a reply to message #276334] |
Mon, 20 April 2015 22:04 |
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USAussie
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Emery,
Proof positive that I'm electrically challenged! :-)
I'll try to find one like this that runs on 12vdc.
Good luck with your operation!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Emery Stora
Rob
It really doesn't work that way. The coil for the relay takes 24 volts to pull it in. 12 volts may not actuate the relay.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> G'day,
>
> I just stumbled on this email:
>
>
> --
> Note that this relay is 24VDC / 30 AMP therefore at 12 VDC it will handle 60 AMP that is plenty for most things in a GMC.
>
> Connector / pigtail:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/k6lp3zp
>
> Full URL:
>
>
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail//PT5584.oap?year=1975&make=Oldsmobile&model=Custom%2BCruiser&vi=1217304&ck=Search_pt5584_12
17304_-1&keyword=pt5584
>
>
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Firestone air compressor- electrical [message #276349 is a reply to message #276326] |
Mon, 20 April 2015 23:24 |
Rob
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I wonder if running 60A through a 30A relay is covered by the "Limited Lifetime Warranty"?
I suspect it is, if nobody asks...
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
On 2015-04-20, at 4:54 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Mueller [mailto:mailto:robmueller@iinet.net.au]
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 2:23 PM
> To: 'gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org'
> Subject: Relay and connector
>
> G'day,
>
> I stumbled on to this today and reckon it's great relay / connector / pigtail combination for various and sundry items you want to power on the GMC.
>
> Relay:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lxymk2k
>
> Full URL:
>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/R4153/N0956.oap?ck=Search_relay+kits+-+universal_1217304_-1&keyword=relay+kits+-+universal
>
> Note that this relay is 24VDC / 30 AMP therefore at 12 VDC it will handle 60 AMP that is plenty for most things in a GMC.
>
> Connector / pigtail:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/k6lp3zp
>
> Full URL:
>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/PT5584.oap?year=1975&make=Oldsmobile&model=Custom%2BCruiser&vi=1217304&ck=Search_pt5584_ 1217304_-1&keyword=pt5584
>
> Note that when used in conjunction with the relay above you have a sealed unit. That's excellent considering how wet things get under the GMC hood!
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rob M. (USAussie)
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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