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Electric wiper installation issue [message #275401] Wed, 08 April 2015 11:03 Go to next message
Hal StClair   United States
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I'm in the process of installing electric wipers and have run into an issue. It seems the wiper linkage from the passenger side hits the master cylinder cover. It's probably just 'operator' error but it's not an obvious problem. Maybe the linkage arm was bent removing it? That seems a little unlikely as the arm is quite robust. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.
Thanks,Hal


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Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275412 is a reply to message #275401] Wed, 08 April 2015 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Hal,

You should be able to pretty easily bend the linkage up far enough to clear
even a P-30 MC cover. Just be careful not to go too far -- at Patterson I
had to un-bend Frank Jenkins' link a bit to stop a squeak when it hit one
of the hood hinge screws.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Hal StClair
wrote:

> I'm in the process of installing electric wipers and have run into an
> issue. It seems the wiper linkage from the passenger side hits the master
> cylinder cover. It's probably just 'operator' error but it's not an
> obvious problem. Maybe the linkage arm was bent removing it? That seems a
> little
> unlikely as the arm is quite robust. Just wondering if anyone else has had
> this problem.
> Thanks,Hal
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275413 is a reply to message #275412] Wed, 08 April 2015 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Wheeler is currently offline  Jerry Wheeler   United States
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I have the p30 mc and I had to bend the passenger arm up a little for it
clear; I just finished installing Henderson's electric wiper system and I
have the linkage arm turning off the motor hitting one of the motor
mounting bolts; just a little click each time it turns around. I think I
will grind a little on the bolt head.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:

> Hal,
>
> You should be able to pretty easily bend the linkage up far enough to clear
> even a P-30 MC cover. Just be careful not to go too far -- at Patterson I
> had to un-bend Frank Jenkins' link a bit to stop a squeak when it hit one
> of the hood hinge screws.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Hal StClair
> wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of installing electric wipers and have run into an
>> issue. It seems the wiper linkage from the passenger side hits the master
>> cylinder cover. It's probably just 'operator' error but it's not an
>> obvious problem. Maybe the linkage arm was bent removing it? That seems a
>> little
>> unlikely as the arm is quite robust. Just wondering if anyone else has
> had
>> this problem.
>> Thanks,Hal
>> --
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Re: Electric wiper installation issue [message #275421 is a reply to message #275401] Wed, 08 April 2015 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pickle4k is currently offline  pickle4k   United States
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I just installed the electric wiper motor from Ken H. as well, but I added the switch modification from (tlins- sorry I do not have name). Here is the picture: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/electric-wipers/p15555.html. I have copied all the wiring, but I am not able to get the high speed working. The wiper motor install went flawless, thanks Ken H. Any one have the same issue with this switch conversion?

Nick R. NorCal 76-23'Transmode-Norris Rear Bath and 75-26' Avion
Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275433 is a reply to message #275421] Wed, 08 April 2015 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Hey nick how did the level sensor work?
Erf

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015, Nick Roenick wrote:

> I just installed the electric wiper motor from Ken H. as well, but I added
> the switch modification from (tlins- sorry I do not have name). Here is the
> picture: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/electric-wipers/p15555.html. I
> have copied all the wiring, but I am not able to get the high speed working.
> The wiper motor install went flawless, thanks Ken H. Any one have the
> same issue with this switch conversion?
> --
> Nick R. NorCal
> 76-23'Transmode-Norris
> Rear Bath and
> 75-26' Avion
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Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275435 is a reply to message #275433] Wed, 08 April 2015 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pickle4k is currently offline  pickle4k   United States
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The level sensor went in OK, just found another air leak in the lines under the coach. Thanks Gene.


Nick R. NorCal 76-23'Transmode-Norris Rear Bath and 75-26' Avion
Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275455 is a reply to message #275413] Wed, 08 April 2015 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Jerry,

IIRC, there's a little of the ball joint stud extending through the nut
beneath the motor arm; you may want to grind that instead of your motor
bolt head -- even if it does take a couple more minutes. :-)

If I had the option, I'd have a little more rise built into the motor arms
-- but it's a stock item that I have modified very slightly by the supplier
and then a little more by my machinist; changing the basic part would be
more expensive than we want to pay. Especially since only a few folks
encounter the conflict.

Ken H.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Jerry Wheeler wrote:

> I have the p30 mc and I had to bend the passenger arm up a little for it
> clear; I just finished installing Henderson's electric wiper system and I
> have the linkage arm turning off the motor hitting one of the motor
> mounting bolts; just a little click each time it turns around. I think I
> will grind a little on the bolt head.
> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275459 is a reply to message #275455] Wed, 08 April 2015 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Wheeler is currently offline  Jerry Wheeler   United States
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OK Ken. I'll look at that.
Jerry

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> IIRC, there's a little of the ball joint stud extending through the nut
> beneath the motor arm; you may want to grind that instead of your motor
> bolt head -- even if it does take a couple more minutes. :-)
>
> If I had the option, I'd have a little more rise built into the motor arms
> -- but it's a stock item that I have modified very slightly by the supplier
> and then a little more by my machinist; changing the basic part would be
> more expensive than we want to pay. Especially since only a few folks
> encounter the conflict.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Jerry Wheeler
> wrote:
>
>> I have the p30 mc and I had to bend the passenger arm up a little for it
>> clear; I just finished installing Henderson's electric wiper system and I
>> have the linkage arm turning off the motor hitting one of the motor
>> mounting bolts; just a little click each time it turns around. I think I
>> will grind a little on the bolt head.
>> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Electric wiper installation issue [message #275464 is a reply to message #275421] Wed, 08 April 2015 20:29 Go to previous message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Nick,

That's a NEAT mod -- I can't figure how I missed it when Tom Lins posted it.

If you bought a junk yard motor, you should remove the black plastic rear
cover and check the 5 solder joints where the connector pins come through
the printed circuit board. They're notorious for cracking. Just touching
each with a hot soldering iron may be all the fix you need.

Even new motors are not immune to problems -- At Patterson, Paul Doane
reported that his high speed wasn't working on the motor he'd bought new.
To be sure it wasn't a wiring problem, we substituted the motor from my
demonstrator and it worked OK. So, his out-of-warranty motor was bad from
the start.

Ken H.


On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Nick Roenick wrote:

> I just installed the electric wiper motor from Ken H. as well, but I added
> the switch modification from (tlins- sorry I do not have name). Here is the
> picture: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/electric-wipers/p15555.html. I
> have copied all the wiring, but I am not able to get the high speed working.
> The wiper motor install went flawless, thanks Ken H. Any one have the
> same issue with this switch conversion?
> --
> Nick R. NorCal
> 76-23'Transmode-Norris
> Rear Bath and
> 75-26' Avion
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