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Mon, 06 April 2015 23:17  |
Hal StClair
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I've been told that the stretched GMC's by Buskirk had a 2 inch body lift. If this IS in fact the case, I'm wondering if he did anything to the bumpers? Were they also lifted?
Thanks for any information.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275245 is a reply to message #275244] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 00:40  |
powwerjon
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Rob,
All the Buskirk Stretch coaches were raised aprox 2” and you can see a 2 X 3 subframe spacer on Page 3, pictures 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 & 9 and on Page 4 pics 8 & 9 and on page 5 pictures 1, 3 & 4. None of our fuel lines and other stuff cannot be pinched. We all have different types of Fuel induction systems and we do not have to raise the dog house to clear the air cleaners.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
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> Hal,
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> Here's a link to the photo log of Clarence building a stretch. It does not appear that he raised the body 2 inches from the
> pictures.
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> http://gmcmotorhome.com/tech/buskirk/index.html
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> However, Linwood Arthur DID that:
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> http://www.gmcclassics.com/tech/larthur/index.html
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> http://www.gmcclassics.com/tech/larthur/lauther-rebuild.pdf
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> This GMC is currently owned by Dan Borlase up in Canada and is for sale.
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal StClair
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> I've been told that the stretched GMC's by Buskirk had a 2 inch body lift. If this IS in fact the case, I'm wondering if he did
> anything to the bumpers? Were they also lifted?
> Thanks for any information.
> Hal
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275267 is a reply to message #275245] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 11:17 |
Hal StClair
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Thank you for weighing in JR. Did they also raise the bumpers on your coach? I very curious how this was accomplished with the shocks that located the bumpers.
Thanks, Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275277 is a reply to message #275272] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 12:10 |
Hal StClair
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Thank you Hal,
Other Hal 
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: GMC stretch question [message #275289 is a reply to message #275241] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 14:08 |
kerry pinkerton
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OMG WOW! On page 3 of this series is a shot showing some of the other coaches in the background. On the upper right side is what sure looks to be my coach. A Kingsley with 78 colors, two chrome air horns, Alcoas, dual air, small pod on roof.
How cool is that! It might not be mine but I'm claiming it. LOL!
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275314 is a reply to message #275245] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 17:42 |
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USAussie
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JR,
By George you're right and I know why I didn't "see" the spacers.
I remembered that Linwood Arthur had raised his GMC 2 inches by putting 2" x 2" box tube directly on top of the longitudinal frame
members and I was looking for the same thing on the Buskirk. See photo titled Fuel Tanks #4 in the link below:
http://www.gmcclassics.com/tech/larthur/index.html
It notes:
Here you can see the 2" frame spacers in place. This raises the body 2" higher than a normal GMC. Also, there will be a piece of
1/2" X 3" nylon on top of the spacer making the height a total of 2.5" extra. This allows for deeper fuel tanks and holding tanks.
Sorry Hal!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Wright
Rob,
All the Buskirk Stretch coaches were raised aprox 2" and you can see a 2 X 3 subframe spacer on Page 3, pictures 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 & 9
and on Page 4 pics 8 & 9 and on page 5 pictures 1, 3 & 4. None of our fuel lines and other stuff cannot be pinched. We all have
different types of Fuel induction systems and we do not have to raise the dog house to clear the air cleaners.
J.R. Wright
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275343 is a reply to message #275314] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 22:10 |
Hal StClair
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No big deal Rob, I missed it in the link also. I've raised mine 2.5" and wondered if moving the bumpers up was necessary. It would be a real pain with the through bumper hitch I built to move it up. I think I'll wait and see if I like it as is.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275403 is a reply to message #275400] |
Wed, 08 April 2015 11:14 |
Hal StClair
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I replaced it with Borgeson pieces. Upper Stainless steel u-joint with damper 15494, lower SS u-joint 115240, telescopic double d shaft 450024. Didn't need to buy the 24" shaft as I cut over a foot off of it to fit.
Nice and tidy installation.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275407 is a reply to message #275404] |
Wed, 08 April 2015 11:59 |
Hal StClair
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And adding a 48" by 33" by 16" roof pod adds 5.5 sq feet side and 3.7 feet frontal area too. I daresay that pod disrupts the airflow more than the slight raise in height. Putting more areo mirrors on probably has a greater effect on handling. JMHO
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275449 is a reply to message #275418] |
Wed, 08 April 2015 18:58 |
Ken Henderson
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Somewhere in the world is a (once) beautiful 23' with an interior A/C. We
had a Dixielander from NW AL who had a 23' for himself and a 26 for his
wife, both rebuilt completely by the mechanics at his trucking line
garage. The A/C was mostly in the rear bath's lavatory cabinet. Blackwell
was the name, IIRC, he died several years ago and she disposed of both
GMC's shortly afterward. I never found out who bought them.
Ken H.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:12 PM, A. wrote:
> Hal StClair wrote on Wed, 08 April 2015 11:59
>> And adding a 48" by 33" by 16" roof pod adds 5.5 sq feet side and 3.7
> feet frontal area too. I daresay that pod disrupts the airflow more than the
>> slight raise in height. Putting more areo mirrors on probably has a
> greater effect on handling. JMHO
>> Hal
> My Sequoia doesn't have a storage pod on the roof, but roof AC is about
> the same as a pod frontally and about half from the side.
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> I half looked at locating an AC under the couch behind the driver's seat
> to get rid of the one on the roof. Put the air inlet from a louver on the
> side and expel into the wheel well. Not just for drag but to allow it to
> get it through lower doors.
>
> I start out with a 23' without roof pod storage, then talk about stealing
> storage space under the couch for the AC. I would end up with one that only
> a single guy could use because it doesn't have enough storage for a CFO's
> stuff.
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC stretch question [message #275465 is a reply to message #275449] |
Wed, 08 April 2015 20:56 |
Dennis S
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There was/is also Jim Anstett who relocated the roof AC on his 23 to under the frig.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=63090&rid=904#msg_63090
As I recall Jim also has something like 500k miles on his coach.
Dennis
Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 08 April 2015 18:58Somewhere in the world is a (once) beautiful 23' with an interior A/C. We
had a Dixielander from NW AL who had a 23' for himself and a 26 for his
wife, both rebuilt completely by the mechanics at his trucking line
garage. The A/C was mostly in the rear bath's lavatory cabinet. Blackwell
was the name, IIRC, he died several years ago and she disposed of both
GMC's shortly afterward. I never found out who bought them.
Ken H.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:12 PM, A. wrote:
> Hal StClair wrote on Wed, 08 April 2015 11:59
>> And adding a 48" by 33" by 16" roof pod adds 5.5 sq feet side and 3.7
> feet frontal area too. I daresay that pod disrupts the airflow more than the
>> slight raise in height. Putting more areo mirrors on probably has a
> greater effect on handling. JMHO
>> Hal
> My Sequoia doesn't have a storage pod on the roof, but roof AC is about
> the same as a pod frontally and about half from the side.
>
> I half looked at locating an AC under the couch behind the driver's seat
> to get rid of the one on the roof. Put the air inlet from a louver on the
> side and expel into the wheel well. Not just for drag but to allow it to
> get it through lower doors.
>
> I start out with a 23' without roof pod storage, then talk about stealing
> storage space under the couch for the AC. I would end up with one that only
> a single guy could use because it doesn't have enough storage for a CFO's
> stuff.
> --
>
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