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Wed, 25 March 2015 21:35

Chr$

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Macerators are on sale at west marine for $99. Not sure how good they are...

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274377 is a reply to message #274357]

Thu, 26 March 2015 08:18

Sammy Williams

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Id imagine they would have to be a higher standard for marine so id imagine
the quality is there right Sammy Williams
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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274391 is a reply to message #274377]

Thu, 26 March 2015 12:28

Kingsley Coach

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Mine came from West Marine...only used it one season so far. Just still
out....
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On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Sammy Williams wrote:

> Id imagine they would have to be a higher standard for marine so id imagine
> the quality is there right Sammy Williams
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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274395 is a reply to message #274357]

Thu, 26 March 2015 13:00

emerystora

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Hi Do you have a link to that?
I checked their site and they only show a fresh water pump for 99.99.
Macerators are a lot higher.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Chris Choffat wrote:
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> Macerators are on sale at west marine for $99. Not sure how good they are...
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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274396 is a reply to message #274395]

Thu, 26 March 2015 13:11

James Hupy

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Try Defender Marine in Waterford, Ct. They frequently have pumps on sale.
Jim Hupy
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On Mar 26, 2015 11:01 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:

> Hi Do you have a link to that?
> I checked their site and they only show a fresh water pump for 99.99.
> Macerators are a lot higher.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Chris Choffat wrote:
>>
>> Macerators are on sale at west marine for $99. Not sure how good they
> are...
>>
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>> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
>> 2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274398 is a reply to message #274357]

Thu, 26 March 2015 15:28

Chr$

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Was on a flyer/mailer.

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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274402 is a reply to message #274398]

Thu, 26 March 2015 15:48

Loffen

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$ 56 inc shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEAFLO-Brand-Marine-and-RV-Macerator-Pump-12-Volts-/151611259988?hash=item234cbc3c54&vxp=mtr

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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274408 is a reply to message #274402]

Thu, 26 March 2015 18:33

Darryl

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Thanks Loffen - I just bought one. We'll see if it's as good a deal as it seems.

Darryl

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274410 is a reply to message #274357]

Thu, 26 March 2015 19:09

Len Novak

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Must have missed it

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www.bdub.net/novak/

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Subject: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators

Macerators are on sale at west marine for $99. Not sure how good they are...

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-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.

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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274413 is a reply to message #274408]

Thu, 26 March 2015 20:40

Loffen

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Please report back, I thought it was scary cheap, but who knows, for the price it should for sure be tested Smile

Darryl wrote on Fri, 27 March 2015 00:33

Thanks Loffen - I just bought one. We'll see if it's as good a deal as it seems.

Darryl

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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274453 is a reply to message #274413]

Fri, 27 March 2015 17:33

USAussie

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Loffen,

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that mascerator is the same as this one:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6005-macerator-innards.html

Except it is a newer model and has a four bladed chopper!

I just ordered two (2) of them for spares.

Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274455 is a reply to message #274453]

Fri, 27 March 2015 17:41

USAussie

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Loffen,

Oops!

I forgot this URL:

http://www.seaflo.com/en/productDetail_255.html

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Mueller

Loffen,

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that mascerator is the same as this one:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6005-macerator-innards.html

Except it is a newer model and has a four bladed chopper!

I just ordered two (2) of them for spares.
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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274457 is a reply to message #274357]

Fri, 27 March 2015 18:11

mild bill

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Made in Mexico!
Mexico is the new Japan!

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274466 is a reply to message #274457]

Fri, 27 March 2015 19:17

USAussie

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No way!

I'm trying to figger out how to say what I want to say without insulting Mexico and Mexicans and making a generalization but here
goes. If I do I apologize in advance.

There is no way that Mexico or Mexicans will ever achieve the design, engineering, and manufacturing level of Japan. The Japanese
are world leaders when it comes to that. They were helped to achieve that status by an American by the name of Dr. D.W. Deming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

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Made in Mexico!
Mexico is the new Japan!

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274469 is a reply to message #274466]

Fri, 27 March 2015 19:40

Loffen

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Not chineese ??? Shocked

Anyways, the "small" inlet will not be a problem ? I just wonder since I am full of it some times and it can be pretty nasty Rolling Eyes

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274471 is a reply to message #274469]

Fri, 27 March 2015 20:06

USAussie

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Espen,

Brilliant!

I reckon ALL of us are "full of it" from time to time and Double Trouble with this macerator has handled it without any problems
since I've owned it.

I do recommend buying two units in case you do something dumb without thinking; like dumping a couple wadded up paper towels in the
toilet!

Yes I did that! DOUH!

That required removing, disassembling, cleaning, reassembling, and reinstalling the macerator; a real PITA! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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From:Espen Heitmann

Not chineese ??? 8o

Anyways, the "small" inlet will not be a problem ? I just wonder since I am full of it some times and it can be pretty nasty :roll:

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274473 is a reply to message #274471]

Fri, 27 March 2015 21:02

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I have seen some of the $69 and $99 ones before and the ones that I have examined differ a bit from the Jabsco one (more expensive one).
There might not be a screwdriver slot in the exposed end of the motor shaft that is very useful in case of a clog.
They may not have the Viton (I believe that is what its made of) impeller that the Jabsco one has. If it is run dry too long then the impeller might start to spread.
The seals might not be as good.

I bought one once and had all of the problems above. The brush holder also overheated and distorted so the pump would not run. There was no replacement parts available.
So, I bought two Jabsco pumps and carry one as a spare. The first one has lasted very well and I haven’t had to install the spare yet.
Prior to that I had to crawl up under while at a campground and take the pump apart to get it to run well enough to get home. When I got home I threw it away.

Sometimes its better to pay $30 more to get the top of the line one. Especially considering the amount of s__tty work to repair or replace it. The old saying “you get what you pay for”.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
>
> Espen,
>
> Brilliant!
>
> I reckon ALL of us are "full of it" from time to time and Double Trouble with this macerator has handled it without any problems
> since I've owned it.
>
> I do recommend buying two units in case you do something dumb without thinking; like dumping a couple wadded up paper towels in the
> toilet!
>
> Yes I did that! DOUH!
>
> That required removing, disassembling, cleaning, reassembling, and reinstalling the macerator; a real PITA! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Espen Heitmann
>
> Not chineese ??? 8o
>
> Anyways, the "small" inlet will not be a problem ? I just wonder since I am full of it some times and it can be pretty nasty :roll:
>
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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274479 is a reply to message #274473]

Sat, 28 March 2015 00:17

USAussie

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Emery,

Thanks for posting the info below; obviously I was not aware of what you have noted.

I am back in Sydney and since the units I ordered included FOC shipping in the USA they will be going to John Sharpe in Humble,
Texas.

I will not be able to disassemble and compare them to the spare Jabsco unit I have there until I get back to the USA in September.

I suggest that anyone interested in one of the SeaFlo pumps do not just follow my lead and buy one; I would suggest you take what
Emery has noted into consideration and compare the information provided in the links below.

SeaFlo:

http://www.seaflo.com/en/productDetail_255.html

http://www.seaflo.com/upload/201404230907541014.pdf

http://www.seaflo.com/upload/201404181121269396.pdf

Jabsco:

http://www.pumpvendor.com/Jabsco_18590-2092.html

http://www.pumpvendor.com/media/jabsco/Jabsco_18590-20xx_series.pdf

http://www.pumpvendor.com/Jabsco_18590-2092_parts.html

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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Emery Stora

I have seen some of the $69 and $99 ones before and the ones that I have examined differ a bit from the Jabsco one (more expensive
one).
There might not be a screwdriver slot in the exposed end of the motor shaft that is very useful in case of a clog.
They may not have the Viton (I believe that is what its made of) impeller that the Jabsco one has. If it is run dry too long then
the impeller might start to spread.
The seals might not be as good.

I bought one once and had all of the problems above. The brush holder also overheated and distorted so the pump would not run.
There was no replacement parts available.
So, I bought two Jabsco pumps and carry one as a spare. The first one has lasted very well and I haven't had to install the spare
yet.
Prior to that I had to crawl up under while at a campground and take the pump apart to get it to run well enough to get home. When
I got home I threw it away.

Sometimes its better to pay $30 more to get the top of the line one. Especially considering the amount of s__tty work to repair or
replace it. The old saying "you get what you pay for".

Emery

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Re: [GMCnet] $99 Macerators [message #274483 is a reply to message #274466]

Sat, 28 March 2015 03:27

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excellent link to Deming. Why didn't they teach us about him in our
schools.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rob Mueller
wrote:

> No way!
>
> I'm trying to figger out how to say what I want to say without insulting
> Mexico and Mexicans and making a generalization but here
> goes. If I do I apologize in advance.
>
> There is no way that Mexico or Mexicans will ever achieve the design,
> engineering, and manufacturing level of Japan. The Japanese
> are world leaders when it comes to that. They were helped to achieve that
> status by an American by the name of Dr. D.W. Deming.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill
>
> Made in Mexico!
> Mexico is the new Japan!
>
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Re: $99 Macerators [message #274503 is a reply to message #274357]

Sat, 28 March 2015 13:06

Matt Colie

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Read the rest on your own.....

I will be installing a 56$ Seaflow in a clients boat. I will also be installing a diverter valve (3-way), because this is a GL boat and there is no place on the Great Lakes that untreated holding (black) tank can be discharged overboard. The system will be complete and tested with clean water and then locked as using such equipment is a felony in Canada.

Important:
Country of origin is not marked on the packaging or the pump itself. (I just checked.)
The pump has no provision to hand crank to clear it.
I am not sure it I would buy one of these for my own use over a Jabsco, Raritan or Johnson. While I know that parts may (will) not be available. The fractional price makes replacement an easy option. The rebuild kit for a Jabsco would cost more.

Passing note:
Ed Deming was an associate of my father during WWII in the Arsenal For Democracy. He tried real hard to sell statistical quality control as opposed to inspection here at home. He failed. After the war, he was stationed in Japan to help reconstruct their economy. (No jokes about Detroit - please) They grabbed up and ran with his SPC (statistical Process Control) ideas, and when they developed the technology, they stopped making junk.

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